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  • #1,421
  • Mar 1, 2019 12:04pm Mar 1, 2019 12:04pm
+$1140


what a crazy day. it's filled with missteps, good and bad trading all mixed into one

Before i break down the day, i'd like to share my trade tags

R,T,B,BT,G,F, observation, error, tilt.

R,T,B,BT,G,F are my different types of setups

observation is basically a trade that resulted in new idea or rule update/change for existing setups

error-error is execution error or misreading the setup

tilt-anything done that's outside of the existing setups

let's break it down

1. initial trade was a legit loss. It actually made me realize i shouldn't be shorting when price breaks yesterday high/low blindly. So i categorize it as observation

2. i jumped long the second trade cause i was excited to see that huge upside move. Then wehn it just stalled there, i bailed out. you can kind of categorize it as disciplined tilt since i was able to just close out the loss immediately

3. error- should've been a trend

4.error-this is actually per setup, but since i fucked up on the previous entry, this is considered late entry-managed to make some profit out of it

5.trend setup that occurred in eu session that i was somehow managed to spot. So i decided to play with. built up my positions and it basically did NOTHING but range all fucking session, got a bit out of it before US session starts

6. trend setup that would've worked if it wasn't for the damn ISM news..so this is legit loss

7. this is a legit fade setup, but it's one of those setups where if i'm not careful, i would be getting a bad avg price, which happened here. price was beyond yesterday's high and i was convinced somehow that level will hold, so i put bigger sizes around that level. Well it tanked all the way to the days' open before finally reversing back. this is one of the areas i definitely still working on.

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here's the journal stats. i'm listing just the trades for now. at end of month, i'll do the whole full stats (with win/loss %, avg win/loss etc) so the data would be more meaningful

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Anyway, another day, another dollar as they say.

moving on, with bit more experience.
  • #1,422
  • Mar 1, 2019 4:37pm Mar 1, 2019 4:37pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Just stopping by to reflect on your increasing maturity. Initially, you were a immature jerk (during your FX journey) lots of crap talk, showoffs, behavioural issues, putting pictures of women in airplane etc etc.... then you took a step towards being a "grownup", then taking care of family, going on vacation and letting them bear the fruits of your hard work. You transformed into a man you wish to become.... followed with buying a house, a huge step towards taking ownership and responsibility. And home ownership is bringing responsibility...
Vee, nice pep talk. you have touched one of my nerves. when I managed to pay my mortgage i got very happy and moved to full time trading. i was happy for a moment. guess what happen next?
  • #1,423
  • Edited 7:35pm Mar 1, 2019 5:56pm | Edited 7:35pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Just stopping by to reflect on your increasing maturity. Initially, you were a immature jerk (during your FX journey) lots of crap talk, showoffs, behavioural issues, putting pictures of women in airplane etc etc.... then you took a step towards being a "grownup", then taking care of family, going on vacation and letting them bear the fruits of your hard work. You transformed into a man you wish to become.... followed with buying a house, a huge step towards taking ownership and responsibility. And home ownership is bringing responsibility...
i don't think i've changed at all. i still gamble, still play video games every chance i get, and from time to time, will show off purchases i make with my PnL and donate some of them as i see fit. why? cause my intention from the beginning with this thread (read the 1st page) was to break away from the typical boring shit you see on this forum. Trading systems after trading systems, the scams, and the boring day in day out prediction and analysis.

i've been on this forum for +10 years, i've seen the same shit being recycled over and over. I try to bring some new perspective in trading journals.

Am i a good person? bad person? looking to mature? respectfully, it's none of your damn business.

I'm not here to make friends, seek gurus, or help people or be helped. I'm here for myself and make money in the markets.

Next week..i'll continue to "trade to take your money away..."

I guess Pac said it best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY1KXf0hlkQ
  • #1,424
  • Mar 2, 2019 12:12am Mar 2, 2019 12:12am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} "I guess Pac said it best".... and he end up in jail and shot dead. I am sure folks still worship him for his crimes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur) Perhaps re-read - it was a sincere compliment, observation and acknowledgement on your personal growth that anyone rarely gets from me (knowing my history of rap sheet at the factory lol). I ain't here to make friends either and handful of those who really are have a way to contact me outside this forum :-) I will delete.... last post in your thread. Your arrogance has...
it's called reading between the lines vee

your post starts out with personal attack on me with your opinion of myself from my prior posts during my fx days as "show off", crap talk, immature jerk, criticizing my hobbies etc.

You're basing your opinion on my personal life based on this thread?lol because you proceeded to state that i'm taking steps forward to learning on how to be a better man, to be mature, to become a family man and how to care for my family. As if stating I was a dead beat before this. That was completely unnecessary, because it came off like you're giving me your "approval" standing on the pedestal of "high moral standards". you know nothing about me and who i am as a person, so not sure where all this coming from.

How bout you keep your opinions about personal character to yourself and just stick to trading..then we'd be ok
  • #1,425
  • Mar 2, 2019 11:44am Mar 2, 2019 11:44am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Fair enough. As I always say to all thread owners, you won't hurt my feelings if you block me based on what I write. Every word I wrote is related and reflective of your trading personality and online persona portrayed by you during FX and now based on my observations from this thread which is also a trading+lifestyle. Folks will assess who you are based on what you share online about your personal life. Besides, who the f*ck am I to judge a complete stranger on a anonymous public forum. I have no idea who you are or what you do in your...
Look its great that you have your standards that you live up to. More power to you. Nothing wrong to let people know what you believe in. But I think its wrong when you take your belief system and judge others in it, especially on a TRADING forum.

For me, I like to keep most of my private stuff out of the discussion. That's why I got a bit offended when you start mentioning my family and my "journey to be a man". That's why you rarely see my family on videos or pics, nor do I talk about them on here much (aside from the wife when she annoy me sometimes lol). I do talk a bit about feeding the hungry cause that is rooted deep in my belief system. Besides that I keep it strictly materialistic and just on me ( cause I'm a .Narcissist )

I'm just like you, I have no social media footprint online except for YouTube where I share my trading, workout and gaming interests.

My philosophy is, don't worry about what people do online. If they're being show offs, looking for attention, doing "vices" online..let it be. If they break forum rules, then attack them, but if not, just enjoy it as entertainment.

Youre welcome to post here cause I do value your trading input. Have a good weekend.. I'm gonna play FIFA now..:-)
  • #1,426
  • Mar 2, 2019 2:51pm Mar 2, 2019 2:51pm
Quoting VEEFX
and since you are into charity and helping others, I learnt last night about Kiva and jumped right in to help out without much reading but seemed like a good way to make a difference. Check it out if you want. {image}
The only charity i get involve with 95% of the time is just food pantry stuff. And i also stay away from "reaching out" to people internationally. My philosophy on giving is start with your family then your neighbors, then your local community. anything beyond that is out of your control where the money goes to be honest..

ps i'll delete the prior posts if alpha does the same
  • #1,427
  • Mar 2, 2019 4:45pm Mar 2, 2019 4:45pm
Quoting hilmy83
tilt-anything done that's outside of the existing setups
Tilt: See picture
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  • #1,428
  • Mar 3, 2019 3:00pm Mar 3, 2019 3:00pm
I thought I'd share my long term goals on the first page. At some point in time, I hope to give this thread a dignified end. Once the goals are met, I'd be closing this thread and be less active on forums
  • #1,429
  • Mar 3, 2019 6:26pm Mar 3, 2019 6:26pm
When you're on travel and sick, these are life savers

#onlymatural

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  • #1,430
  • Mar 3, 2019 9:19pm Mar 3, 2019 9:19pm
Quoting hilmy83
{quote} Look its great that you have your standards that you live up to. More power to you. Nothing wrong to let people know what you believe in. But I think its wrong when you take your belief system and judge others in it, especially on a TRADING forum. For me, I like to keep most of my private stuff out of the discussion. That's why I got a bit offended when you start mentioning my family and my "journey to be a man". That's why you rarely see my family on videos or pics, nor do I talk about them on here much (aside from the wife when she annoy...
Your thread is a refreshing, transparent change to the usual on FF. I am one of the many silent followers here. I have never felt that you were boasting or in any way stroking your ego. You have admirably accomplished what you set out to do. Your style is aggressive which can be said of many pro traders. I get the feeling that VEE will be forever searching for the holy grail, without meaningful trading. And what's with his deleting posts? Is that a sign of insecurity?
Please keep up posting until you have reached your ideal trading capital.
  • #1,431
  • Mar 3, 2019 11:44pm Mar 3, 2019 11:44pm
Quoting profitkeeper
{quote} Your thread is a refreshing, transparent change to the usual on FF. I am one of the many silent followers here. I have never felt that you were boasting or in any way stroking your ego. You have admirably accomplished what you set out to do. Your style is aggressive which can be said of many pro traders. I get the feeling that VEE will be forever searching for the holy grail, without meaningful trading. And what's with his deleting posts? Is that a sign of insecurity? Please keep up posting until you have reached your ideal trading capital....
I have written a 100 posts about why I delete my posts and repeatedly tell everyone to put me on ignore if you don't like what I write or delete.

I recall our last interaction...what are you up to since you entered the NQ arena around the same time I did? Keeping with the theme of your profile name... a) How much profits you made on NQ b) how much you have kept it thus far? Let's hear it bro

EDIT: And now you know why I delete my post... as this post will also disappear within 24 hours. (sorry hilmy)
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Staying in my lane...
  • #1,432
  • Mar 4, 2019 12:04am Mar 4, 2019 12:04am
Quoting profitkeeper
{quote} Your thread is a refreshing, transparent change to the usual on FF. I am one of the many silent followers here. I have never felt that you were boasting or in any way stroking your ego. You have admirably accomplished what you set out to do. Your style is aggressive which can be said of many pro traders. I get the feeling that VEE will be forever searching for the holy grail, without meaningful trading. And what's with his deleting posts? Is that a sign of insecurity? Please keep up posting until you have reached your ideal trading capital....
hilmy is definitely a gladiator. However, quant minded types need to see patterns in the data. Numbers do not lie. The lack of the need to see quantifiable proof is why there is a flat earth society in 2019. It is why engineers struggle with trading at times. It has been said in fact that engineering is the worst profession to come from going into trading. I know this personally because I work in a data driven industry. This means I am sensitive to black swans. Anyone who deploys a scientific method to this business will take longer to pull the trigger. While I do trade live, I trade a size where I might get my electric bill paid during the winter. The reason is that I can not quantify what I trade. So, I refuse to be Fooled by Randomness. Living in a world where a sub standard temperature can cause an O-ring to fail which leads to the death of seven people, it becomes hard not to want to quantify data.

Does that make sense to you?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,433
  • Mar 4, 2019 12:28am Mar 4, 2019 12:28am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} hilmy is definitely a gladiator. However, quant minded types need to see patterns in the data. Numbers do not lie. The lack of the need to see quantifiable proof is why there is a flat earth society in 2019. It is why engineers struggle with trading at times. It has been said in fact that engineering is the worst profession to come from going into trading. I know this personally because I work in a data driven industry. This means I am sensitive to black swans. Anyone who deploys a scientific method to this business will take longer to pull...
Plus engineers income-ability is 10 times more than the average crowd here... why rush it without knowing what the outcome is first in sim. you collect trading stats first and foremost and then tackle the market with all you got (still no guarantee you would succeed but atleast I would know precisely why?) There is a specific reason why I traded one full session live in October and then another full session live in November and then spent the entire december running my curve-fitting algo to fully understand why opportunity exists with NQ and then January till date in designing my algo. It could be a completely flawed approach and I may go bust on day one but atleast I have given myself the best chance of succeeding based on data and a rigorous methodology to back it up.

To add further, after any major project at work comes to an end, we all huddle in a room for hours to discuss "LESSONS LEARNT" during which anyone and everyone is free to throw darts at anyone... by design, even a college intern can throw a dart at senior executive and he will get kudos at the end of such session. Same concept during annual performance cycles where every team member is forced to submit anonymous peer and manager feedback. That is how everyone improves and perform at their optimum capacity and remain productive. That is exactly what I have done with trading... being a self-critic (some of the thought processes I shared in my thread which came out as mental). I now have close to 80+ documented things from my FX journey that I should NOT be doing in Futures. I am ONLY following my own guiding principle.... regardless of where my journey takes or what the outcome results in. This is MY PRE-TRADING PLAN which is crucial towards making my final Trading Plan. Not too hard to understand imo but we come here from a variety of backgrounds. To each his own I guess :-

EDIT: And just to say it openly, even though I have tremendous respect for what Harold is doing. one of my pre-trading plan dictates me not to follow anyone or someone else's trading strategy. If everything fails, only then I will revisit although I am thinking some elements of it almost everyday.
Staying in my lane...
  • #1,434
  • Mar 4, 2019 9:13am Mar 4, 2019 9:13am
Quoting hilmy83
+$1140 what a crazy day. it's filled with missteps, good and bad trading all mixed into one Before i break down the day, i'd like to share my trade tags R,T,B,BT,G,F, observation, error, tilt. R,T,B,BT,G,F are my different types of setups observation is basically a trade that resulted in new idea or rule update/change for existing setups error-error is execution error or misreading the setup tilt-anything done that's outside of the existing setups let's break it down 1. initial trade was a legit loss. It actually made me realize i shouldn't be shorting...
+$510

loading up too quickly early in asian session got me into trouble. It's hard not to, when i saw that price was off yesterday's high thinking we might get an easy follow up in asia. and the range is shit going into US. so i'm done.

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  • #1,435
  • Mar 4, 2019 9:24am Mar 4, 2019 9:24am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} hilmy is definitely a gladiator. However, quant minded types need to see patterns in the data. Numbers do not lie. The lack of the need to see quantifiable proof is why there is a flat earth society in 2019. It is why engineers struggle with trading at times. It has been said in fact that engineering is the worst profession to come from going into trading. I know this personally because I work in a data driven industry. This means I am sensitive to black swans. Anyone who deploys a scientific method to this business will take longer to pull...
i'm an engineer by the way
  • #1,436
  • Mar 4, 2019 11:12am Mar 4, 2019 11:12am
Quoting hilmy83
{quote} +$510 loading up too quickly early in asian session got me into trouble. It's hard not to, when i saw that price was off yesterday's high thinking we might get an easy follow up in asia. and the range is shit going into US. so i'm done. {image}
is the time in GMT?
  • #1,437
  • Mar 4, 2019 12:24pm Mar 4, 2019 12:24pm
Quoting hilmy83
{quote} i'm an engineer by the way
Good to know.... what kind/field if I may ask?
Staying in my lane...
  • #1,438
  • Mar 4, 2019 12:39pm Mar 4, 2019 12:39pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Good to know.... what kind/field if I may ask?
aviation/defense..

used to be in medical device.

went to school for biomedical engineering.
  • #1,439
  • Mar 4, 2019 12:43pm Mar 4, 2019 12:43pm
Quoting hilmy83
{quote} aviation/defense.. used to be in medical device. went to school for biomedical engineering.
WTF dude... you are WAYYYYYYY intelligent than me and most of us out here !!!
Staying in my lane...
  • #1,440
  • Mar 4, 2019 1:12pm Mar 4, 2019 1:12pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} WTF dude... you are WAYYYYYYY intelligent than me and most of us out here !!!
i actually struggled in college, just made it barely enough to graduate. Partly due to i was a damn meathead in college and only cared about working out and impressing the ladies...than spending time in the dorm room like my korean roomate doing homework haha

but honestly i'm just average. i think my edge is in my power of observation for patterns..
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