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  • #8,461
  • Nov 14, 2018 2:17pm Nov 14, 2018 2:17pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} but you know, that fractalreak started this fraud by telling, broker are bad and dont want best for traders (and is correct with pure marketmaker brokers), and same time he tell they show stop order trades to the clients and so let them win (because with this information you win 95%)... thats what fractalfreak tell the people and want sell. thats crazy! you have brokers who give awqay informations with what you easy win, really? really realy?? no broker would do this... they would simple trade for their own with this informations, they give...

Dukas ,


Let take it to the source for the so called idiot newbies like myself.
Let's try at least.
  • #8,462
  • Nov 14, 2018 2:24pm Nov 14, 2018 2:24pm
Quoting HUZee
{quote} Dukas , Let take it to the source for the so called idiot newbies like myself. Let's try at least.
Hi Huzee,

Herein lies the problem with communicating with Fractal... Everything Dukas just wrote is the truth.

That's exactly how the market works .prrtao pertaining to what he just said . It's correct.

So the problem Huzee is that FractalFreak has a serious problem with telling the truth.

It's hard to talk with a proven deceiver or liar.

But Let's try and start the dialogue...

My question to Fractalfreak is this.

Are you FractalFreakx on mql5 forum?

Very simple ... Yes or No
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #8,463
  • Nov 14, 2018 2:29pm Nov 14, 2018 2:29pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} Hi Huzee, Herein lies the problem with communicating with Fractal... Everything Dukas just wrote is the truth. That's exactly how the market works .prrtao pertaining to what he just said . It's correct. So the problem Huzee is that FractalFreak has a serious problem with telling the truth. It's hard to talk with a proven deceiver or liar. But Let's try and start the dialogue... My question to Fractalfreak is this. Are you FractalFreakx on mql5 forum? Very simple ... Yes or No
Thankyou , blue Steele

I've asked him to unban you .
Maybe when he does you can ask directly .
I'm think we also need a mediator.
I think Andres would be brilliant at it.
  • #8,464
  • Nov 14, 2018 2:39pm Nov 14, 2018 2:39pm
Quoting HUZee
{quote} Thankyou , blue Steele I've asked him to unban you . Maybe when he does you can ask directly . I'm think we also need a mediator. I think Andres would be brilliant at it.
but thinlk about,

fractalfreak know he is a faker and fraud starter and he cant answer any question about this fake... impossible. he only fake stories around all, but any experienced trader see this and know what to ask so this story explodes.... why do you think 100% of the experienced traders are complete banned from fractalfreaks thread? all who would be honest and ask the correct question have to go , because fractalfreak cant answer it, when he answer fair he looks as fake , when he dont answer correct it would be easy to see, so he dont answer at all and write many many posts so this question ar hided in many many other text postes from him....

i asked him many question on beginning, then he did run away after lost any discussion (because he was on the border to look total exposed with his answers) and was never seen again and he started faking stories about me, so he could a little bit faked describe why he run away and dont looked to much like a idiot for believers who dont like to read in the scammer thread and the fractalfreak exposer thread.

so your chnace, that a faker (who know he fakes) will talk to people , who know what to ask to see his fakes... is not very high. we have all seen his fraud before so many times, and know by construction of the market it cant work and thats 100% sure... noone would believe it can work, or this person did not learn the basics, its so easy fact... there is no other opinion possible, because its a 100% sure fact (in this topic). why people make trading so difficult, learn whats possible and whats not possible, and you see very easy the fast, this style is not possible in forex.
  • #8,465
  • Nov 14, 2018 3:04pm Nov 14, 2018 3:04pm
Quoting HUZee
{quote} Hi , Are we ready for dialogue???,, Huzee
I must say you have extremely good mediator skills. You really opened a door when it seemed impossible. Congrats

It will be a lot of fun

Fractal, take a big breath...here we gooooo
On ignore list of scammers, deceivers and low IQ individuals. Exclusively
  • #8,466
  • Nov 14, 2018 4:14pm Nov 14, 2018 4:14pm
Quoting bfx17
{quote} I must say you have extremely good mediator skills. You really opened a door when it seemed impossible. Congrats It will be a lot of fun Fractal, take a big breath...here we gooooo

Ok Guys ,
When will he be un-baned ??

bfx17

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
  • #8,467
  • Nov 14, 2018 4:26pm Nov 14, 2018 4:26pm
Quoting HUZee
{quote} Ok Guys , When will he be un-baned ?? bfx17 It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
you really believe in this , or?

fractalfreak had many month time in this thread, and did not answer the important question many asked him, not one!
he simple did answer question what was easy to fake, the rest he never answered, so this will happen same again.

he cant different, all his fraud is on extrem poor basic, any question crashes the whole building.... so you will see it will come to same..

all did say him, when he start again trading contest, he will lose very fast.. what he did, he started and lost after some hours with margin call his trading contest....
its always same, you can predict fractlafreak will never ever answer all question... because cant without being honest and this would kill the fraud....

so to be logic, its impossible that he can answer,... life is so easy... trading is so easy... the chances that he changed and say "ok, now i dont fake anymore and stop the fraud and start being honest and dont write fake post about himself and others and fake strategy" are to small, really. all what you do is big honour, but total useless, becasue fractalfreak had this chance already a long time and he decided to repeat his fraud and dont say the truth all the time .... and will do same like before.. attacking and dont answering the important questions (remember me!)...... and having trade explorer is not this important when he would not fake any of his trades (without entry price, time, TP, SL, fakes exits later, when he know already all prices and past chart moves...)...
  • #8,468
  • Nov 14, 2018 4:42pm Nov 14, 2018 4:42pm
You know I have to say that Dukas is correct.
Fractalfreak has avoided all questions and answers.
Furthermore not only has he avoided answering he just outright lies.

And you simply can't trust a liar like fractalfreak I'm afraid that's the truth.

But if this charade is to continue. I will offer a very easy solution.

Why don't you @huzee he start a thread and there you go anybody can participate.

Then the whole issue of who's going to unban who and who can say what that problem solved just an open dialogue.
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #8,469
  • Nov 14, 2018 4:47pm Nov 14, 2018 4:47pm
Quoting bluesteele
You know I have to say that Dukas is correct. Fractalfreak has avoided all questions and answers. Furthermore not only has he avoided answering he just outright lies. And you simply can't trust a liar like fractalfreak I'm afraid that's the truth. But if this charade is to continue. I will offer a very easy solution. Why don't you @huzee he start a thread and there you go anybody can participate. Then the whole issue of who's going to unban who and who can say what that problem solved just an open dialogue.
Bluesteele,

Brilliant idea.
I'll call it open dialogue.
  • #8,470
  • Nov 14, 2018 4:48pm Nov 14, 2018 4:48pm
Quoting bluesteele
You know I have to say that Dukas is correct. Fractalfreak has avoided all questions and answers. Furthermore not only has he avoided answering he just outright lies. And you simply can't trust a liar like fractalfreak I'm afraid that's the truth. But if this charade is to continue. I will offer a very easy solution. Why don't you @huzee he start a thread and there you go anybody can participate. Then the whole issue of who's going to unban who and who can say what that problem solved just an open dialogue.
yes...most simple solution, and remember the truth:
fractalfreak banned from some first posts all intelligent advanced traders in his thread, who did know that he started a fraud and asked about... he had not one argument against this, without saying " go out, the community dont want you", and same time he is the only member of his community.....

in this thread fractalfreak was not banned many many many weeks, and then he started going crazy, did not answer any real important question and did make spam marketing here and did attack for nothing and even created fake stories about other people, thatshwy he was banned.... so for a real reason. remember fractalfreak never bans for real reasons, he bans only because other people could read about his fraud inside his thread and because people asked to intelligent question he could never answered correct without looking unexperienced or as fake....
  • #8,471
  • Nov 14, 2018 4:59pm Nov 14, 2018 4:59pm
Once you have seen so many scammers over the years, you spot them right from the beginning of their thread. Actually they use quite the same pattern. I have rarely seen some sophisticated scammer, a real scam artist even providing a profitable TE...lol... But the newbies don't know and are easy preys. Most of the time, they start by defending them, really thinking they have found the Messiah who will make them rich...

For the most obvious one, Forex Factory staff put them in the Commercial section as soon as their hidden agenda becomes obvious to them, but sometimes, for some reasons, some stay much longer in the Trading Systems forum or Trading Discussion, although it's obvious in my opinion, and they make a lot of damage.
Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping.
  • #8,472
  • Nov 14, 2018 7:44pm Nov 14, 2018 7:44pm
Quoting HUZee
{quote} Thankyou , blue Steele I've asked him to unban you . Maybe when he does you can ask directly . I'm think we also need a mediator. I think Andres would be brilliant at it.
The real issue is not about ban/unban..in fact none of us have put him on ignore even we are all on his ignore list for reason so that we can't question and hold him to account for all his wild and frivolous claims. Some of his claims/lies are so blatant and delusional that I wouldn't even want to go near him with a ten foot pole. This demented man has absolutely no dignity and sense of shame that one will be tainted just to be near him.
My opinion is its impossible to have a productive and meaningful dialogue with such character who aim is to deceive and mislead. It's more a good vs evil thingy. Anyway he will disappear once if more people can see his true colour but bad news is these sort of scumbags will advertently return with new identity and the plot start all over again. Good news is the good laughs and the idiotic entertainments he provided.

Hehe
  • #8,473
  • Nov 14, 2018 7:49pm Nov 14, 2018 7:49pm
Quoting genghistar
{quote} The real issue is not about ban/unban..in fact none of us have put him on ignore even we are all on his ignore list for reason so that we can't question and hold him to account for all his wild and frivolous claims. Some of his claims/lies are so blatant and delusional that I wouldn't even want to go near him with a ten foot pole. This demented man has absolutely no dignity and sense of shame that one will be tainted just to be near him. My opinion is its impossible to have a productive and meaningful dialogue with such character who aim...

Mmmm. Yea .. I agree
Fractals delusional...

Let him Hang his Evil Lying deceitful Ass.

Karma will run his ass over sooner or later...
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #8,474
  • Nov 14, 2018 9:52pm Nov 14, 2018 9:52pm
Quoting genghistar
{quote} The real issue is not about ban/unban..in fact none of us have put him on ignore even we are all on his ignore list for reason so that we can't question and hold him to account for all his wild and frivolous claims. Some of his claims/lies are so blatant and delusional that I wouldn't even want to go near him with a ten foot pole. This demented man has absolutely no dignity and sense of shame that one will be tainted just to be near him. My opinion is its impossible to have a productive and meaningful dialogue with such character who aim...
Genghistar,

All of your points aside , we all have a chance to directly address the points whatever they are to the source.
If you do not engage then FF will state and rightly so that you all refused, he was willing.

Look if Nelson Mandela , Ghandi , Martin luther king had this attitude of inevitability, change would never happen.
Come on guys let's just try.
  • #8,475
  • Nov 14, 2018 10:47pm Nov 14, 2018 10:47pm
Quoting HUZee
{quote} Genghistar, All of your points aside , we all have a chance to directly address the points whatever they are to the source. If you do not engage then FF will state and rightly so that you all refused, he was willing. Look if Nelson Mandela , Ghandi , Martin luther king had this attitude of inevitability, change would never happen. Come on guys let's just try.
Agreed my young friend Therefore the ONUS is on him to show repentance and willingness to right the wrong then we consider. But chances are slim becos he is delusional and a hardcore liar.

Hehe
  • #8,476
  • Edited 11:57pm Nov 14, 2018 11:44pm | Edited 11:57pm
HUZee,

My respect for you grows day by day. You're objective. You look at and respect facts. You ask yourself the right questions (this is a necessity for successful traders). You don't cheat yourself. And, above all, you THINK ! It's very hard for anyone to mislead you. I hope all traders are like you. But then, that's impossible, because in this game only less than 5% will be successful, no matter what threads/mentors/training programs traders follow.
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  • #8,477
  • Nov 15, 2018 12:41am Nov 15, 2018 12:41am
Mr. FractalFreak seems to be in a hurry to sign the peace with us.

Calm calm. After a hard war it takes time to sign the peace treaty. And like any peace, it will be subject to accurate conditions .

And the wounds take a long time to heal.
  • #8,478
  • Nov 15, 2018 1:07am Nov 15, 2018 1:07am
Quoting redoktober
Mr. FractalFreak seems to be in a hurry to sign the peace with us. Calm calm. After a hard war it takes time to sign the peace treaty. And like any peace, it will be subject to accurate conditions . And the wounds take a long time to heal.
RedoKtober,

Conditions please .
  • #8,479
  • Nov 15, 2018 1:33am Nov 15, 2018 1:33am
Quoting HUZee
{quote} RedoKtober, Conditions please .
I appreciate your efforts Huzee , but as I have already said , calm , calm ...
Hurry is a bad advisor.
  • #8,480
  • Nov 15, 2018 1:34am Nov 15, 2018 1:34am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} I appreciate your efforts Huzee , but as I have already said , calm , calm ... Hurry is a bad advisor.
Redoktober

You're right .
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