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  • #21
  • Oct 16, 2006 12:23am Oct 16, 2006 12:23am
Settings for AUD/USD, Version A

TimePeriod = 15
S/L = 50
POINT ADJUST = 0.0
T/S = 50

Results from 2/15/06 to present

$10000 = $1,144,266 on 441 trades

win ratio = 97.05% with draw down = 4.06%
  • #22
  • Oct 16, 2006 1:05am Oct 16, 2006 1:05am
how do you install the data into metatrader?
  • #23
  • Oct 16, 2006 1:23am Oct 16, 2006 1:23am
Quoting dazed101
how do you install the data into metatrader?
Import the files in the "History Center" under Tools...
  • #24
  • Oct 16, 2006 7:53am Oct 16, 2006 7:53am
Quoting GirlFlyer
Make sure you have all your price history back that far on both the 1 minute charts and the 15 or 30 minute depending on what you have TimePeriod set to. If not, it won't trade during the portions you are missing history.

GirlFlyer
despite history back Feb, i'm testing recent 2 month's data.

showing enormous loss...

nothing like what u shown us .. millions ???

can u post the complete parameters of your EA ?

and

if i like to load it up to my live mini account,

what are the settings that i have to change ?
  • #25
  • Oct 16, 2006 8:24am Oct 16, 2006 8:24am
Quoting chad
despite history back Feb, i'm testing recent 2 month's data.

showing enormous loss...

nothing like what u shown us .. millions ???

can u post the complete parameters of your EA ?

and

if i like to load it up to my live mini account,

what are the settings that i have to change ?
Chad,

It's easier if you tell me what your parameters are including your settings on Strategy Tester. From that I can tell you what you need to correct.

GirlFlyer
  • #26
  • Oct 16, 2006 9:22am Oct 16, 2006 9:22am
Quoting GirlFlyer
Chad,

It's easier if you tell me what your parameters are including your settings on Strategy Tester. From that I can tell you what you need to correct.

GirlFlyer

LotPercentage=8.00000000
MinVal=5000.00000000
StopLossVal=60
TimePeriod=15
PointAdjust=0.00010000
TrailingStopLevel=50
BrokerMinLotSize=0.10000000
FixedLots=0
MyLotSize=1.00000000
LotValue=0
MarginVal=100

on gbpusd M1

CHEERS

Chad
  • #27
  • Oct 16, 2006 10:14am Oct 16, 2006 10:14am
Quoting chad
LotPercentage=8.00000000
MinVal=5000.00000000
StopLossVal=60
TimePeriod=15
PointAdjust=0.00010000
TrailingStopLevel=50
BrokerMinLotSize=0.10000000
FixedLots=0
MyLotSize=1.00000000
LotValue=0
MarginVal=100

on gbpusd M1

CHEERS

Chad
Chad,

I don't see any problems with your settings. I ran GBP/USD for 08/01/06 thru present with the same values and showed a 54,000 profit.

Typically when I see somebody unable to duplicate the results it is usually something to do with the data set or the strategy tester settings. It has to be run on the M1 setting. No other setting will work properly.

If you are unable to resolve it, please send me via PM a copy of the strategy tester report. I would be interested to see what is going on.

GirlFlyer
  • #28
  • Oct 16, 2006 10:40am Oct 16, 2006 10:40am
Hi Marci,

In version B the sma 10 is that a simple or smoothed ma ?? Thanks for all the great work...Valerie...
  • #29
  • Oct 16, 2006 11:44am Oct 16, 2006 11:44am
  •  jdl
  • | Joined Oct 2006 | Status: going to master this or die trying | 101 Posts
Quoting GirlFlyer
Chad,

Typically when I see somebody unable to duplicate the results it is usually something to do with the data set or the strategy tester settings. It has to be run on the M1 setting. No other setting will work properly.

GirlFlyer

GirlFlyer,
When you say run the M1 setting, you really mean the "Model every tick" setting right? Because there is a Period setting as well.

I assume the Period setting should be set to the Time Frame value in your table of results, for example, M15 time frame, correct?
Thanks,
jdl
  • #30
  • Oct 16, 2006 12:23pm Oct 16, 2006 12:23pm
Quoting jdl
GirlFlyer,
When you say run the M1 setting, you really mean the "Model every tick" setting right? Because there is a Period setting as well.

I assume the Period setting should be set to the Time Frame value in your table of results, for example, M15 time frame, correct?
Thanks,
jdl
JDL and everybody,

I don't want this to sound bad, but I cannot help but to get a little bit ticked off. I've been doing a lot of hard work and research in putting this EA together and felt like I would like to share it with people to give them an opportunity to benefit as well. However, when I repeat things over and over over and over.... and have it fully documented, it becomes apparent people are not taking the time to sit down, read, and do their own research. I do not know how many times I have to tell everyone that Flyer! can only be back tested using the M1 setting in Strategy Tester. This means what it means... you DON'T test it on the M5, or M15, or M30, H1, H4, D1, W1, etc... etc. etc... This is the last time I am going to explain this on the threads as I am getting tired of repeating myself and tired of people not doing their own research to understand. If anybody else asks me this from now on, I am referring them to this post.

The design of the EA is such that it relies on precision entry/exit points to be profitable. This can only be achieved on the back tests using the M1 setting because that is as close to the Tick By Tick execution that live trading gives you. Strategy tester on any other setting than M1 and "Every Tick", no matter how good your database is, will approximate the bid/ask prices during the intervals giving false price action. Thereby, creating non realistic trading conditions. That is why the EA fails to operate on those higher time frames during back testing. However, during live trading, the story is different. During live trading, each tick of data that comes in over the live feed causes the EA to execute no matter what Chart Time Frame it is attached to. This is why during live trading you can run Flyer! on any Chart you wish, because it does all of its calculations internally independent of the Chart Time according to the "TimePeriod" you have set.

Ok, I've ranted enough now. Please people, I love helping out and offering my knowledge and research, but take the time to do your own research in addition to that of others. You'll understand everything much better and maybe learn something.

GirlFlyer
  • #31
  • Edited 12:31pm Oct 16, 2006 12:29pm | Edited 12:31pm
Thnks to GirlFlyer for this tremendous result that generated from Flyer!-100B.. this is really outstanding performance for my history of trade that had return my loss of -$476 to current profit of $1371 within less than 24 hour of trading...Thnks again..

closed trade :

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...ld2u/Snap2.jpg

open trade :

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...ld2u/Snap3.jpg
  • #32
  • Oct 16, 2006 2:30pm Oct 16, 2006 2:30pm
Quoting amaruenterprise
Hi Marci,

In version B the sma 10 is that a simple or smoothed ma ?? Thanks for all the great work...Valerie...
Valerie,

That's the Simple Moving Average...

Marci
  • #33
  • Oct 16, 2006 3:17pm Oct 16, 2006 3:17pm
Good for you - it must be incredibly frustrating to put forth the effort you obviously have invested in this EA and then have the identical questions asked over and over (not to mention the "how do I put an EA on my chart" questions).

Show a bit of courtesy and appreciation, good people and RTFM!
Old Benjamin was right
  • #34
  • Oct 16, 2006 3:29pm Oct 16, 2006 3:29pm
Hi Marci and gang, i have a question for the group on two trades that took place this morning at 18:00MT4 time on the IBFX demo feed. Below is a screen shot of two trades that were taken by the B version that i'm a bit confused about. On the chart are the appropriate MAs, from 5(linear)wma in green, 8(linear)wma in yellow, 10sma in red and the EMA tunnel in the blues. As you can see trades were entered without the appropriate Green/Yellow (5/8mas) moving through the tunnel. If you look at the price, price did in fact go beyond the tunnel in the direction of the trades taken, but this is not what was supposed to happen, correct? I've double checked the visually placed MAs and they are correct as i understand the model/EA from the original version B document. The only issue might be that MT4 does lable the only MA with "weighted" as a "linear weighted". Other than that all should be well.

Any thoughts assistance is appreciated. I like the idea of multiple MA-EAs and this one shows promise.

Cheers,
Thom

PS, Marci: as to your post #30? You go girl. You've done a great job keeping a level head, don't let a few spoil your fun. Hang in there : )

http://www.accrete.com/fx-posts/tgle...2006-10-13.png
  • #35
  • Oct 16, 2006 3:45pm Oct 16, 2006 3:45pm
  •  jdl
  • | Joined Oct 2006 | Status: going to master this or die trying | 101 Posts
Quoting Lou G
Good for you - it must be incredibly frustrating to put forth the effort you obviously have invested in this EA and then have the identical questions asked over and over (not to mention the "how do I put an EA on my chart" questions).

Show a bit of courtesy and appreciation, good people and RTFM!

Lou and GirlFlyer,
I apologize for my dumb question. I am simply trying to recreate this EAs great results as a way to learn the Strategy Tester. I have already read all 250+ messages in this and the earlier thread.

Even after importing the historical data and running EUR/USD on M1 and every tick, I get results far different than those postedin the Word doc.

I know it must be something in my settings, I'm just trying to pinpoint what that is. It sounds from other postings that I'm not the only one who has had trouble with this.

Here is some output from the report testing 1.05 Version A:
<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="820"> <tbody><tr align="left"><td colspan="2">Symbol</td><td colspan="4">EURUSDm (Euro vs US Dollar)</td></tr> <tr align="left"><td colspan="2">Period</td><td colspan="4">1 Minute (M1) 2006.02.01 00:00 - 2006.10.13 00:00 (2006.02.01 - 2006.10.13)</td></tr> <tr align="left"><td colspan="2">Model</td><td colspan="4">Every tick (based on all available least timeframes with fractal interpolation of every tick)</td></tr> <tr align="left"><td colspan="2">Parameters</td><td colspan="4">LotPercentage=8; MinVal=5000; StopLossVal=75; TimePeriod=15; PointAdjust=0.0001; TrailingStopLevel=65; BrokerMinLotSize=0.1; FixedLots=0; MyLotSize=1; LotValue=0; MarginVal=100; </td></tr> <tr align="left"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr><tr align="left"><td>Bars in test</td><td align="right">749738</td><td>Ticks modelled</td><td align="right">1459237</td><td>Modelling quality</td><td align="right">25.00%</td></tr> <tr height="8"><td colspan="6">
</td></tr> <tr align="left"><td>Initial deposit</td><td align="right">10000.00</td><td>
</td><td align="right">
</td><td>
</td><td align="right">
</td></tr> <tr align="left"><td>Total net profit</td><td align="right">1514.96</td><td>Gross profit</td><td align="right">1642.46</td><td>Gross loss</td><td align="right">-127.50</td></tr> <tr align="left"><td>Profit factor</td><td align="right">12.88</td><td>Expected payoff</td><td align="right">17.62</td><td>
</td><td align="right">
</td></tr> <tr align="left"><td>Absolute drawdown</td><td align="right">60.00</td><td>Maximal drawdown</td><td align="right">67.50 (0.60%)</td><td>Relative drawdown</td><td align="right">0.60% (60.00)</td></tr> <tr height="8"><td colspan="6">
</td></tr> <tr align="left"><td>Total trades</td><td align="right">86</td><td>
</td><td align="right">
</td><td>
</td><td align="right">
</td></tr></tbody> </table>

Again, my apologies.
jdl
  • #36
  • Oct 16, 2006 4:04pm Oct 16, 2006 4:04pm
Quoting jdl
Lou and GirlFlyer,
I know it must be something in my settings, I'm just trying to pinpoint what that is. It sounds from other postings that I'm not the only one who has had trouble with this.

jdl
JDL,

Judging from the output of your strategy tester, it doesn't look like you have the full range of history in your computer. Go in to both your 1 minute chart and your 15 minute chart on your screen and make sure you can manually scroll the screen back to the beginning of the time frame tested. Chances are you cannot on one or both of your charts. If you cannot, you must import the history for these charts into MT4 in order to complete it before you can duplicate the results.

BTW, MT4 is very picky about its history files. You may have to delete the current ones, import your data, and then restart MT4 in order to get it to work right.

Also, I'm sorry I had to vent earlier. I don't mind questions, I just don't like repeating myself. But thanks for trying everything out.

Marci (GirlFlyer)
  • #37
  • Oct 16, 2006 4:14pm Oct 16, 2006 4:14pm
Quoting accrete
Hi Marci and gang, i have a question for the group on two trades that took place this morning at 18:00MT4 time on the IBFX demo feed. Below is a screen shot of two trades that were taken by the B version that i'm a bit confused about. On the chart are the appropriate MAs, from 5(linear)wma in green, 8(linear)wma in yellow, 10sma in red and the EMA tunnel in the blues. As you can see trades were entered without the appropriate Green/Yellow (5/8mas) moving through the tunnel. If you look at the price, price did in fact go beyond the tunnel in the direction of the trades taken, but this is not what was supposed to happen, correct? I've double checked the visually placed MAs and they are correct as i understand the model/EA from the original version B document. The only issue might be that MT4 does lable the only MA with "weighted" as a "linear weighted". Other than that all should be well.

Any thoughts assistance is appreciated. I like the idea of multiple MA-EAs and this one shows promise.

Cheers,
Thom

PS, Marci: as to your post #30? You go girl. You've done a great job keeping a level head, don't let a few spoil your fun. Hang in there : )

http://www.accrete.com/fx-posts/tgle...2006-10-13.png
Accrete,

Just curious what you have your point adjust setting at? Each of the trades look like they occured right after a point in which the WMA's got close to crossing the tunnel. In first looking at it, it makes me think the Point Adjust setting might be inadvertently set to 0.01 instead of 0.0001 or thereabouts. If that happened, it could very easily do this. Beyond that, without further research, I'm not sure what could be the answer. MT4's Linear Weighted MA is the right one. I just use WMA in my documentation.

If you have the correct Point Adjust, please write me with your settings then and I will look at it.

GirlFlyer
  • #38
  • Oct 16, 2006 4:20pm Oct 16, 2006 4:20pm
Quoting consumer
Thnks to GirlFlyer for this tremendous result that generated from Flyer!-100B.. this is really outstanding performance for my history of trade that had return my loss of -$476 to current profit of $1371 within less than 24 hour of trading...Thnks again..

closed trade :

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...ld2u/Snap2.jpg

open trade :

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...ld2u/Snap3.jpg
Thanks for sharing, Glad it is working out for you!
  • #39
  • Oct 16, 2006 4:30pm Oct 16, 2006 4:30pm
Quoting GirlFlyer
Accrete,

Just curious what you have your point adjust setting at? Each of the trades look like they occured right after a point in which the WMA's got close to crossing the tunnel. In first looking at it, it makes me think the Point Adjust setting might be inadvertently set to 0.01 instead of 0.0001 or thereabouts. If that happened, it could very easily do this. Beyond that, without further research, I'm not sure what could be the answer. MT4's Linear Weighted MA is the right one. I just use WMA in my documentation.

If you have the correct Point Adjust, please write me with your settings then and I will look at it.

GirlFlyer
Accrete,

I looked at these examples a little closer. I think I may know what happened. If your Point Adjust is set to -0.0002 (or less), that would cause it to trade at that point. The MA's in this case are so close together (only 3 pip spread diff), that with the point adjust at that level, it would cause the EA to trade.

Its an obvious false signal that unfortunately got caught.

Marci
  • #40
  • Oct 16, 2006 4:58pm Oct 16, 2006 4:58pm
Hi Marci,

When backtesting what time frame do you use? Noooooooo! Just JOKING!

Just want to say having the entry and exit points joined by a dotted line is a nice touch. Haven't seen that anywhere else. It is so quick and easy to review the action.

Thank you so much for everything!

Kind Regards,

Grahame.

Oh, I almost forgot, my DEMO account (Real Time) is increasing! (He He)
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