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Between thread hopping and systems hopping, which is worse?

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  • System hopping is worse than thread hopping.
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  • #1
  • First Post: Dec 19, 2018 10:18pm Dec 19, 2018 10:18pm
Yesterday, Wednesday December 19, 2018, a member wrote an apologetic post on a popular thread. The member apologised to the OP for mistakenly visiting another thread, pleading not to be seen for thread hopping. Apparently the OP kicks against his thread followers or posters visiting other threads. Personally, I find this rather ludicrous and very much against the spirit of membership of FF. For me, I will advise members to avoid systems hopping. System hopping is a plague and it is far worse than thread hopping. What do you think? Post your opinion here and remember to take the poll.

Trade safe and prosper.

KP
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #2
  • Dec 20, 2018 7:48am Dec 20, 2018 7:48am
Quoting KeenPips
Yesterday, Wednesday December 19, 2018, a member wrote an apologetic post on a popular thread. The member apologised to the OP for mistakenly visiting another thread, pleading not to be seen for thread hopping. Apparently the OP kicks against his thread followers or posters visiting other threads. Personally, I find this rather ludicrous and very much against the spirit of membership of FF. For me, I will advise members to avoid systems hopping. System hopping is a plague and it is far worse than thread hopping. What do you think? Post your opinion...
I visit other threads and post in them all of the time. It does not mean that this will affect my trading, but it has helped me in my coding by downloading open source indicators and studying the code structure.

What happens in popular threads is that new traders come in and then post charts that are unrelated to the subject content. This can, and should, get you banned from the thread. I doubt that the OP cares about others visiting different threads. It is more about polluting the subject matter of the thread in question. If I took the time and great effort to police a thread I would definitely do the same thing. If there is evidence that a poster did not read post one, they are gone. That is just lazy.

As far as the follower not wanting to be seen as thread hopping, then that is a mental issue that the follower has, not the OP. If it is the thread I think you are talking about, I routinely spend long periods away and will only post if the OP is gone for a bit and I see the thread start to drift.

In short, unless the OP has specifically stated that he does not want other people visiting other threads, do you think it is fair to blame the OP for the behavior of a poster?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #3
  • Dec 20, 2018 8:52am Dec 20, 2018 8:52am
Quoting KeenPips
Yesterday, Wednesday December 19, 2018, ....... Apparently the OP kicks against his thread followers
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hey keen....... Yesterday, Wednesday December 19, 2018, i open several new accounts $10,000 in each..... one of those will be solely for system hoping..... it's what i do..... trying new things interests me..... it's fun...... there have been very very few systems outlined on ff that i have not coded and at least given thought to....
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with the exception of a few, i visit most threads and never invisible..... it's what i do..... reading new things interests me..... it's fun..... there have been very very few threads i have not at least skimmed over...... i don't know it all...... that starving rice field worker in vietnam might have something very helpful to say......
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Apparently the OP kicks against his thread followers....... lol....thanks needed a laugh after that dang eurusd lo$$ from this morning......

as far as those dreaded thread police, typically i seldom visit their threads ..... if they kicked me i might cry in public...... and that is so embarrassing....h

Apparently the OP kicks against his thread followers.........

lol...... dangit keen....... can't get that out of my mind....... now i gotta hop from thread to thread to find who your talkin about....... post police......lol.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #4
  • Dec 20, 2018 9:48am Dec 20, 2018 9:48am
Thanks mate for your contribution. The poster was afraid that the OP whose thread he/she follows would find him/her out for visiting another thread. It wasn't a matter of posting something different from the thread's theme. It's about a herd mentality being promoted or appeared to being promoted.

Basically, the point is, between thread hopping and systems hopping, which is worse for a trader? I blame nobody.

Trade safe and prosper.

KP

Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I visit other threads and post in them all of the time. It does not mean that this will affect my trading, but it has helped me in my coding by downloading open source indicators and studying the code structure...I doubt that the OP cares about others visiting different threads. It is more about polluting the subject matter of the thread in question...In short, unless the OP has specifically stated that he does not want other people visiting other threads, do you think it is fair to blame the OP for the behavior of a poster?
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  • #5
  • Dec 20, 2018 11:11am Dec 20, 2018 11:11am
Reading couple of different threads, and god forbid replying a few too,
Should have most likely no effect on following one's own system of trading.

In my eyes, system hopping is surely a no no; infrequently adjusting is acceptable, weekly/monthly jumping to something new is not.
Reading around for learning or entertainment is just normal activity, nothing wrong.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #6
  • Dec 20, 2018 12:15pm Dec 20, 2018 12:15pm
Very much agree with you, mate!

Trade safe and prosper.

KP

Quoting profitfarmer
...In my eyes, system hopping is surely a no no; infrequently adjusting is acceptable, weekly/monthly jumping to something new is not. Reading around for learning or entertainment is just normal activity, nothing wrong.
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #7
  • Dec 20, 2018 1:34pm Dec 20, 2018 1:34pm
Quoting KeenPips
Thanks mate for your contribution. The poster was afraid that the OP whose thread he/she follows would find him/her out for visiting another thread. It wasn't a matter of posting something different from the thread's theme. It's about a herd mentality being promoted or appeared to being promoted. Basically, the point is, between thread hopping and systems hopping, which is worse for a trader? I blame nobody. Trade safe and prosper. KP {quote}
Thread hopping, very good. Systems hopping, very bad.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #8
  • Dec 20, 2018 2:13pm Dec 20, 2018 2:13pm
An FF member broadens their perspective and sharpens their skills by making contributions on thread they find relevant. Constructive criticisms, when taken with a view to profitable improvements, help build a trader's confidence.

Trade safe and prosper.

KP

Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Thread hopping, very good...
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  • #9
  • Dec 20, 2018 7:51pm Dec 20, 2018 7:51pm
Dear KP,

Thank you for sharing your observation and to be honest I would have not expected to read about such an incident. FF is a forum after all, a place where opinions, discussions and knowledge are shared (good and bad). I think that by limiting oneself to a single thread could hinder the development of one's unique trading methodology/ strategy.

I have seen also specific thread "rules/ guidelines" that are to keep the thread systems from evolving into a random mess, which I think is totally acceptable.

Big thanks to the contributions to this thread; jmn5611, hayseed and profitfarmer on sharing their thoughts and wisdom.

Kind Regards,
Tzamo
"Work hard, put in the effort, and follow your dreams..." -Me
  • #10
  • Dec 20, 2018 8:04pm Dec 20, 2018 8:04pm
Trading is more or less the same IMHO. They are just telling in the slightly different languages. Reading and seeing different ideas from different people won't harm anyway..... Core is the same.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #11
  • Dec 21, 2018 2:18am Dec 21, 2018 2:18am
Quoting KeenPips
Yesterday, Wednesday December 19, 2018, a member wrote an apologetic post on a popular thread. The member apologised to the OP for mistakenly visiting another thread, pleading not to be seen for thread hopping. Apparently the OP kicks against his thread followers or posters visiting other threads. Personally, I find this rather ludicrous and very much against the spirit of membership of FF. For me, I will advise members to avoid systems hopping. System hopping is a plague and it is far worse than thread hopping. What do you think? Post your opinion...

Found it.

You are right, its ludicrous! Predatory and very insecure (for good reason?)

Have you informed Twee yet?
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  • #12
  • Dec 21, 2018 10:46am Dec 21, 2018 10:46am
My interest is to make positive contributions that would benefit members. It's not about policing, a reason why I didn't disclose the name of the thread.

KP

Quoting Rastus81
{quote} Found it. You are right, its ludicrous! Predatory and very insecure (for good reason?) Have you informed Twee yet?
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #13
  • Dec 21, 2018 10:48am Dec 21, 2018 10:48am
Meaning you agree that thread hopping is not what any OP should frown at.

KP

Quoting heispark
Trading is more or less the same IMHO. They are just telling in the slightly different languages. Reading and seeing different ideas from different people won't harm anyway..... Core is the same.
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #14
  • Jan 1, 2019 2:13am Jan 1, 2019 2:13am
As of December 31, 2018, it was apparent from the poll on this thread that thread-hopping should not be made an issue (or frowned upon) by any OP. Systems-hopping (75%) is far worse than thread-hopping (0%).

Trade safe and prosper.

Wishing you all greater success in 2019.

KP

Quoting KeenPips
Yesterday, Wednesday December 19, 2018, a member wrote an apologetic post on a popular thread. The member apologised to the OP for mistakenly visiting another thread, pleading not to be seen for thread hopping. Apparently the OP kicks against his thread followers or posters visiting other threads. Personally, I find this rather ludicrous and very much against the spirit of membership of FF. For me, I will advise members to avoid systems hopping. System hopping is a plague and it is far worse than thread hopping. What do you think? Post your opinion...
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #15
  • Jan 1, 2019 3:26am Jan 1, 2019 3:26am
Thread hopping has the potential of opening your mind to new ideas and the certainty of making you read a lot of shit and those trying to make you guilty by going elsewhere are just idiots who are morphing into gurus wannabes.

System hopping is a necessary evil, as we all have to test systems and things to separate what works from what doesn't until we have the experience, luck, wisdom or whatever you want to stop it.

All the best for 2019 !
Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication.
  • #16
  • Last Post: Jan 1, 2019 4:13am Jan 1, 2019 4:13am
I'm with you on thread-hopping mate. Systems-hopping? We all do it, particularly as newbie traders. But should be stymied or stopped as soon as the trader gains proficiency and has tested out a few systems; then, he or she should stick mainly with one system and be a master of it.

Trade safe and prosper.

KP

Quoting broketrader
Thread hopping has the potential of opening your mind to new ideas and the certainty of making you read a lot of shit and those trying to make you guilty by going elsewhere are just idiots who are morphing into gurus wannabes. System hopping is a necessary evil, as we all have to test systems and things to separate what works from what doesn't until we have the experience, luck, wisdom or whatever you want to stop it. All the best for 2019 !
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
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