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  • #45,961
  • Sep 22, 2018 3:49am Sep 22, 2018 3:49am
Quoting fontu
{quote} go trendline properties> go parameters > uncheck ray
Unfortunately it does not keep unchecked as a setting so I have to do it every time. No biggy I guess, but I have trouble adjusting the length to stop at the 54 lwma line. I move it that way to start with and find I've changed the angle a bit and when I reset the angle the length goes back to a ray. All good fun.

But if you position the mouse over the price info on the right hand side of the chart and hold down the left mouse button and then drag up or down, the vertical scale of the chart changes. See how the outcome changes how price crosses an angled trendline.

Thanks for your interest, I hope I'm not the only one seeing an issue with this. Just wondering how Ata-Turkoglu or others handle it.
Good Trading
  • #45,962
  • Edited 5:05am Sep 22, 2018 4:23am | Edited 5:05am
Quoting Dingoman-two
"No More secrets folks" "It's all here" 'More to come" 'Three pages in all" 'ENJOY' {file} {file} {file}{file} {file} {file} {file} {file} {file} {file}
U can also get it here 54 pages

https://www.mql5.com/en/code/mt4/indicators

EU charts here
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  • #45,963
  • Edited 7:34am Sep 22, 2018 5:42am | Edited 7:34am
On the MetaTrader 5 platform you can go to Insert » Indicators and you have 59 indicators you can insert below or onto your Price Chart directly. No downloading required. I suppose you can do more or less the same on the MetaTrader 4 platform.
Only real values: Valid rules, discipline and experience.
  • #45,964
  • Sep 22, 2018 7:53am Sep 22, 2018 7:53am
Trade war woes
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  • #45,965
  • Sep 22, 2018 8:09am Sep 22, 2018 8:09am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
The reason why I cut my trendlines until Green line is the mentality to adapt! The green line is no joke to me. Often, especially when market is trending then yes, not using extensions of trendlines might hurt.. but once trade suddenly changes it will also become your savior.. Therefore one must master to stick to the core logic to quickly adapt to conditions by prioritizing switching to RED TL and to BLUE TL according to green line situation! But then we also must learn to multitask to check how those trendlines would interfere with candles when...

Thanks for the chart and advice. I looked in to your trading strategy documents, but don't know one thing...Wich moving average do you use and do you mainly use trendlines and movingaverage in your tradingstrategy? Also I would like to know the timeframe...I'm on the 15 M chart. I'm trading in MT5 and use trendlines and bollingerbands. Looking for the right indicators to trade....
  • #45,966
  • Sep 22, 2018 8:10am Sep 22, 2018 8:10am
Quoting aud
{quote} Unfortunately it does not keep unchecked as a setting so I have to do it every time. No biggy I guess, but I have trouble adjusting the length to stop at the 54 lwma line. I move it that way to start with and find I've changed the angle a bit and when I reset the angle the length goes back to a ray. All good fun. But if you position the mouse over the price info on the right hand side of the chart and hold down the left mouse button and then drag up or down, the vertical scale of the chart changes. See how the outcome changes how price crosses...
I hear your concern.. I will explain in all detail on the new thread that I will create soon.. Still working on drawing detailed chart explanations around all the questions that keep coming.. A little bit more patience please.. (For now I suggest: don't play with scale.. double click on the price bar so that it resets to default.. then draw your trendlines as close as you can mimic to mine.. (don't use angled trendlines, use normal trendlines)! After you have you finished drawing one trendline that looks to be correct you can squeeze the scale of your chart afterwards because it will not matter anymore since you will clone all the new ones from that first trendline you have created with standard scale.

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #45,967
  • Sep 22, 2018 8:14am Sep 22, 2018 8:14am
Hello friends, it's the weekend, so the best time to revise the plan.

I've been having hard time finding Ata's red/blue trendline angles. I went through the whole thread and the pdf files, but I still think that I'm missing something.
I use alternative approach for these lines,, it provides signal but not as specific as Ata's.
I tried the ZUP indicator, but with no success.
There has to be an angle to follow because these lines are drawn from one candle only.

So would appreciate the help..

Thank you in advance!
  • #45,968
  • Sep 22, 2018 8:32am Sep 22, 2018 8:32am
Quoting Mourad
Hello friends, it's the weekend, so the best time to revise the plan. I've been having hard time finding Ata's red/blue trendline angles. I went through the whole thread and the pdf files, but I still think that I'm missing something. I use alternative approach for these lines,, it provides signal but not as specific as Ata's. I tried the ZUP indicator, but with no success. There has to be an angle to follow because these lines are drawn from one candle only. So would appreciate the help.. Thank you in advance!
I just sent you a PM but anyway you took it onto the thread. Here is the same answer I gave to you via private message:

*****************************
Very soon I will explain everything in the most easiest way. There will be nobody left who doesn't understand. A little more patience please!

Until then don't use angled trendlines as clones. Do this:

  1. Make your chart full screen. I mean as big as it gets. And don't narrow candles with squeezing scale. Keep it in default scale (double clicking on price area will reset the chart scale). Because I want to have as many candles as it gets on my screen with natural size so that the overall chart proportions don't get distorted.
  2. Create an angled trendline with 33.3 degrees for BLUE (and -33.3 degrees for RED) to use them as an example (as a template).
  3. Then draw a normal trendline parallel to it. So that your normal trendline actually has the exact same angle. That is the trick!
  4. Once you are done, simply use the normal trendline for all your future clonings and delete the angled trendline.

Once you have done everything in a correct way and at least one RED and one BLUE Trendline is created on your chart, it will not matter if you make your chart window smaller or play with scale or whatever window size you prefer. Angles will be always correct. I hope it helps.

******************************

Stay Green

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  • #45,969
  • Sep 22, 2018 8:39am Sep 22, 2018 8:39am
Thank you Ata, I thought you would never get a chance to reply to my pm because I suspected that you have tons of pm's

Thank you again
  • #45,970
  • Sep 22, 2018 8:54am Sep 22, 2018 8:54am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} I just sent you a PM but anyway you took it onto the thread. Here is the same answer I gave to you via private message: ***************************** Very soon I will explain everything in the most easiest way. There will be nobody left who doesn't understand. A little more patience please! Until then don't use angled trendlines as clones. Do this: Make your chart full screen. I mean as big as it gets. And don't narrow candles with squeezing scale. Keep it in default scale (double clicking on price area will reset the chart scale). Because...
God bless this man for the time he takes each day to help people on this thread. I really mean this, and I believe many more are praying for you. More life and pips to you.
  • #45,971
  • Sep 22, 2018 9:12am Sep 22, 2018 9:12am
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} God bless this man for the time he takes each day to help people on this thread. I really mean this, and I believe many more are praying for you. More life and pips to you.
I have benefitted immensely from this thread, up to this response by Ata to your PM. Thanks to you too for sharing the response with the thread.
  • #45,972
  • Sep 22, 2018 9:52am Sep 22, 2018 9:52am
Im not gonna take away from a few who helped me when I 1st started in this trading racket back in the day ,,but for those who are just starting out or ones who been around a while with out much success I aint gonna beat around the bush ,,, grab on with both hands because you are not going to know how priceless the methodology is or the finesse of what is being freely and tirelessly given here till years down the road . This level of tutoring or mentoring what ever the f*&k you want to call it does not come around often with the only cost being paying attention or attempting to implement it by setting up a few charts and following along . I know something like this would have saved me years of trail and error back in the day. I wouldnt trade what I went thru but info like this would have saved and shaved a bunch of time off the learning curve ... Dukes up traders ,,mkts will be open again in 31 hours lol
  • #45,973
  • Sep 22, 2018 10:12am Sep 22, 2018 10:12am
Quoting wasntme
{quote} maybe we can collate his isms into a book kind of like sun tzu's art of war. we can call it art of trading. if we must we can even give him a royalty from the sales i even know a retired music executive that can write the contract so all we'll have to kick back is a nickle per book sold
Not a bad idea!!
I think books though are old school and quasi obsolete at this point
I am thinking youtube channel with themed videos..a bit of fancy shmanzy presentation to the ideas, cute funny illustration of his idea (think a cartoonish illustration of Socrates with a toga spewing wisdoms...and ata looking at him getting inspired by the simplicity of it all ....lol lol....ideas germinating in turn in Ata's head)
followed by a real on the chart example of the idea as previously illustrated on a serious tone to provide contrast....
Audience could be of all ages and all expertise levels
Oy..I can write pages on this... lol lol.but i hope you got my concept


All this with the person concerned ...just reading and watching...all decisions are ours lol lol lol

Happy weekend all!!
  • #45,974
  • Sep 22, 2018 10:23am Sep 22, 2018 10:23am
Quoting wasntme
{quote} maybe we can collate his isms into a book kind of like sun tzu's art of war. we can call it art of trading. if we must we can even give him a royalty from the sales i even know a retired music executive that can write the contract so all we'll have to kick back is a nickle per book sold
I do believe Ata has already addressed people collecting his work for redistribution, and would prefer that you leave it to him.

"I am aware of that.. To be honest, I hadn't even planned to reveal so much information around my system so that it becomes thick like a novel. Everything happened so quick. I said many things.. people started to get curious and you guys collected the posts into a PDF.. all good.. but actually this is not what I have dreamed of. The only way to fix this is a PDF written by me personally or the video tutorials. Please do nothing more from here on. Just be patient.. Thanks..

Stay Green"
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  • #45,975
  • Sep 22, 2018 10:35am Sep 22, 2018 10:35am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} I just sent you a PM but anyway you took it onto the thread. Here is the same answer I gave to you via private message: ***************************** Very soon I will explain everything in the most easiest way. There will be nobody left who doesn't understand. A little more patience please! Until then don't use angled trendlines as clones. Do this: Make your chart full screen. I mean as big as it gets. And don't narrow candles with squeezing scale. Keep it in default scale (double clicking on price area will reset the chart scale). Because...
This is an other good lesson. one thing need to ask when i draw the angled trend line(-33.3) on the chart its angle get changed automatically to 326.7 degree it it the valid trend line and would be treated as -33.3 degree line.

thanks
regards
MRMALIK1
  • #45,976
  • Sep 22, 2018 10:38am Sep 22, 2018 10:38am
I've always been using EA's, because I liked the idea that I will make the decision once [while coding it] and the EA takes it from there, but no much success.
The 1st time to trade manually was using Ata's system, although I used some different angles, but it yielded profits.

What amazes me is the level of his patience and speed to post while trading, and answering pm's

All for free
  • #45,977
  • Sep 22, 2018 10:39am Sep 22, 2018 10:39am
Quoting mrmalik1
{quote} This is an other good lesson. one thing need to ask when i draw the angled trend line(-33.3) on the chart its angle get changed automatically to 326.7 degree it it the valid trend line and would be treated as -33.3 degree line. thanks regards
Lol.. I think you slept during "Geometry" class when the "angle theory" was discussed. 360 degrees - 33.3 = 326.7

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #45,978
  • Sep 22, 2018 10:40am Sep 22, 2018 10:40am
Quoting mrmalik1
{quote} This is an other good lesson. one thing need to ask when i draw the angled trend line(-33.3) on the chart its angle get changed automatically to 326.7 degree it it the valid trend line and would be treated as -33.3 degree line. thanks regards
If you are changing the parameters of the angled trendline from inside its properties window, then you can set it to [-33.3] but if you are specifying the angle manually by rotating the angled trendline, then you say [360-33.3]
  • #45,979
  • Sep 22, 2018 10:46am Sep 22, 2018 10:46am
Quoting NovaFX
{quote} I do believe Ata has already addressed people collecting his work for redistribution, and would prefer that you leave it to him. "I am aware of that.. To be honest, I hadn't even planned to reveal so much information around my system so that it becomes thick like a novel. Everything happened so quick. I said many things.. people started to get curious and you guys collected the posts into a PDF.. all good.. but actually this is not what I have dreamed of. The only way to fix this is a PDF written by me personally or the video tutorials....
I agree with him...I am the same way...it is a creative task and it is soooo fun to do!! it should never be taken away from an individual unless he or she delegates it

I was just pushing a joke Wasntme started.

Thanks NovaFx for stressing Ata's point...that quote should be pasted in the first post of the thread so no new readers get such ideas again.

....and the quote should be followed by this comment from Ata:
" Yes yes I love youuuu yes yes I appreciate youuuuu thanks for your good intentions but...stay the hell out of my intellectual property!!!!"
  • #45,980
  • Sep 22, 2018 10:59am Sep 22, 2018 10:59am
Quoting kayikayi
{quote} I agree with him...I am the same way...it is a creative task and it is soooo fun to do!! it should never be taken away from an individual unless he or she delegates it I was just pushing a joke Wasntme started. Thanks NovaFx for stressing Ata's point...that quote should be pasted in the first post of the thread so no new readers get such ideas again. ....and the quote should be followed by this comment from Ata: " Yes yes I love youuuu yes yes I appreciate youuuuu thanks for your good intentions but...stay the hell out of my intellectual...
Haha, yes I figured you guys were just joking around probably, but you never know and there are many people coming into the forum that are likely not scrolling back to read through the thousands of pages containing all his posts. For this reason some messages need to be repeated. I only hope that Ata does not take offense to me interjecting on his behalf, my only intention is to save him some time as I see him generously repeating himself and expounding on the same ideas to newcomers almost daily. Love this thread and the enthusiasm from everyone who contributes, easily #1 on all of FF. Thank you for all your hard work Ata.
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