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  • #301
  • Feb 3, 2019 3:59am Feb 3, 2019 3:59am
i wish ppl were like google
what booyah mean google ? and booyah you got the answer in less than a second with just a simple line of words i don't need history for a simple need, a simple question ! when i need history i look for it

google is an evolution, ofc because of ppl sharing
from thousands, millions, trillions of books, research, thoughts, reviews, opinions etc.. you go straight to the point in no time

i wish ppl were like google because i am like that

go straight to the point, share something useful save the humanity a lot of time and make them go to the next level at least in their generation
or don't share at all to give us the opportunity to start from 0 and save us time reading bs and working on it

a lot of bullshit on the net make me crazy

but to be honest, the world i like to live in, wont be good except in theory, on practice the world should be exactly like this, god is perfect
cheers
  • #302
  • Feb 3, 2019 4:59am Feb 3, 2019 4:59am
Just ask Google how to trade forex......

Answer: Buy the lows sell the Highs... simple as that really...

do some work man and don't expect things on a plate...

Thanks Ant
Stop killing our Oceans, Stop using single use plastics.
  • #303
  • Feb 3, 2019 5:11am Feb 3, 2019 5:11am
Quoting George AUS
A little introduction ,,,, My THOUGHTS ,,,, BELIEFS about this game ,,,,,, They are based on MY personal knowledge and experience , and with NO doubt in my mind ,,,, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = The market does NOT do a SUNDAY AFTERNOON STROLL in the park ,,,,, It is EXTREMELY HIGHLY organised business to the HIGHEST ORDER ,,,,, It is 100% MANIPULATED ,,, which is a BLESSING ! ! ! ! = The market is GOVERNED by ONE POWER ONLY ,,,,,, not a collective group,, as it is too precise...

Hi George,

In this Post you say "The market is GOVERNED by ONE POWER ONLY ,,,,,, not a collective group,,"

So, if this is the case "we" the Retail Traders are providing the Liquidity for the "One Power" to place their Orders into the Market?

I don't know how much Liquidity Retail Traders provide, for the Forex Market, but I would be very surprised if it's enough for a Major Institution to get it's Orders Filled without Price Falling through the Book.

From my understanding Big Institutions are Selling into a Rising Market and Buying into a Falling Market so they get their Orders Filled at the Best Prices.

If "they" placed an Order for 100 million, in one go, you can imagine what would happen.

I'm asking a genuine question and would like to get your take on it.

Thanks

Steve
  • #304
  • Feb 3, 2019 5:20am Feb 3, 2019 5:20am
Quoting jakdan
Just ask Google how to trade forex...... Answer: Buy the lows sell the Highs... simple as that really... do some work man and don't expect things on a plate... Thanks Ant
sure
that's why i said god is perfect and my imaginary smart & easy world wont be good in real life
because if we have the plate then eat it in a couple of minutes sometimes that will be all, what next ?

so variety is god perfection if you can understand with just a few words my thought

cheers Ant
  • #305
  • Feb 3, 2019 5:23am Feb 3, 2019 5:23am
Quoting jakdan
Just ask Google how to trade forex...... Answer: Buy the lows sell the Highs... simple as that really... do some work man and don't expect things on a plate... Thanks Ant

That would be nice ,,, would it NOT ????

Cheers,
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #306
  • Feb 3, 2019 5:38am Feb 3, 2019 5:38am
Quoting skyway
{quote} The true god allows for imperfections to thrive. I just learnt that recently.
going through deep logic, philosophy, complicated things etc... most people fail, i learn that from forever
  • #307
  • Feb 3, 2019 5:42am Feb 3, 2019 5:42am
Quoting George AUS
{quote} That would be nice ,,, would it NOT ???? Cheers, George
don't you love that smartphone georgi ? didn't you like it because it goes straight to your need easily ?
di you work hard to get it georgi ? or you just buy it like a like we buy currencies and stocks in a single click ?

so if almost everything is coming to you on a plate why you think its not your torn to give back on a plate, for the sake of anything you want

peace army
  • #308
  • Feb 3, 2019 5:50am Feb 3, 2019 5:50am
georgi just one more time and ill leave ur army

don think that because noone tell you that u are wrong it mean that u are right
don't make me laugh publicly on ur lines, like the one governed power or reading between lines "cia" or 95% win rate "atm machine" etc... im not a books reader i just read titles, but if i read this book in here "you call it thread" i m sure ill laugh for weeks

thats enough for me cya

always cheers
  • #309
  • Edited 6:30am Feb 3, 2019 6:17am | Edited 6:30am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi George, In this Post you say "The market is GOVERNED by ONE POWER ONLY ,,,,,, not a collective group,," So, if this is the case "we" the Retail Traders are providing the Liquidity for the "One Power" to place their Orders into the Market? I don't know how much Liquidity Retail Traders provide, for the Forex Market, but I would be very surprised if it's enough for a Major Institution to get it's Orders Filled without Price Falling through the Book. From my understanding Big Institutions are Selling into a Rising Market and Buying into...


Hello Steve ,,,,

Firstly ,,,
I have never said anything about US ,, the retail traders being the TARGET ( LIQUIDITY for the market ) ,,,,,as i TOTALLY agree ,,,, Retail traders COLLECTIVELY make up a very small percentage of the market ,,,,
AND ,,,
When i talk about THE HERD MENTALITY ( which i am assuming why u brought up the question about the RETAIL TRADERS ) ,, i am NOT speaking from a LIQUIDITY aspect ,, BUT rather from a MANIPULATION aspect of fooling them ,,, AS CREAM ON THE CAKE ,,,

BUT ,,,
As for the Big institutions and the liquidity subject ,,,, it is something i do NOT wish to go into right now ,,, BECAUSE ,,,
It is a subject i would like to EXPLAIN MY VIEW on ,,,, in FULL detail for the benefit of all ,,, in due course .

In the meantime ,,,, i would like to bring your attention ,,,, to a very IMPORTANT point that you have stated as being the BASIS of your understanding ,, which was ( quote : From my understanding Big Institutions are Selling into a Rising Market and Buying into a Falling Market so they get their Orders Filled at the Best Prices ) ,,,

Now here is the the ONE THOUGHT / LINK , that I TRULY BELIEVE is MISSING in the way traders VIEW PRICE REALITY ( as opposed to MY PERSONAL VIEW ) ,,,, that makes everything i DO and BELIEVE IN ,,, CONTROVERSIAL to the MAJORITY of the TRADING community ,,
And that is ,,,,,

THE INSTITUTIONS BUY AND SELL INTO FALLING / RISING MARKETS ,,,, SO ,,,,,
IF ,,,, this is the case ,,,,,

WHO IS RISING THE MARKET ,,,,
WHO IS FALLING THE MARKET ,,,,
THAT ,, THEY ARE BUYING AND SELLING INTO ????????????????????????

Hope this helps to clarify MY THEORIES ,,,,

Cheers,
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #310
  • Feb 3, 2019 6:30am Feb 3, 2019 6:30am
Quoting RickM
George is a lot of fun and a incredibly insightful. For the past 10 years, I have always thought that price seeks areas where high liquidity exists AFTER the price breaks through strong resistance areas. I like many traders call them Demand and Supply zones and would take trades away from these Resistance areas but towards the high liquidity zones. George suggested to me last year that Demand & Supply do not exist, its all just Herd behaviour. I took this on board for a while and tried a few different strategy's based on some of his work at the...
Very good point, I presume I understand what you say correctly by saying we trade back into the range where the liquidity is accumulating?
  • #311
  • Feb 3, 2019 7:52am Feb 3, 2019 7:52am
For those serious who want to start applying what George is revealing, to their own trading, then we need to start applying this going forward. To put it into action. Rather than be stuck in some theoretical exercise and looking at charts of what happened historically. Need to get a grasp of it and apply it to the future.

So, based on my understanding of what George has revealed so far here is my take on what is likely to unfold going forward with GBP/JPY.

Annotations of my thinking and levels are on the charts. probably get a pop up on the GJ first to reaffirm the resistance line/zone to the 'herd'. Then move down to fill the liquidity gap. Followed by a repeat and bounce up from that level to condition the herd we have a good support level. That's my attempting at applying it going forward. Anyone have other ideas.

Comments/feedback welcome .....
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  • #312
  • Feb 3, 2019 8:15am Feb 3, 2019 8:15am
Quoting Bushy
{quote} Very good point, I presume I understand what you say correctly by saying we trade back into the range where the liquidity is accumulating?
Hi Bushy

Yes, back towards the area where liquidity is accumulating. I have always thought price is like a marble and rolls towards a mass of orders.
If I placed a bowling ball (mass of orders) on a trampoline and placed a marble at the other end, where do you thing it will roll too.
I personally believe the big players manipulate the orders into pools liquidity and so manage to CREATE VACANT SPACE. This way they can roll their marbles anyway they choose. I trade as I am in a river just stepping from rocks to boulders along with the current, its very profitable this way.

I am interested for Georges to explain on his full theory is on what rises a market and what falls a market
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #313
  • Feb 3, 2019 8:21am Feb 3, 2019 8:21am
Quoting Freefox
For those serious who want to start applying what George is revealing, to their own trading, then we need to start applying this going forward. To put it into action. Rather than be stuck in some theoretical exercise and looking at charts of what happened historically. Need to get a grasp of it and apply it to the future. So, based on my understanding of what George has revealed so far here is my take on what is likely to unfold going forward with GBP/JPY. Annotations of my thinking and levels are on the charts. probably get a pop up on the GJ first...
I'd go along with that, but the trades we are looking for is as per yellow arrows on this chart?
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  • #314
  • Feb 3, 2019 8:36am Feb 3, 2019 8:36am
Quoting RickM
{quote} I am interested for Georges to explain on his full theory is on what rises a market and what falls a market
I try my very best not to think too deep about it, makes me overthink, i.e. trade what I see, I try to go by my observations, but too often I fall into that trap.
  • #315
  • Feb 3, 2019 8:56am Feb 3, 2019 8:56am
Quoting George AUS
{quote} Hello Steve ,,,, Firstly ,,, I have never said anything about US ,, the retail traders being the TARGET ( LIQUIDITY for the market ) ,,,,,as i TOTALLY agree ,,,, Retail traders COLLECTIVELY make up a very small percentage of the market ,,,, AND ,,, When i talk about THE HERD MENTALITY ( which i am assuming why u brought up the question about the RETAIL TRADERS ) ,, i am NOT speaking from a LIQUIDITY aspect ,, BUT rather from a MANIPULATION aspect of fooling them ,,, AS CREAM ON THE CAKE ,,, BUT ,,, As for the Big institutions and the liquidity...

Hi Goerge,

I understand, now, what you mean by "Herd Mentality" being to wrong foot the Retail Trader.

I've asked myself the question who are "they" Buying or Selling from, to get their Orders Filled, and have not been able to answer it.

I am looking forward to hearing your view on how Institutions get their Orders filled.

These days I follow Price and Structure on Higher Time Frames and place Trades on M1 that way I don't have to understand the "How" I just follow the Consequences of "their" actions.

Thanks for your Reply.
  • #316
  • Feb 3, 2019 11:56am Feb 3, 2019 11:56am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Might be worth throwing up a few charts so it can be critiqued. You have asked the question, might be worth checking. Report back here, I would be interested to know. What are the settings you are looking at?
George has asked me to "Chill" and out of respect for him, I should let this go. But the attached pic will make my point. A 56 period LWMA is overlaid on a default setting TmaTrue chart. Should be self explanatory.
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  • #317
  • Feb 3, 2019 12:26pm Feb 3, 2019 12:26pm
Quoting Ryder
{quote} George has asked me to "Chill" and out of respect for him, I should let this go. But the attached pic will make my point. A 56 period LWMA is overlaid on a default setting TmaTrue chart. Should be self explanatory. {image}
Point is , the TMA is not the most important thing, so don't put too much weight on it, it is just a way of getting the best entry, once you have the market structure and manipulation figured out.
  • #318
  • Feb 3, 2019 1:37pm Feb 3, 2019 1:37pm
Quoting Ryder
{quote} George has asked me to "Chill" and out of respect for him, I should let this go. But the attached pic will make my point. A 56 period LWMA is overlaid on a default setting TmaTrue chart. Should be self explanatory. {image}

Well done, you answered your own question.
I imagine George would have used the LWMA if he had found it before the TMA.
The TMA is a visual confirmation on a 1min chart, seconds before placing a trade. The hard graft of trade identification has already been done.
If you prefer, use an LWMA but I wouldn't get too hooked up on it but great start.
  • #319
  • Feb 3, 2019 2:55pm Feb 3, 2019 2:55pm
Hello Everyone,

First of all i wanna thank George for sharing his knowledge with us, we really appreciate your efforts.

I've updated the pdf file with all George's posts up to today.

Happy learning
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  • #320
  • Feb 3, 2019 3:02pm Feb 3, 2019 3:02pm
Hi Guys,
for a Long time i was just a silent spectater of forexfactory, but this thread inspired me to finally join the community.
Like everybody else i started with the Basic technical Analysis and formations with no real sucess. But i learned fast that the best entrys happened
when the stop hunt occured. So i came up with my own Theory of reading the Chart with the Goal to identify the stoplos placments.

In my opinion there are 2 possibilities how the stophunter can use the liquidity which results from a stophunt. As you can see in the picture below
the stophunter can turn around the market or take the liquidity to buy at a good Position with the most optimal stoploss placement. Because of the huge amount of Money the stophunter has, he is forced to do that in order to create big positions.

That is why my strategy is to enter AFTER the Stophunt happened. The only Problem is you dont know in which direction the stophunter goes. But if you jump in the Right direction after the stophunt you`re Risk reward is ridiculous high. Thanks to the thread i could develop my strategy a bit further.

Because the thread is not about my strategy i will stop here. I hope i can give you something to think about wich you can observe everyday in the market. I hope this thread continues the way it is currently.

Kind regards

GERtrader
p.s. sorry for my bad english
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