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- #9,484
- Jan 16, 2019 9:37am Jan 16, 2019 9:37am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Trader | 25,867 Posts
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
- #9,487
- Jan 16, 2019 9:44am Jan 16, 2019 9:44am
What gets me with Mr Special's charts. He posts 15 min AND 4 hour. If he is showing/trying to show areas of buyers and sellers ORDERS , THEY WOULD ALL BE THE SAME AREA/TIME... NOT DIFFERENT TIME CHARTS.
- #9,488
- Jan 16, 2019 9:48am Jan 16, 2019 9:48am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Trader | 25,867 Posts
{quote} It's good enough for the sheep herd
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
What gets me with Mr Special's charts. He posts 15 min AND 4 hour. If he is showing/trying to show areas of buyers and sellers ORDERS , THEY WOULD ALL BE THE SAME AREA/TIME... NOT DIFFERENT TIME CHARTS.
I don't know, you're just a TROLL, you DON'T Trade for real, and you have no idea what you're doing.
(Difficult to get the sarcasm over sometimes in writing, hope you find it in the manner it was intended, and have a laugh
) - #9,490
- Jan 16, 2019 9:50am Jan 16, 2019 9:50am
- | Commercial User | Joined Aug 2014 | 3,922 Posts
there is always, always another trade!!
- #9,491
- Jan 16, 2019 9:56am Jan 16, 2019 9:56am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Trader | 25,867 Posts
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
- #9,492
- Jan 16, 2019 9:57am Jan 16, 2019 9:57am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Trader | 25,867 Posts
{quote} Well, you just don't understand do you, it's people like you that haven't read the whole thread, looked at every video 100 times, studied every chart he's posted, yes people like you, you just don't deserve to understand, you never have and never will, so there's no pint asking him any questions, because you just don't deserve an answer. I don't know, you're just a TROLL, you DON'T Trade for real, and you have no idea what you're doing. (Difficult to get the sarcasm over sometimes in writing, hope you find it in the manner it was intended,...
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
- #9,494
- Jan 16, 2019 10:13am Jan 16, 2019 10:13am
The Answer is!!!!!! Oanda update the data every 20 minutes, so when you use the 15m it will always show the data for the last candle, on the 4Hr I don't know if it shows the latest data or the data for the last candle which would be 4hr+ old, he probably doesn't know himself, I figure he runs it on MT4, it does NOT work very well on MT4, it's a big struggle, I developed mine to work on MT5, and it works a treat. I have spent a ridiculous amount of time developing the indicator, the vertical red line scrolls back and shows you the data for the time...
- #9,496
- Jan 16, 2019 10:25am Jan 16, 2019 10:25am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Trader | 25,867 Posts
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
- #9,498
- Jan 16, 2019 11:16am Jan 16, 2019 11:16am
{quote} It's 5 minutes update for Advanced Trader accounts which requires balance of 50k$ or so. It's nothing for hedge fund manager like FF is
It could be derived from the cumulative data available for free. Dont know how it works now.
- #9,499
- Jan 16, 2019 11:18am Jan 16, 2019 11:18am
- | Commercial User | Joined Aug 2014 | 3,922 Posts
{quote} Of course I am, I need the money for that mansion, how about £3.5m ?
but isnt this in a way exactly the same what you are doing?
ie.
show some screenshot, give a tease that you have something that works better than this or that product,
and share nothing, prove nothing the same time.
remember, as is, FractalFreak isnt selling anything in the moment, so is your equal for that.
what i mean, all this banter, but end of the day, it is good to get a fair trial, right?
and for the fairness belongs the equal facts equal conclusion, right?
let me disclose here something:
the other night i was chatting some with FractalFreak.
just a trader to trader way.
actually he is quite friendly, open, and yes, has some good trading knowledge.
yes, he trades, for fact, and yes, i believe he manages a hedge fund too. ( not all hedge fund is like PTJ, Renaissance, or Soros, etc size!!!)
since i also have prop trading experience, a lot of aspect relate to funds, like investor/principal's expectation, goals, fees, etc.
so, we had a good chat, and i am convinced he is pretty much what he says he is.
also, if someone has a basic understanding of internet search, one can get the relevant information on the net, too. it isnt rocket science to cross verify some info then.
since talking about disclosing; i was not particularly interested to discuss exacts, nor was offered.
what everyone should really understand, there is also both no reason to do, nor obligation to do, and finally no real relevance to any individual.
in the end, one should trade what one is comfortable with.
the thread has some merits in that front;
yes, experienced traders are aware of most what is presented...but the truth is, the majority of ppl on this forum ( or any forum) arent really that experienced.
it is enough to look on the expectations;
the threads popping up every other day, with clickbait titles,
never understanding the concept like cost of opportunity, or even overhead.
but i can see countless repeat of risk 1%, or have tight SL, or...i dont need to repeat on those, all ( ok, those with experience) know what sort of BS most.
when something in trading basic common knowledge, it just about stop to have value.
if everyone does the same thing, then who would be on the other side of a trade?
if it would be that simple as to wait for 2 MA lines to cross, and get millionaire, or better have an EA wait for you so you free to do whatever...i am sure the point is clear.
but dreaming is good.
so, as much as it hurts some egos,
the fact remains, that regular or commercial member, FractalFreak doesnt really have to disclose everything.
we all have different things motivating us to do or dont do something;for example, i used to spend some time 1 on 1 with members interested to learn some about what i am doing. even technically disclosing about all there is, i am not sure how much help it gave in the end for each.
what i know, that a year later, i am still trading, and still trading prop too.
their perception if it is working or not working, or useful or not useful...in the end has no effect on my own reality.
the same way,
while reading some back and forward arguing is fun to a point, there is some borders when it just become too much.
there are just some big facts what cant be ignored.
like no selling taking place.
and there are other facts what need to be respected and observed, probably trader side.
for example, some prop deals i can disclose, and others i have to keep private about what the conditions are exactly.
bcos it is part of the agreement.
in the end there are lines that should or could not be crossed. not in a forum, not in real life.
and especially in this age of the internet, when a lot of private data isnt that private anymore, it is important to keep certain distance, and not openly share private info on any public, open forum unless it is by own choice. most definitely not others choice.
if someone really a scammer, maybe.
but again, facts are facts, and in the end shouldnt be ignored.
if someone isnt selling, isnt scamming.
can argue on wasting time, or share flowed info, or whatever...a forum is to discuss. preferably in adult manner.
anyway,
a long post, LOL, i am sure some know what that mean.
happy trading!
there is always, always another trade!!