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  • #481
  • Dec 9, 2018 11:43pm Dec 9, 2018 11:43pm
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  • #482
  • Edited Dec 10, 2018 12:47am Dec 9, 2018 11:47pm | Edited Dec 10, 2018 12:47am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-DmAh0dObI
  • #483
  • Dec 9, 2018 11:56pm Dec 9, 2018 11:56pm
George Carlin - Politicians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07w9K2XR3f0
  • #484
  • Dec 9, 2018 11:58pm Dec 9, 2018 11:58pm
Electric Light Orchestra - Strange Magic & Livin' Thing

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  • #485
  • Dec 10, 2018 12:12am Dec 10, 2018 12:12am
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  • #486
  • Dec 10, 2018 6:42am Dec 10, 2018 6:42am
Quoting Pips_Cruiser
{quote} Well, I did say, "There's also an obvious 'right-of-center' bias in Fox News, maybe even 'far-right'". I didn't add the "maybe even" by accident. I think there is some room for doubt. Your graph didn't help me any, and I honestly haven't noticed those pleasant traits you associate with Fox News. But after letting the issue sit in the back of my mind for a few hours, I can see where a reasonable and intelligent person might see them the way you describe. Personally, I see them more in the way you view CNN and MSNBC. But we carry around our...
This is why I wondered what you personally felt about right vs left. In other words how do you define right and left.

Not to be tedious but I see right as conservative and tending to less government in individuals' lives. It also values individual rights over the rights of the collective but not to the point of complete selfishness. There is more value placed on the fact that inalienable rights are God-given rather than given by man.

Left tends towards more government in individual's lives and values the right of the collective over the rights of the individual. There is more value placed on the rights that government gives people rather than God-given rights.

Of course there is so much more to this but I think we have the responsibility to understand where we are coming from in regards to right vs left as this will obviously influence our viewing tendencies. It will also influence our view of how right or left a new organization is or isn't. Unfortunately many have not thought about what they feel in these regards and just go with the first they hear.

No doubt Fox new is conservative but I think they reasonably report news without the hate that has invaded MSNBC and CNN.
  • #487
  • Dec 10, 2018 7:47am Dec 10, 2018 7:47am
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  • #488
  • Dec 10, 2018 10:23am Dec 10, 2018 10:23am
Quoting jmn5611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ2L-R8NgrA
Oh No I did not just watch this...

Made my day funny as hell..!
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  • #489
  • Dec 10, 2018 11:45am Dec 10, 2018 11:45am
Weaponizing the Term « Conspiracy Theory »: Disinformation Agents and the CIA

https://www.mondialisation.ca/weaponizing-the-term-conspiracy-theory-disinformation-agents-and-the-cia/5524552
  • #490
  • Dec 10, 2018 12:49pm Dec 10, 2018 12:49pm
Quoting AlexC
Weaponizing the Term « Conspiracy Theory »: Disinformation Agents and the CIA https://www.mondialisation.ca/weaponizing-the-term-conspiracy-theory-disinformation-agents-and-the-cia/5524552
Mondialisation.ca is run by The Centre for Global Research, which is based in Montreal.

Here's a review of them from Quora:

https://www.quora.com/Journalistic-Ethics-and-Norms-How-legitimate-is-The-Centre-for-Global-Research

Excerpt follows:

Journalistic Ethics and Norms: How legitimate is The Centre for Global Research?

http://Mondialisation.ca (http://Mondialisation.ca/)


"It is by no means an objectively reliable media source. The articles, videos, and other media it puts forth are highly skewed and often factually inaccurate.

Some people have been quoting it as a legitimate source, but it has very strong ties to an organization known for churning out blatant propaganda.

The Centre for Research on Globalization, also known as the Centre for Global Research and Mondialisation.ca (http://mondialisation.ca/) is a fascist/Kremlin-funded propaganda outlet that defames and slanders their targeted groups such as Jews, Ukrainians, the United States, and other western countries."

A review from RationalWiki:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch

Excerpt follows:

"Globalresearch is an "anti-Western" website that can't distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk — and so publishes both. It's basically the moonbat equivalent to Infowars or WND.

While some of GlobalResearch's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is conspiracist — if something goes wrong, the Jews West didit! The site has long been a crank magnet: If you disagree with "Western" sources on 9/11, or HAARP, or vaccines, or H1N1, or climate change, or anything published by the "mainstream" media, then GlobalResearch is guaranteed to have a page you will love.

The website (under the domain names globalresearch.ca(link), globalresearch.org(link), globalresearch.com(link), and sister site mondialisation.ca(link)) is run by the Montreal-based non-profit The Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG) founded by Michel Chossudovsky,[2][3] a former professor of economics at the University of Ottawa, Canada.[4]

Whenever someone makes a remarkable claim and cites GlobalResearch, they are almost certainly wrong."

A review from Media Bias/Fact Check:

"Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information, therefore fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/conspiracy/).

Factual Reporting: MIXED

Notes: Publishes many unsubstantiated conspiracies. While some of Global Research’s articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is conspiracist. (7/20/2016)"

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  • #491
  • Dec 10, 2018 1:09pm Dec 10, 2018 1:09pm
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  • #492
  • Dec 10, 2018 5:21pm Dec 10, 2018 5:21pm
Quoting Mundo
{quote} Oh No I did not just watch this... Made my day funny as hell..!
I thought is was a pretty funny way to make light of the enormity of hypocrisy on the christian right.

If the teachings that Jesus promoted were written on a piece of paper and his name taken off them, to some people on the right he would be a leftist commie snowflake!
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  • Dec 10, 2018 5:25pm Dec 10, 2018 5:25pm
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  • #494
  • Dec 10, 2018 6:22pm Dec 10, 2018 6:22pm
why-quora-sucks
https://thetechreader.com/top-ten/top-10-reasons-why-quora-sucks-and-deserves-to-die-a-quick-death/

RationalWiki, "reality has a liberal bias"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RationalWiki

Media Bias/Fact Check Left Bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/
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  • Dec 10, 2018 6:48pm Dec 10, 2018 6:48pm
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  • #496
  • Dec 10, 2018 7:57pm Dec 10, 2018 7:57pm
Quoting AlexC
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Good one!
  • #497
  • Dec 10, 2018 8:14pm Dec 10, 2018 8:14pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I thought is was a pretty funny way to make light of the enormity of hypocrisy on the christian right. If the teachings that Jesus promoted were written on a piece of paper and his name taken off them, to some people on the right he would be a leftist commie snowflake!
There is certainly enormous hypocrisy but it exists on both spectrums of religious/political debate. You could say "If the teachings that Jesus promoted were written on a piece of paper and his name taken off them, to some people on the left he would be a right-wing ________(insert your favorite anti-right term).
  • #498
  • Edited Dec 11, 2018 7:16pm Dec 10, 2018 8:17pm | Edited Dec 11, 2018 7:16pm
Quoting AlexC
why-quora-sucks https://thetechreader.com/top-ten/top-10-reasons-why-quora-sucks-and-deserves-to-die-a-quick-death/ RationalWiki, "reality has a liberal bias" https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RationalWiki Media Bias/Fact Check Left Bias https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/ {image} {image}
Wow! I think I detect a pattern, Alex. This is like two experienced tic tac toe players going at it. The game ends in a draw every time. You can't prove your claims, and I can't disprove them. I'll make a deal with you. We've had our fun for a few days, and I think it's time to quit. Move on to other topics now, and you're welcome to stay on the thread.
  • #499
  • Dec 10, 2018 8:38pm Dec 10, 2018 8:38pm
Quoting Pips_Cruiser
{quote} Wow! I think I detect a pattern, Alex. This is like two experienced tic tac toe players going at it. The game ends in a draw every time. You can't prove your claims, and I can't disprove them. I'll make a deal with you. We've had our fun for a few days, and I think it's time to quit. Move on to other topics now, and you're welcome to stay on the thread.
...and I thought we where playing 4D chess!
No problem! Other topics it is. Just like the rabbit hole. It runs deep...
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  • Dec 10, 2018 8:43pm Dec 10, 2018 8:43pm
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