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  • #46,941
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:24am Sep 26, 2018 2:24am
Quoting suthmo
There's no proof news is effecting anyting, but it's a great way to waste time waiting for wave principle to do what it always does. I"ve never seen proof that news moves markets. I'd love to see it.
True
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  • #46,942
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:26am Sep 26, 2018 2:26am
Quoting Pollen
{quote} Buy scalp on EU https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post11517041 {image}
Wait for the break at least.
It will be rangebound all day imo.
You have 1.17737 and 1.17900 for ressistence
yes yes yes
  • #46,943
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:26am Sep 26, 2018 2:26am
Short 1.1775, SL: 40 pips TP: 1.1735,
Happy Trading
Trades technical moves enforced by fundamentals
  • #46,944
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:28am Sep 26, 2018 2:28am
Quoting Pollen
{quote} Buy scalp on EU https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post11517041 {image}

does that trendline pro ma repaint? it reminds me of a cross of gann hi/lo and psar
buy the rumor,sell the news
  • #46,945
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:28am Sep 26, 2018 2:28am
IN these sideways conditions untill FED decision i will play sideways i will wait to price come here up and short it
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  • #46,946
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:30am Sep 26, 2018 2:30am
Quoting suthmo
{quote} A million clams to anyone who can prove conclusively that news moves markets. Need to show track record of calling every move every day for two months and do this three or four times. Show how the waves would have played out and how the news altered that. Maybe back it up with some wave theory how the wave pattern would have played out then show me how ANY news effected the outcome. Open challenge to everyone and anyone, prove to me that news effects markets other than rocking waves 30 pips up and down during NFP.
That 30-50pips rocking up or down is what makes it deadly because most times it rips SLs and wipes Profits. Sometimes it fastens move to TP targets. However because of its unpredictability, it's advisable to avoid it. Some love it though.
I'm for pure TA.
  • #46,947
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:33am Sep 26, 2018 2:33am
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  • #46,948
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:35am Sep 26, 2018 2:35am
Quoting wasntme
{quote} does that trendline pro ma repaint? it reminds me of a cross of gann hi/lo and psar
And the super trand indi.
All the same.
I like the macd zero line cross.
All base on 50 sma that way or another
yes yes yes
  • #46,949
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:36am Sep 26, 2018 2:36am
Quoting Donwealt
{quote} That 30-50pips rocking up or down is what makes it deadly because most times it rips SLs and wipes Profits. Sometimes it fastens move to TP targets. However because of its unpredictability, it's advisable to avoid it. Some love it though. I'm for pure TA.
It's deadly if your over leaveraged otherwise it doesnt matter a hoot. I don't find 50 points deadly. Years ago I had a long running on the dow during fat finger it dropped just over 1000 pips my position I'd been in the trade less than a minute so hadn't set my stops and limits. It recovered all the losses in less than 5 mins but that was what I would call deadly.
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  • #46,950
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:37am Sep 26, 2018 2:37am
Hi Guys, My question might be funny. excuse it. What will happen to EUR if FED rate increased? go down or up or already factored in it with current price movement.?

but no proper straight answer in google. As I know it has multiple combinations like bond, GDP etc.
  • #46,951
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:39am Sep 26, 2018 2:39am
Bearish wedge forming in price and RSI on D1 chart. Something will break soon. The RSI should break first giving us a hint.

You never know, but this looks bearish to me. If it breaks on the low side, the target would de 1.1300 again.

There is also a bearish divergence on H1 RSI but that carries less weight.
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  • #46,952
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:40am Sep 26, 2018 2:40am
Quoting post
Short 1.1775, SL: 40 pips TP: 1.1735, Happy Trading
Good call and even better entry! Nicely done dude
You hesitate, you masturbate.
  • #46,953
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:41am Sep 26, 2018 2:41am
Quoting post
Short 1.1775, SL: 40 pips TP: 1.1735, Happy Trading
closed 25% at 1.1763, SL moved to BE.
Trades technical moves enforced by fundamentals
  • #46,954
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:43am Sep 26, 2018 2:43am
Quoting thakasi
Hi Guys, My question might be funny. excuse it. What will happen to EUR if FED rate increased? go down or up or already factored in it with current price movement.? but no proper straight answer in google. As I know it has multiple combinations like bond, GDP etc.
Other than some good price gyrations at the annc ,, it would be factored in ,, its whats said or not said in the statement that could cause some longer term positioning ,, which will still take place at sup or res levels ,, my 2 cents
  • #46,955
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:44am Sep 26, 2018 2:44am
Quoting suthmo
{quote}Is that a fact or oppinion and can you produce 1 shred of evidence to back those claims? Show me. The data is an idealized concept. For instance unemployment claims based on the number of new claimants and nothing to do with the total number of people out of work.
The last time Trump talked about his dislike for rate hike (sometime in July... 20/21 or thereabout), market changed direction swiftly and maintained that direction for a full week.

Expectedly you will go to higher TF and use subjective wave analysis to say otherwise. Good luck with that.

That's enough proof. Send me your prize
  • #46,956
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:52am Sep 26, 2018 2:52am
Quoting rattyo
{quote} It's deadly if your over leaveraged otherwise it doesnt matter a hoot. I don't find 50 points deadly. Years ago I had a long running on the dow during fat finger it dropped just over 1000 pips my position I'd been in the trade less than a minute so hadn't set my stops and limits. It recovered all the losses in less than 5 mins but that was what I would call deadly.
Yea.
  • #46,957
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:52am Sep 26, 2018 2:52am
Quoting Donwealt
{quote} The last time Trump talked about his dislike for rate hike (sometime in July... 20/21 or thereabout), market changed direction swiftly and maintained that direction for a full week. Expectedly you will go to higher TF and use subjective wave analysis to say otherwise. Good luck with that.
You see, it's always wise NEVER to argue when people have made up their minds about something. You can't convince them otherwise.

When the SNB pulled the plug on their currency cap, USDCHF fell almost 2 thousand pips. How about Brexit news making GBP fly or fall over 200 pips in two 15mins candle? How about Trump and his Twitter rants, Draghi often throws down the Euro... There are countless examples.

The more sensible thing to say is that news may not change the overall move of the market, because the whole news move is soon reversed to follow the previous trend. However, to me, if an announcement moves a pair over 100pips it has affected the market, hitting stops and TPs which otherwise may not have been hit in such order or sequence.
  • #46,958
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:56am Sep 26, 2018 2:56am
Quoting Donwealt
{quote} The last time Trump talked about his dislike for rate hike (sometime in July... 20/21 or thereabout), market changed direction swiftly and maintained that direction for a full week. Expectedly you will go to higher TF and use subjective wave analysis to say otherwise. Good luck with that. That's enough proof. Send me your prize
Would say my ole friend is referring more to the same ole annc that come every month,,,, which he is right about ,, one out of the blue is a different story ,,, chf depegging comes to mind ,, especially since it was done on a weekend .,,those kind are mkt risks for sure
  • #46,959
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:58am Sep 26, 2018 2:58am
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} You see, it's always wise NEVER to argue when people have made up their minds about something. You can't convince them otherwise. When the SNB pulled the plug on their currency cap, USDCHF fell almost 2 thousand pips. How about Brexit news making GBP fly or fall over 200 pips in two 15mins candle? How about Trump and his Twitter rants, Draghi often throws down the Euro... There are countless examples. The more sensible thing to say is that news may not change the overall move of the market, because the whole news move is soon reversed to...
well said ,,,,, its the volatility one needs to trade ,, thats what the news gives,,pushes thing to a level where stps reside just past which if tripped provide more fuel to go even farther etc etc ,,, thats trading ,,chess match
  • #46,960
  • Sep 26, 2018 2:58am Sep 26, 2018 2:58am
this news moving or not moving charts is a fake debate or just a plain semantic issue

News will accelerate wave structure. If you have 12345 as a wave structure (labeling differs per methods) and you get news while chart is in 2 (correction), well it can finish the 2 and starts on a 3 impulse (and that explains some of the whipsaw you see during news) and maybe even be done with 3 or make it an overextended move. In general, one kind of have an idea of what would happen should charts move during news but structure can surprise you and do something different (ie extend a correction into a more elaborate pattern etc)

So you guys are all correct, yes markets react to news, and news fuel the wave structure and assist in its unfolding.

News are an intrinsic factor in the market matrix.

and I have to tie this post to EURUSD lol lol so here it goes:

Right now the lobby OKshop named (love it) is a correction for supposedly a final impulse up (where would this impulse start and where it will end?...it will probably be decided tomorrow) right now we are making an ever complex correction one can only scalp. So there! this post is not so out of context lol lol
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