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  • #65,881
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:01am Dec 6, 2018 5:01am
Quoting knkie
{quote} am i missing something guys? I see a definite move lower. Its pulling back to the break level at 1.1334 but then it should drop like Galileo's feathers. Or maybe im seeing things :S
you are see what we are see..
there is a sell pressure, we feel it.. but nothing big happening.
so we are waiting for new development.
  • #65,882
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:02am Dec 6, 2018 5:02am
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} No you are not. First target is aeound 1.128x area. However, EU to me is a heavily manipulated pair. This whole up down slow move is on purpose to throw people off. I just want to watch. It's either I get a high price to short or I miss the train and buy heavily for a bounce at the bottom. I don't want to be caught in a cross fire here.
Thanx Miti !
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  • #65,883
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:06am Dec 6, 2018 5:06am
Quoting Hickson
{quote} How will you manipulate such a huge and liquid market? Minor crosses or so I guess are more prone to manipulation than the majors. Not saying someone is trying, but it is an enormous volume every day in EURUSD. Even hard for big banks to manipulate that.
That's what we all say until we actually find out from those who have been there. See, every price you see on your screen is controlled. There are institution/people who have unbelieveable price-moving ability. I can't go into that argument here.
  • #65,884
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:10am Dec 6, 2018 5:10am
if M5 closes above 1.13433 i will be bullish...
If you don't know how to earn money, don't loose it.
  • #65,885
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:11am Dec 6, 2018 5:11am
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} That's what we all say until we actually find out from those who have been there. See, every price you see on your screen is controlled. There are institution/people who have unbelieveable price-moving ability. I can't go into that argument here.
Thats really interesting topic - I would like to see some proof of the manipulation.
For me, it seems that traders very much like to blame the random aspect of market movements on manipulation by some mysterious power players, when in fact it is just random capital flows. Occam's razor.
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  • #65,886
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:13am Dec 6, 2018 5:13am
Quoting 5astelija
{quote} Thats really interesting topic - I would like to see some proof of the manipulation. For me, it seems that traders very much like to blame the random aspect of market movements on manipulation by some mysterious power players, when in fact it is just random capital flows. Occam's razor.
On that topic... Here's a good read I chanced upon in my earlier years: https://forums.babypips.com/t/the-tr...he-banks/57406

Now whether what this guy says is true or not, I have no idea. Read it for entertainment and take it with a pinch of salt.
You hesitate, you masturbate.
  • #65,887
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:16am Dec 6, 2018 5:16am
Quoting engweijie
{quote} On that topic... Here's a good read I chanced upon in my earlier years: https://forums.babypips.com/t/the-tr...he-banks/57406 Now whether what this guy says is true or not, I have no idea. Read it for entertainment and take it with a pinch of salt.

"My early years"
Dude your 21
lol
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  • #65,888
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:17am Dec 6, 2018 5:17am
Quoting knkie
{quote} "My early years" Dude your 21 lol
early years of starting FX* hahaha that link was something from 5 years ago
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  • #65,889
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:19am Dec 6, 2018 5:19am
Quoting 5astelija
{quote} Thats really interesting topic - I would like to see some proof of the manipulation. For me, it seems that traders very much like to blame the random aspect of market movements on manipulation by some mysterious power players, when in fact it is just random capital flows. Occam's razor.
Random. Where in the world do you see money left to random occurrence? At least you have on CNN, BBC, etc news of banks getting fined billions (they'll still repeat the crime because they still have net profit after the fines) and bankers prosecuted for manipulation. This is even a little piece of the iceberg compared to what's happening.

I must add, however, without these crooks price may not move properly and you as a retail trader wont be able to trade.
  • #65,890
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:19am Dec 6, 2018 5:19am
Quoting coolmakina
if M5 closes above 1.13433 i will be bullish...
look for above 1.1345X
  • #65,891
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:22am Dec 6, 2018 5:22am
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} I must add, however, without these crooks price may not move properly and you as a retail trader wont be able to trade.
Maybe we should leave it at that. Good enough if it works.
Fix up, trade sharp ...
  • #65,892
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:24am Dec 6, 2018 5:24am
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} Random. Where in the world do you see money left to random occurrence? At least you have on CNN, BBC, etc news of banks getting fined billions (they'll still repeat the crime because they still have net profit after the fines) and bankers prosecuted for manipulation. This is even a little piece of the iceberg compared to what's happening. I must add, however, without these crooks price may not move properly and you as a retail trader wont be able to trade.
By random I mean money transactions NOT targeted to obtain profit from the currency rate changes. Its very hard for me to believe that the big banks are taking huge financial and legal risks just to get some pennies out of retail forex traders There must be more profitable business opportunities for those banks.
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  • #65,893
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:34am Dec 6, 2018 5:34am
Hey Boys!

Looking to breakdown! Waiting 1.1280
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  • #65,894
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:36am Dec 6, 2018 5:36am
Quoting engweijie
{quote} early years of starting FX* hahaha that link was something from 5 years ago
just teasing

youre wise beyond your age
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  • #65,895
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:37am Dec 6, 2018 5:37am
If this H1 bar will close bullish I will enter long.
  • #65,896
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:37am Dec 6, 2018 5:37am
about manipulation - it more like gray area rather than black and white.
if you understand the word manipulation as something can be controlled and used, then market is not manipulated. google for forex trading losses of the world's largest banks. they also lose huge money trading/dealing forex.
if you understand the word as taking advantage of market inefficiencies, then yes, the market can be manipulated. if you, as a trader have experience and skills, you feel/know the moments of inefficiency and also can take advantage of just like any bank or hedge fund.
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  • #65,897
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:42am Dec 6, 2018 5:42am
EU Support

Like = Hold
Dislike = Break

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  • #65,898
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:43am Dec 6, 2018 5:43am
Quoting gatenio
{quote} Moty which time frame is it?
15 m
yes yes yes
  • #65,899
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:45am Dec 6, 2018 5:45am
Quoting 5astelija
{quote} By random I mean money transactions NOT targeted to obtain profit from the currency rate changes. Its very hard for me to believe that the big banks are taking huge financial and legal risks just to get some pennies out of retail forex traders There must be more profitable business opportunities for those banks.
Okay now I understand why the subject is a bit confusing to you. Retail traders are like an inconsequential fly; their money is not worth anything. Bigger banks/institutions take from smaller banks/institutions, not retail traders. Also there are big corporations who do currency exchange for exports/imports and these people are also used by the banks. Long story bro. You can do some research yourself. Let's not detail this thread.
  • #65,900
  • Dec 6, 2018 5:53am Dec 6, 2018 5:53am
It's clearly testing Nov fibs atm, 1.1320 bearland

I agree with others 1.1342 could spring some upside I think we are in a bull phase atm
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