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The Many Flavors of Trend Following

It's quite nice for a change to hear the interviewer being interviewed.

Some quality content and considerations for the trend followers amongst us. Notably the need for patience and a long term view.

Listen here

Cheers

C
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  • Sep 4, 2018 11:26am Sep 4, 2018 11:26am
Quoting Copernicus
The Many Flavors of Trend Following It's quite nice for a change to hear the interviewer being interviewed. Some quality content and considerations for the trend followers amongst us. Notably the need for patience and a long term view. Listen here Cheers C
thanks C, very nice interview.
Price itself it's an indicator
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some great songs C, I definitely have to save these:



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Since you like trance and house, here's my contribution!!


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for the drunk idiots out there hahahahah
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Music maestro

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the good old 90s lol

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Quoting HeyYou
Music maestro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ZTfXqybFI the good old 90s lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J453r3y58EM
Keep em' coming H. Nice sets mate :-)
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Quoting thomasK
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Lol. How true:-)
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Branch of trade has turned into a thread about music?!? Let's go back to trading? Anything new? What are the achievements??
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  • Sep 5, 2018 11:55pm Sep 5, 2018 11:55pm
Quoting robomaster
Branch of trade has turned into a thread about music?!? Let's go back to trading? Anything new? What are the achievements??
Sorry mate. I didn't think I was here to entertain you.
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The Context of the Financial Markets post GFC

Disaster Is Inevitable When America's Stock Market Bubble Bursts

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  • Sep 6, 2018 4:11am Sep 6, 2018 4:11am
Quoting robomaster
Branch of trade has turned into a thread about music?!? Let's go back to trading? Anything new? What are the achievements??
WE ARE trading.
And having fun at the same time.
As far as trading systems, methods etc is concerned, this thread has already amazing information.
For sure from time to time some thoughts or ideas are going to be added but I dont think (sorry C I dont mean to speak on your behalf), one should expect them on a daily basis

tk
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Quoting robomaster
... Anything new? ...
in trading there is nothing new under the sun, human behaviour is the same today like it was 100's years ago. now what lesson have you learned from this trader?

Victor Niederhoffer: "In both cases I was in over my head. I didn't have the capital to be strong enough to provide a backup in the case of unforeseen events. I didn't have a proper foundation. I was playing with adversaries who were stronger than me and who actually made the rules. My base of operations was not diversified enough, and I was vulnerable to forces I couldn't withstand. I was too vainglorious.

I thought that because my method worked in markets that I knew about and had quantified, I could apply the same methods to something I didn't know about. And I had as an example [George] Soros, who would always say, "I made the most money in things I don't know about".

I still think that the crash of Oct. 27, 1997, was basically due to brokers running my position against me, knowing that I was on the ropes. The market had its greatest drop in the previous 10 years that day. And then the next day, once they were able to force me out, it went up more than it dropped.
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If we Don't Believe Markets are "Efficient", What do we Believe?

Some good insights from Winton derived from an "ecology inspired alternative".
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Quoting Copernicus
{quote} The hyenas are circling. It would be a damn shame to see vision bested by material greed and envy....buy hey....that's life....well at least that's what people say. :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRoI1BC32jQ
Elon Musk has definitely lost his mojo; smoking marijuana on live radio !!!

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-live-web-show

The stop price has now tanked from $380 to $250. Looks like short sellers are winning. Damn Wall Street !!!!!

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Quoting alphadude
{quote} Elon Musk has definitely lost his mojo; smoking marijuana on live radio !!! https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-live-web-show The stop price has now tanked from $380 to $250. Looks like short sellers are winning. Damn Wall Street !!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDD1tW59Mjg

The piranhas usually end up as fish bait A...... but unfortunately they certainly get their day thrashing around and causing mayhem. A short seller is sueing Musk at the moment as the poor fella f**cked up his timing when Musk was a bit vague on whether or not he would go private again.
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  • Sep 7, 2018 10:37am Sep 7, 2018 10:37am
Quoting robomaster
Branch of trade has turned into a thread about music?!? Let's go back to trading? Anything new? What are the achievements??
what about this guy, what can you learn from him and victor?

soros: "My peculiarity is that I don't have a particular style of investing or, more exactly, I try to change my style to fit the conditions."

"I recognize that I may be wrong. This makes me insecure. My sense of insecurity keeps me alert, always ready to correct my errors. I do this on two levels. On the abstract level, I have turned the belief in my own fallibility into the cornerstone of an elaborate philosophy. On a personal level, I am a very critical person who looks for defects in myself as well a in others. But, being so critical, I am also quite forgiving. I couldn't recognize my mistakes if I couldn't forgive myself. To others, being wrong is a source of shame; to me, recognizing my mistakes is a source of pride. Once we realize that imperfect understanding is human condition, there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to corect our mistakes."

As I told you before, I work with investment hypotheses. I watch whether the actual course of events corresponds to my expectations. If not, I realize that I am on the wrong track. According to my theory of initially self-reinforcing, but eventually self-defeating trends, the trend is your friend most of the way; trend followers only get hurt at inflection points, where the trend changes. Most of the times I am a trend follower, but all the time I aware that I am a member of a heard and that I am on the lookout for inflection points.

There are periods of choppy markets when my style of investing is worse than useless. I insist on formulating a thesis before I take a position. But it takes time to discover a rationale for a perceived trend in the market; and sometimes the market will reverse the trend just when I manage to formulate a theory justifying it. If it happens repeatedly, it can be devastating. I am good at riding the tide, but not the ripples of a swimming pool.

They cannot obtain perfect knowledge of the market because their thinking is always affecting the market and the market is affecting thei thinking.
Price itself it's an indicator
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