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  • #281
  • Nov 13, 2018 8:55am Nov 13, 2018 8:55am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} No thanks. The rise of a bunch of right wing fringe groups does not even remotely compare to any of the events you named. Let's go back to the zombies. They are having one last resurgent before the world wakes up and faces the real problems such as global warming which the zombies don't care for because they are already in advance stages of decay.
Your statement is an excellent example of what the professor in the video is speaking about. The populism that is sweeping the developed world is not a bunch of right wing fringe groups. FAR from it. It is the electorate recognizing a fundamental change in the system, this is coming out as a global shift on the right and the left. The results of this cannot be predicted, trade small.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #282
  • Nov 13, 2018 9:00am Nov 13, 2018 9:00am
The Titanic is sinking and Kim Kardashian is sitting in front of her make up mirror complaining that her room service has not been adequate, her highly desired celeb position in the world hasn't been respected and she wants walls around her cabin to fend off all those that want a piece of her.
Will happily stream and watch a movie about her fate and without the industrial revolution and internet I guess her voyage and the movie wouldn't have been a possibility.
  • #283
  • Nov 13, 2018 9:04am Nov 13, 2018 9:04am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Your statement is an excellent example of what the professor in the video is speaking about. The populism that is sweeping the developed world is not a bunch of right wing fringe groups. FAR from it. It is the electorate recognizing a fundamental change in the system, this is coming out as a global shift on the right and the left. The results of this cannot be predicted, trade small.
USA has about 5% of the world population. The majority voted against the Bozo due to some dumb election rules that no other country follows. It went against the electorate with help from outside powers and the hacking of social media and such. No, it's a mistake and not a popular uprising.
  • #284
  • Nov 13, 2018 9:04am Nov 13, 2018 9:04am
if you dont set SL, you must have strict rules to close trade and must get an alert indicator. if not i think you will sink sooner or later.
  • #285
  • Nov 13, 2018 9:09am Nov 13, 2018 9:09am
Quoting OutThere
The Titanic is sinking and Kim Kardashian is sitting in front of her make up mirror complaining that her room service has not been adequate, her highly desired celeb position in the world hasn't been respected and she wants walls around her cabin to fend off all those that want a piece of her. Will happily stream and watch a movie about her fate and without the industrial revolution and internet I guess her voyage and the movie wouldn't have been a possibility.
I see. Good luck with that and happy trading!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #286
  • Nov 14, 2018 6:29am Nov 14, 2018 6:29am
Quoting TheBestMA
if you dont set SL, you must have strict rules to close trade and must get an alert indicator. if not i think you will sink sooner or later.
Do you prefer to do that or do you use stop loss?
  • #287
  • Nov 14, 2018 8:01am Nov 14, 2018 8:01am
Its interesting everyone focuses on standard trading ambitions, Chart trading, but want to pass by Stop losses...

If you want to keep the stop loss away you must think about martingale, grid and another Money management Attitude (Basket trading), to win.
  • #288
  • Nov 15, 2018 5:56am Nov 15, 2018 5:56am
Most traders do use stop losses, but I agree, how that SL is placed may always be well thought out.
  • #289
  • Nov 18, 2018 3:19pm Nov 18, 2018 3:19pm
trading without stop-loss is usually more profitable, but one day, it will blow-up your account and you can start from beginning. And this day come with nearly 100% probability...
  • #290
  • Nov 20, 2018 2:31am Nov 20, 2018 2:31am
I think they use Margin call, Simply adjust your value and submerge money in risk to your leverage, so, no sl, just margin call. For example, if I have 1000$ and I don't want to risk more than 10% = 100$, just simply deposit 200$ and have a margin call at 50% margin level (still depend on your total positioned orders)
  • #291
  • Nov 20, 2018 2:52am Nov 20, 2018 2:52am
Quoting VuTrongAn
I think they use Margin call, Simply adjust your value and submerge money in risk to your leverage, so, no sl, just margin call. For example, if I have 1000$ and I don't want to risk more than 10% = 100$, just simply deposit 200$ and have a margin call at 50% margin level (still depend on your total positioned orders)
Clever.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #292
  • Nov 20, 2018 6:36am Nov 20, 2018 6:36am
Quoting VuTrongAn
I think they use Margin call, Simply adjust your value and submerge money in risk to your leverage, so, no sl, just margin call. For example, if I have 1000$ and I don't want to risk more than 10% = 100$, just simply deposit 200$ and have a margin call at 50% margin level (still depend on your total positioned orders)
but SL is in this case margin call, just simple same. all what is exactly doing same kind of trade then a SL trade, is a SL, thatwhy also a hedge is nothing then a SL....
even options are SL, at least for a special timeframe until the expiration date.

when you are smaller trader, this things like margin call are simple possible, because you are no professional trader and dont have to pay negative balance... so this will work... and when you bring only very small parts of your money in side all accounts, you dont risk more then 1-5% of the wealth when you get margin called.... when bringing in more, some have understand something different...of course win is also much smaller against having big money in a account...
  • #293
  • Nov 20, 2018 3:30pm Nov 20, 2018 3:30pm
Don't listen to Dukas he isn't a trader he is a faker. He can't prove anything he says is true and yet ye pretends to trade millions with a 3 billion turnover.
  • #294
  • Nov 20, 2018 3:40pm Nov 20, 2018 3:40pm
Quoting EcoTrader
Don't listen to Dukas he isn't a trader he is a faker. He can't prove anything he says is true and yet ye pretends to trade millions with a 3 billion turnover.
Anyone with half of a brain cell, would have now worked out, the Man/Women (I can’t figure which), is an ilitrate, if anyone believes a person with the intellectuals of a child would be trading million $ accounts, would never make a trader.

He/She keeps going on about costs, I don’t get Him/Her.
  • #295
  • Nov 20, 2018 3:48pm Nov 20, 2018 3:48pm
Quoting Asw
{quote} Anyone with half of a brain cell, would have now worked out, the Man/Women (I can’t figure which), is an ilitrate, if anyone believes a person with the intellectuals of a child would be trading million $ accounts, would never make a trader. He/She keeps going on about costs, I don’t get Him/Her.
give Dukas some credit he does know the BASICS
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  • #296
  • Nov 20, 2018 3:53pm Nov 20, 2018 3:53pm
Quoting Ross88
{quote} give Dukas some credit he does know the BASICS {image}
Yes, sorry, looking at his thread, he can advise how to open a trade on MT4.
  • #297
  • Nov 20, 2018 4:46pm Nov 20, 2018 4:46pm
Quoting Asw
{quote} Anyone with half of a brain cell, would have now worked out, the Man/Women (I can’t figure which), is an ilitrate, if anyone believes a person with the intellectuals of a child would be trading million $ accounts, would never make a trader. He/She keeps going on about costs, I don’t get Him/Her.

that you are a loser makes you so jealous.

you write unexpeirneced, get corrected and get stating crazy... funyn loser!

sometimes correctin bullshit of your losers is hard work, when not some days so funny freaks like you and ecotrader whould happen, that make me laugh all day, it would be also more boring.

so learn bascis, fake less and you look less like a foll baby.
  • #298
  • Nov 20, 2018 4:48pm Nov 20, 2018 4:48pm
Quoting Ross88
{quote} give Dukas some credit he does know the BASICS {image}
hihi, my little ross88 faker.,

i remember you idiotic misleading posts i needed to correct, looks like the funny group of misleading loser is complete now?
moodybot, ecotrader, ross88, fractalfreak, asw, loser in trading, fakers in writing... funny group. at least you find yourself in a faker group.,

funny that even so many of you fakers cant get any argument, and your fake arguments kill seconds. bring me please good fakers, always attacked by you victims is sometimes less fun then possible , i need a challenge
  • #299
  • Nov 20, 2018 4:51pm Nov 20, 2018 4:51pm
Quoting EcoTrader
Don't listen to Dukas he isn't a trader he is a faker. He can't prove anything he says is true and yet ye pretends to trade millions with a 3 billion turnover.

hey my little loser, now after i teached you 2 days you get it, turnover is no win.

wow, first time ever you really learned something. before all laughed about you, that you really thought tunrover = win, really stupid.

you are to stupid to know how easy 1 billion turnover is possible per month, but however, you are rookie noob trader with no money, so of course you cant imagine.

and looks like you dont know what kind of SL are same like a SL. you lazy boy, learn basics, and dont look like a fool in any post . R1 baby, aloways R1 with you!
  • #300
  • Nov 20, 2018 6:09pm Nov 20, 2018 6:09pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} hihi, my little ross88 faker., i remember you idiotic misleading posts i needed to correct, looks like the funny group of misleading loser is complete now? moodybot, ecotrader, ross88, fractalfreak, asw, loser in trading, fakers in writing... funny group. at least you find yourself in a faker group., funny that even so many of you fakers cant get any argument, and your fake arguments kill seconds. bring me please good fakers, always attacked by you victims is sometimes less fun then possible , i need a challenge ...
when have i supported FractaFreak??? you liar
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