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  • #6,901
  • Jul 15, 2018 7:59am Jul 15, 2018 7:59am
Quoting ThreeHalf
{quote} True, I see your logic. What I am saying is that there is no need to find one that exclusively serves the high networth segment. Just a thought.
Maybe. I can accept broker fuck me 10k but a PAMM account with a potential of +1M its something i dont want suffer. I was thinking Dukascopy or Swissquote as options too. But not much idea how reliable are. I only know both are banks offering FX services and dukas support MT4 now
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  • #6,902
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:01am Jul 15, 2018 8:01am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Maybe. I can accept broker fuck me 10k but a PAMM account with a potential of +1M its something i dont want suffer. I was thinking Dukascopy or Swissquote as options too. But not much idea how reliable are. I only know both are banks offering FX services
Not sure about Spanish banks, but in Asia (Hong Kong and Singapore), you can trade FX via banks as well. So yeah, you won't have to worry about them running away with your money.
  • #6,903
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:01am Jul 15, 2018 8:01am
Quoting ThreeHalf
{quote} True, I see your logic. What I am saying is that there is no need to find one that exclusively serves the high networth segment. Just a thought.
You miss the point.

With a prime broker you are going direct to market. They want you to win.

With a market maker you are trading against a dealing desk. Your funds go nowhere near the real market. They want you to lose.
  • #6,904
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:08am Jul 15, 2018 8:08am
Quoting claudia1
{quote} You miss the point. With a prime broker you are going direct to market. They want you to win. With a market maker you are trading against a dealing desk. Your funds go nowhere near the real market. They want you to lose.
Sorry if I misunderstood, but what I gathered from Brian was that he was afraid that the broker would not be able to pay him back his money, nothing about trading; evidently from this post below:
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} As told Claudia is much money for a "normal" broker. I was client of Alpari UK and even i didnt be affected by CHF his bankruptcy and very long process by regulator made change my main thinking about "brokers"
Your point to him would probably be about prime broker/market maker, but I won't know, considering you didn't tell me.

Anyway, I'm with Pepperstone ECN. Is that good or bad?
  • #6,905
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:16am Jul 15, 2018 8:16am
Quoting claudia1
{quote} Barclays. Liquidity provider, STP etc. 250k too much to put with a market maker.
Thanks Claudia, hope you are ok.
i was assuming he is small trader.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #6,906
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:16am Jul 15, 2018 8:16am
Quoting ThreeHalf
{quote} Sorry if I misunderstood, but what I gathered from Brian was that he was afraid that the broker would not be able to pay him back his money, nothing about trading; evidently from this post below: {quote} Your point to him would probably be about prime broker/market maker, but I won't know, considering you didn't tell me. Anyway, I'm with Pepperstone ECN. Is that good or bad?
I've got 2 live Pepperstone ECN accounts, both around 20K each, and have had no problems with them.
  • #6,907
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:18am Jul 15, 2018 8:18am
Quoting ThreeHalf
{quote} Not sure about Spanish banks, but in Asia (Hong Kong and Singapore), you can trade FX via banks as well. So yeah, you won't have to worry about them running away with your money.
Spanish banks are not reliable...
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  • #6,908
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:18am Jul 15, 2018 8:18am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} I've got 2 live Pepperstone ECN accounts, both around 20K each, and have had no problems with them.
Yeah, I never had heard of any problems with Pepperstone; and my buddies trade 6 digits with them so..I don't trade that much as I prefer to di-vest and withdraw from time to time. Thanks for sharing.
  • #6,909
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:19am Jul 15, 2018 8:19am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Spanish banks are not reliable...
Sorry to hear that, in Asia, banks are largely considered to be trust-worthy; they took a huge hit after the Lehmann Brothers crisis, but still thought to be dependable.
  • #6,910
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:22am Jul 15, 2018 8:22am
Quoting ThreeHalf
{quote} Shame..but anyone who has a million won't be bothered...Maybe that's why the rule is as such..to make sure there is no challenger..
Of course, he called FF’s bluff.
  • #6,911
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:25am Jul 15, 2018 8:25am
Quoting ThreeHalf
{quote} Sorry if I misunderstood, but what I gathered from Brian was that he was afraid that the broker would not be able to pay him back his money, nothing about trading; evidently from this post below: {quote} Your point to him would probably be about prime broker/market maker, but I won't know, considering you didn't tell me. Anyway, I'm with Pepperstone ECN. Is that good or bad?
Evidently you understood well because funds safety is my main worry. Trading and other things are not relevant because all traders always try choose a fair broker ( even in market makers you have big differences in this ). Anyway as Claudia told when you have some quantity of balance you cant trade as retail do it. You have other needs in broker side
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  • #6,912
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:25am Jul 15, 2018 8:25am
Quoting ThreeHalf
{quote} Sorry if I misunderstood, but what I gathered from Brian was that he was afraid that the broker would not be able to pay him back his money, nothing about trading; evidently from this post below: {quote} Your point to him would probably be about prime broker/market maker, but I won't know, considering you didn't tell me. Anyway, I'm with Pepperstone ECN. Is that good or bad?
Lol ok.

Don't know anything about Pepperstone. If you're happy with them that's all that matters.

I actually use IG and have for years with few complaints. Strong company and pay out promptly and FCA regulated.
  • #6,913
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:25am Jul 15, 2018 8:25am
Quoting ThreeHalf
{quote} Yeah, I never had heard of any problems with Pepperstone; and my buddies trade 6 digits with them so..I don't trade that much as I prefer to di-vest and withdraw from time to time. Thanks for sharing.
I always use at least 6 different brokers and balance money between them, just in case one tries to shaft me. Can't trust any of them really.
  • #6,914
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:26am Jul 15, 2018 8:26am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} I've got 2 live Pepperstone ECN accounts, both around 20K each, and have had no problems with them.
I opened one in ICM for my retail account but not sure if is a good broker ( I didnt find very bad comments at google ). Any opinion?
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  • #6,915
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:28am Jul 15, 2018 8:28am
Hmmmm..back to the question..will Dukas take up the challenge or will he dodge? I took a look at his history..it's rare for him to not be here in 24 hours time..weird weird weird!
  • #6,916
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:30am Jul 15, 2018 8:30am
Quoting billytt
{quote} Thanks Claudia, hope you are ok. i was assuming he is small trader.
Hi

Off to watch footie. Shame to clog the thread up I liked the arguing !

Catch you later for open.
  • #6,917
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:31am Jul 15, 2018 8:31am
Quoting claudia1
{quote} Hi Off to watch footie. Shame to clog the thread up I liked the arguing ! Catch you later for open.
Claudia, your advice is second to none, Much appreciated.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #6,918
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:32am Jul 15, 2018 8:32am
Quoting claudia1
{quote} Hi Off to watch footie. Shame to clog the thread up I liked the arguing ! Catch you later for open.
There's still 1.5 hours to go..Who are you backing?

I hope to see a Croatia win!
  • #6,919
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:32am Jul 15, 2018 8:32am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} I opened one in ICM for my retail account but not sure if is a good broker ( I didnt find very bad comments at google ). Any opinion?
I only just started trading live with ICMarkets a month ago, after demo for six months. The reviews look okay on FPA and the spread is good. I've had no issues other than a self-inflicted deposit problem. Probably best to ask profitfarmer about them, as I think he's had an account with them for a much longer time than me. There was nothing bad that I could find about them though, so I don't expect any problems.
  • #6,920
  • Jul 15, 2018 8:34am Jul 15, 2018 8:34am
As Claudia stated, if you have serious money use Barclaysfx as example, i think they accept 1000k minimum maybe 200k not sure,
i traded with my old faithful using several accounts.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
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