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#461
Dec 9, 2018 11:01am Dec 9, 2018 11:01am

Pips_Cruiser
Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Following The Trade Winds | 8,442 Posts

Quoting Winston Reed

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{quote} France's people and everyone else feeling all warm and fuzzy about about the Paris Accord get their panties all in a wad when Macron actually does something about it such as try to raise taxes on fuel (an attempt to limit fossil fuel consumption leading to reduced green house gas emissions leading to decreased global warming). Seems like everyone who is for the Paris Accord can't stomach the actions needed to actually affect "global warming". They want to limit global warming but they still want unlimited cheap gas to drive their green-house-gas...

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Good points.

#462
Dec 9, 2018 11:05am Dec 9, 2018 11:05am

Winston Reed
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Quoting Pips_Cruiser

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I do agree there's a “left-of-center” bias in most western news media. CNN is the most extreme, and they're probably far-left. But more than that, they've made Trump their main focus. CNN has basically gone to war with him. Maybe they don't like being called the enemy of the people, and fake news, so they're getting their revenge. Looks like they're having fun too, and Trump keeps giving them plenty of material. Of course, all of that is “fake news” to D.T. There's also an obvious “right-of-center” bias in Fox News, maybe even “far-right”. Same...

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Curious...what do you think is "far-right"?

#463
Edited 2:18pm Dec 9, 2018 11:07am | Edited 2:18pm

Pips_Cruiser
Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Following The Trade Winds | 8,442 Posts

French opposition parties are taking Macron’s anti-misinformation law to court

"What the law says:

The French law (http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/15/ta/tap0190.pdf) is the first legislative act that provides a definition of “fake news”: “Inexact allegations or imputations, or news that falsely report facts, with the aim of changing the sincerity of a vote.”

Lexicology aside, the whole law is designed to enact strict rules on the media during electoral campaigns and, more specifically, in the three months preceding any vote.

If in this period false allegations are spread online “massively, deliberately, artificially or automatically,” a judge is authorized to act “proportionally” but “with any means” to halt their dissemination..."

https://www.poynter.org/news/french-opposition-parties-are-taking-macrons-anti-misinformation-law-court

#464
Dec 9, 2018 11:42am Dec 9, 2018 11:42am

Pips_Cruiser
Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Following The Trade Winds | 8,442 Posts

Quoting Winston Reed

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{quote} Curious...what do you think is "far-right"?

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I would agree with this definition of "media right bias":

"Media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes."

The stronger or more pronounced it is, the further to the right it is considered to be. Far right would be completely biased to conservative causes.

Of course, the same idea would apply to "left bias". Obviously that exists too.

As a child in the 1950s, Eisenhower was president and the country leaned to the right. Then Kennedy and Johnson came along and the country leaned left. Then with Nixon and Ford sent it to the right again. Then it went left. Then it went right. Then it went left. Then it went right. Then it went left. Now it's right with Trump in office, and the conservatives are having their heyday. It seems a little more pronounced now, because of the internet and some imaginative people. But as far as I can see, we're just going through the usual cycle of leaning in one direction for awhile, and then the other. In a couple years people will think the right has gone too far, and the country will vote in leaders from the left. The political cycle will continue to play out. Both sides are part of a whole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpj7WWC-nw

#465
Dec 9, 2018 11:56am Dec 9, 2018 11:56am

CARP.BLUFFS
Joined Feb 2016 | Status: CHANGES WITH PRICE ACTION | 578 Posts

Amazing Octopus - Most Intelligent Animal on Earth?

https://youtu.be/_G6eH1KDl0s

#466
Dec 9, 2018 1:56pm Dec 9, 2018 1:56pm

Pips_Cruiser
Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Following The Trade Winds | 8,442 Posts

The Moody Blues - Melancholy Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYIYIVG64C4

#467
Dec 9, 2018 2:02pm Dec 9, 2018 2:02pm

Pips_Cruiser
Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Following The Trade Winds | 8,442 Posts

Robert Plant - In The Mood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSeoWutt54

#468
Dec 9, 2018 2:11pm Dec 9, 2018 2:11pm

Pips_Cruiser
Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Following The Trade Winds | 8,442 Posts

Cheech & Chong - Low Rider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alyx4QeRRdg

#469
Dec 9, 2018 2:49pm Dec 9, 2018 2:49pm

Winston Reed
Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Hobby Trader | 4,477 Posts

Quoting Pips_Cruiser

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{quote} I would agree with this definition of "media right bias": "Media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes." The stronger or more pronounced it is, the further to the right it is considered to be. Far right would be completely biased to...

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I was referring to what you thought the definitions of right thought vs left thought and then what far-right thought is. There is a distinction to be made. Here's a graph that sums it up rather briefly but it's what I was referring to. Fox News is certainly right of center but they are not far-right given the graph. Fox also makes considerable effort to present left views in a reasonable manner in contrast to news outlets such as MSNBC and CNN which spend most of their time bashing Trump and conservative (right) thought.

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#470
Dec 9, 2018 3:35pm Dec 9, 2018 3:35pm

AlexC
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#471
Dec 9, 2018 8:42pm Dec 9, 2018 8:42pm

Pips_Cruiser
Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Following The Trade Winds | 8,442 Posts

Quoting Winston Reed

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{quote} I was referring to what you thought the definitions of right thought vs left thought and then what far-right thought is. There is a distinction to be made. Here's a graph that sums it up rather briefly but it's what I was referring to. Fox News is certainly right of center but they are not far-right given the graph. Fox also makes considerable effort to present left views in a reasonable manner in contrast to news outlets such as MSNBC and CNN which spend most of their time bashing Trump and conservative (right) thought. {image}

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Well, I did say, "There's also an obvious 'right-of-center' bias in Fox News, maybe even 'far-right'". I didn't add the "maybe even" by accident. I think there is some room for doubt. Your graph didn't help me any, and I honestly haven't noticed those pleasant traits you associate with Fox News. But after letting the issue sit in the back of my mind for a few hours, I can see where a reasonable and intelligent person might see them the way you describe. Personally, I see them more in the way you view CNN and MSNBC. But we carry around our own personal beliefs, biases, and life experience, and that helps shape the way we see things. So I think it's very possible Fox News is not "far-right", just "right-biased" or "right-of-center".

#472
Dec 9, 2018 10:29pm Dec 9, 2018 10:29pm

Pips_Cruiser
Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Following The Trade Winds | 8,442 Posts

A company called Media Bias/Fact Check evaluates news coverage and reports on it.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/about/

"Media Bias/Fact Check (MBFC News), founded in 2015, is an independent online media outlet. MBFC News is dedicated to educating the public on media bias and deceptive news practices. MBFC News’ aim is to inspire action and a rejection of overtly biased media. We want to return to an era of straight forward news reporting. Funding for MBFC News comes from site advertising, individual donors, and the pockets of our bias checkers.
MBFC News follows a strict methodology for determining the biases of sources. Dave Van Zandt is the primary editor for sources. He is assisted by a collective of volunteers who assist in research for many sources listed on these pages. MBFC News also provides occasional fact checks, original articles on media bias and breaking/important news stories, especially as it relates to USA politics."

Here's what they have on Fox News.

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