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Quoting Old_Dog
Wow - this is great! The best fun I've had with my clothes on for quite some time...... Thanks SF! . {image}
If you like it, I am happy. I'im on a phone now and it is kinda stupid to write in english like that, however you somehow achieved the same thing other way around. Clever. Guys anyone thinking this is the exactly same thing like I have, you are wrong. However Old_Dog actually gave me interesting idea because this can be even more precise than my indicator. As soon as possible I will check this on my computer. I will compare both ways of doing this and then we can together work on this and get some amazing result. Because if you guys understand, this works but I still see some blind spots which I don't like. I like perfect / simple things and this is one of those things.

But working together is always better. I hope everyone who like my idea will understand that sharing is a good thing.

By the way, for others asking for the indicator. I wanted to make some fixes in the code and make the code cleaner. I'm sorry that it takes so long. I'm still without a computer for 22 hours now. And plus the weater is awful in here. It's permanently 35°C outside and inside is not aby better so I apologize that I am so slow. I was just very happy that I could have time to write about this and share what I used for quite long time. So be ready we will all get there.
Quoting Old_Dog
{quote} Hello mate, Sure - no problem. I just plotted a displaced MA set to a Fib multiple of the ATR. Kinda like a Keltner displacement but just with a copy of the price. Actually, on closer inspection a few more things seemed to line up... Curious -- not sure why this works (if at all) but I am sure SF will tell us soon enough from his research. Kind regards, OD . {image}
Old Dog, you probably got one thing right. Good catch I must say. I wondered if someone will see it. And I mean this yellow horizontal line on your chart. Since you probably noticed that when the 'indicator' touched the price from below it acted like resistance (for the indicator) and real price touched the "secret" high and actually went down after that. It happens more often. Just like other things. Who knows what more is hidden from us. Maybe more people will see something that I missed.

We created another price - Above and below normal price chart - hidden from us on a clean chart. That can give us new support/resistance lines.

Continue like this and you will be making money like crazy. It can really give you an edge.
Quoting Old_Dog
Wow - this is great! The best fun I've had with my clothes on for quite some time...... Thanks SF! . {image}
tpl please....
Quoting SilentFather
{quote} If you like it, I am happy. I'im on a phone now and it is kinda stupid to write in english like that, however you somehow achieved the same thing other way around. Clever. Guys anyone thinking this is the exactly same thing like I have, you are wrong. However Old_Dog actually gave me interesting idea because this can be even more precise than my indicator. As soon as possible I will check this on my computer. I will compare both ways of doing this and then we can together work on this and get some amazing result. Because if you guys...
thanks you for your great work!!! its pretty cool!
Quoting SirViver
Hey guys, try this very simple method, and the magic blue indicator peaks seem to line up nice with the price chart. Just go to insert, indicators, envelopes, click the parameters tab enter period 1, shift 0, ma method simple, apply to typical price, deviation % 1.0, click the colors tab, change to dodger blue, dodger blue, put it on a 1hr chart, zoom out, and now you have the secret magic blue indicator. Have Fun! {image}
Thanks SirViver! Tried it. Works like a charm.
@SilentFather, is this the indicator you talk about?
Quoting SilentFather
{quote} Old Dog, you probably got one thing right. Good catch I must say. I wondered if someone will see it. And I mean this yellow horizontal line on your chart. Since you probably noticed that when the 'indicator' touched the price from below it acted like resistance (for the indicator) and real price touched the "secret" high and actually went down after that. It happens more often. Just like other things. Who knows what more is hidden from us. Maybe more people will see something that I missed. We created another price - Above and below normal...
Thanks SF

There is probably more to this than meets the eye and I suspect it is based on the properties of random walks.

(OK - I am well aware the market is NOT a true random walk in the Brownian (or Einsteinian) sense, but it is pretty close. Yes, I know there are "fat tails" blah blah blah but this is near enough for Government work).

A random walk is largely constrained by the conditional expectation of its own volatility, which is itself stochastic. In simple terms, show anyone a price chart with no labels and everyone will tell you it is a price chart. Why? Because price charts have a unique "look and feel" that is common to all assets and if they behaved differently, they would look different. But they don't

What we are producing by the "back door" I supect is the "iterated logarithm" of the walk. If you don't know what that is, read about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of...ated_logarithm. It basically gives the constraints on the envelope of a random walk. Which if you think about it, is all you ever need to make a lot of money in the markets.

Very, very nice stuff and I am very grateful to SilentFather for kindly bringing this to our attention. I have been a FF member for nearly 8 years and I post only rarely as the signal-to-noise ratio on FF is around -80dB. (ie 99% pure crap).

But occasionally a rare piece of true insight catches my attention and that makes it all worthwhile.

Kind regards,

OD

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Quoting Old_Dog
Wow - this is great! The best fun I've had with my clothes on for quite some time...... Thanks SF! . {image}
Am I crazy, or is this just a fibonacci:
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Quoting TheMaxx
{quote} Am I crazy, or is this just a fibonacci: {image}
... er, pretty much, yes. But with a rather interesting twist ATR and Fib are intimately connected (for obvious reasons...)

OD

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QUOTING THE mAXX

I tried hinting to SL about Fibonacci and gave a screen shot because I think Fibonacci (above anything else) is intrinsically linked to trading (amongst many other things).

However, keep the good work up and let's all get that added edge we need in the marketplace
Quoting TheMaxx
{quote} Am I crazy, or is this just a fibonacci: {image}
Another one. Clever! Also - You are correct. I realised it years back also, but I never found an edge there. Now I remember one but can't remember how I did it exactly. Hope I will remember. I saved few "memories" in pictures but I can't find those. Anyway there are few more things to check.

I will also show how you can "kind of" predict when/where price will reverse. It works kinda good but not best always. However if you get the S/R right, you will probably get this right, too.
Quoting Old_Dog
{quote} Thanks SF There is probably more to this than meets the eye and I suspect it is based on the properties of random walks. (OK - I am well aware the market is NOT a true random walk in the Brownian (or Einsteinian) sense, but it is pretty close. Yes, I know there are "fat tails" blah blah blah but this is near enough for Government work). A random walk is largely constrained by the conditional expectation of its own volatility, which is itself stochastic. In simple terms, show anyone a price chart with no labels and everyone will tell...
I will definitely read it. Also you are correct with the randomness. Funny thing is even when you toss a coin, you can get a "chart". Of course, he is not first who did the same thing. To wrap this up for now. The crap here is really annoying. I'm checking (Or checked) constantly the trading systems forums, and mostly you get those trading systems... crazy charts with 12 fancy (repainting) indicators all showing the same thing, lagging behind the price... Well I can't say I tried indicators too. But I realised later that if I want some indicator, I will use something that can show me signal before the trend/move etc... Not after. This is manual system but it works. Not always 100% but still, I have clean price. Yes I have bands above and below the price, but it is nothing compared to those crazy charts.

It is always nice to hear something good from good traders like You. Really gives me the power to continue because I can see that it can be something good or at least that I'm on good path. I will now check your way of doing these bands vs indi I got.

Ok after checking I can already see that those signals are not always same but they agree at some points. Interesting..
Indicator attached to the first post. Now it will be much better to share any ideas and examples. I also checked SirViver idea and you can get those bands, but it is not the same. You can check now. Best version is from Old Dog so far.
Quoting SilentFather
Indicator attached to the first post. Now it will be much better to share any ideas and examples. I also checked SirViver idea and you can get those bands, but it is not the same. You can check now. Best version is from Old Dog so far.
thanks a lot for sharing the indi SF. as the source code is not avaiable, do you know the ma modes avaiable (0,1,2,3) ? the number 2 as default stands for ?
Quoting guilherme
{quote} thanks a lot for sharing the indi SF. as the source code is not avaiable, do you know the ma modes avaiable (0,1,2,3) ? the number 2 as default stands for ?
I think this is correct

0 - simple
1 - exponential
2 - linear
3 - smoothed

If you trade like me, you'll be homeless and broke within a week.
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Quoting Erebus
{quote} I think this is correct 0 - simple 1 - exponential 2 - linear 3 - smoothed
tks Erebus. yeah it may be like MT4. just confirming.
Quoting TheMaxx
{quote} Am I crazy, or is this just a fibonacci: {image}
i swear god that fools and the posters with an incredible imagination to make new things from the same thing everyday are making me laugh daily, sometimes i cant even stop laughing


cya
Quoting llxx77dd
{quote} i swear god that fools and the posters with an incredible imagination to make new things from the same thing everyday are making me laugh daily, sometimes i cant even stop laughing cya
well.... letīs see :
- not even 1 year with FF
- 131 post, none of them is positive, no help, no cooperation
- started a thread with the name No Loss on it
- is subscribed to more then 20 threads
- made 3 posts in this thread wich clearly didnt believe

So you may ask : why the hell I keep reading this thread. or : why do I post here. or better : Do I laugh so much because I dont want to remeber what a sad person I am ?

Honestly..... people like you should leave this forum. you will be much happier away from here. trust me.
One thing is to alert people from possible scammers, sellers or things you know about.
Other thing is to always try to denigrate others to make the impression you are somebody.

@SilentFather , sorry for the "out of context" post.
can someone explain the logic of the indicator?
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Quoting guilherme
{quote} tks Erebus. yeah it may be like MT4. just confirming.
It should be SMA. New version will be better without those numbers. Since I lost the source to this mess I will make new one.
Quoting guilherme
{quote} well.... letīs see : - not even 1 year with FF - 131 post, none of them is positive, no help, no cooperation - started a thread with the name No Loss on it - is subscribed to more then 20 threads - made 3 posts in this thread wich clearly didnt believe So you may ask : why the hell I keep reading this thread. or : why do I post here. or better : Do I laugh so much because I dont want to remeber what a sad person I am ? Honestly..... people like you should leave this forum. you will be much happier away from here. trust me. One thing is to...
I kinda expected those to happen. It'ss nothing new. Anyway it does not matter if someone like it or not. Thing is this works. Sometimes not as good as I wants but it does. People can try and see. I'm not selling anything here.

Thing is that only few of us on the forum will really check it and use it. Or take something from it. Most people will go on other threads with nice trend following system using 10 same lagging indicators called probably "Fluttershy's Rainbow Trading system" and will be happily using it. Well lets end joking and start trading. Maybe he will stop trolling. Anyway less people using it, the better. At least our "noise" ratio will be low. As Old Dog have said.
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