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  • #6,821
  • Jul 13, 2018 2:15pm Jul 13, 2018 2:15pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} So would you say your MM gives you an edge?
MM?
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #6,822
  • Jul 13, 2018 2:31pm Jul 13, 2018 2:31pm
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} MM?
really? thats a question from someone with reporting so many wins? TP and SL is same question?

really your knowledge looks extrem low and so looks like your wins are faked like from fractalfreak. really.
  • #6,823
  • Jul 13, 2018 2:41pm Jul 13, 2018 2:41pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} really? thats a question from someone with reporting so many wins? TP and SL is same question? really your knowledge looks extrem low and so looks like your wins are faked like from fractalfreak. really.
True, it boosts my ego big time exaggerating my wins on this forum.........
To be honest my win accuracy is just above 5%, happy now
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #6,824
  • Jul 13, 2018 2:43pm Jul 13, 2018 2:43pm
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} True, it boosts my ego big time exaggerating my wins on this forum......... To be honest my win accuracy is just above 5%, happy now
why i should be happy when you often tell stupid questions, and show that you are to lazy to learn the basics and that its good chance you faked all your wins to look better (same like fractalfreak is doing)?

i dont like faker, be more honest and then i would be happy.
  • #6,825
  • Jul 13, 2018 2:49pm Jul 13, 2018 2:49pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} why i should be happy when you often tell stupid questions, and show that you are to lazy to learn the basics and that its good chance you faked all your wins to look better (same like fractalfreak is doing)? i dont like faker, be more honest and then i would be happy.
Tell stupid questions? Que?

Your right im a very lazy person(no sarcasm) happy now?
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #6,826
  • Jul 13, 2018 2:54pm Jul 13, 2018 2:54pm
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} Tell stupid questions? Que? Your right im a very lazy person(no sarcasm) happy now?
stupid question very often.

and no , not happy, because this was a fact since long time ago.

but at least you know you do it, so you can learn the bascis when you want leave your beginner level. it will make your trading much better, without any problem.
  • #6,827
  • Jul 13, 2018 2:58pm Jul 13, 2018 2:58pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} stupid question very often. and no , not happy, because this was a fact since long time ago. but at least you know you do it, so you can learn the bascis when you want leave your beginner level. it will make your trading much better, without any problem.
Ok last question and im out.

Can you teach me the basics master?
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #6,828
  • Jul 13, 2018 3:07pm Jul 13, 2018 3:07pm
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} Ok last question and im out. Can you teach me the basics master?
last answer.

no, because you dont tell the truth. thats the most important basic you need to develop first.
  • #6,829
  • Jul 13, 2018 3:10pm Jul 13, 2018 3:10pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} last answer. no, because you dont tell the truth. thats the most important basic you need to develop first.
Too bad.
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #6,830
  • Edited 9:29pm Jul 13, 2018 9:04pm | Edited 9:29pm
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} I had loser today let me be honest but still made 10% capital gains with 1,5% risk a trade so its not neccesary to post them, Its all part of the business. If you know how to trade these losses arent that big that there announceable, i can have consecutive 15 losers in a row and have 5 winners and my balance will be positive. I can understand that it can be frustrating if you see someone make profits after profits while you keep blowing account after account but it all comes with hard work and the right information.
I said in my post "with the exception of JustPipping". And you're profitable trading your own method, not what FFake teaches there.
And one incident is very revealing. Both Silverau and I noticed that, a trade video shows FFake only made 9 pips on a NU trade risking at list 25 pips. Later that day you announced that you made a killing on GU (or EU). Your statement had some impact on FFake. He immediately replied that he was " licking my fingers from my NU trade". On seeing that I couldn't help laughing. Come on, grand master, licking fingers on 9 pips of profit with 25 pips risk ?

Your success on that GU/EU trade made FFake feel bad. He was a very insecure person. If he had felt secure and confident, he would've let it pass. Instead, he made that licking fingers statement out of jealousy and betrayed himself. That incident tells us a lot about FractalFake.
  • #6,831
  • Jul 14, 2018 3:21am Jul 14, 2018 3:21am
Quoting pooh123
{quote} I said in my post "with the exception of JustPipping". And you're profitable trading your own method, not what FFake teaches there. And one incident is very revealing. Both Silverau and I noticed that, a trade video shows FFake only made 9 pips on a NU trade risking at list 25 pips. Later that day you announced that you made a killing on GU (or EU). Your statement had some impact on FFake. He immediately replied that he was " licking my fingers from my NU trade". On seeing that I couldn't help laughing. Come on, grand master, licking fingers...
I know but i was just trying to clear something up(no offence to you). What you are saying didnt really catch me but that couldve been my objectivity, maybe its true maybe not thats not something i can judge about. My quest is that in the future people will not be called a scammer without substancial evidence and if you look back you will see there still isnt any just red flags. What suprises me is that on this forum you get judged for nothing, while its understandable because thats how 80% of the peoples mind work. Your right about my trading is 100% my own hard work and Fraktals material did not have a big impact on me which in the beginning i thought it would. Still i can see similarities and you can become very profitable if you study his charts because most times my trades will go where FF stop accumulations are on his charts!

My message is dont judge so fast and let the man show his true intentions and yes i know its taking a long time....... but if you people are right his thread will die out eventually and that doesnt neccesary need your gossiping about him but still i know my message doesnt mean shit.
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #6,832
  • Jul 14, 2018 4:07am Jul 14, 2018 4:07am
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} My message is dont judge so fast and let the man show his true intentions and yes i know its taking a long time....... but if you people are right his thread will die out eventually and that doesnt neccesary need your gossiping about him but still i know my message doesnt mean shit.

I agree that his charts might have some value for trading. Yet it's definitely not a holy grail. I also agree that we should not conclude so fast whether someone is a scammer. First, there is a question of how you define a scammer or scamming ? It's not that easy in trading. In this business only 1~5% of traders succeed. The rest of 95~99% will eventually fail, no matter what methods/systems they try. Often the validity of a method/system doesn't show immediately. It can take 1~5 years to master a trading method/system. On the other hand, with some methods/systems, at fist glimpse, they may appear to be the closest thing to a holy grail. However, later on you'll be disappointed.

I believe there are only profitable traders, there are no profitable systems/methods. The same method/system traded by different traders can have different results. My message to FractalFreak's supporters is, trade his method for 6 months. Then make a judgement based on your account balance. One thing I know for sure is, it doesn't matter FractalFreak is a scammer or a genuine trading guru, 1~5% of his followers will eventually become profitable and the rest will fail.
  • #6,833
  • Jul 14, 2018 5:08am Jul 14, 2018 5:08am
Quoting pooh123
{quote} I agree that his charts might have some value for trading. Yet it's definitely not a holy grail. I also agree that we should not conclude so fast whether someone is a scammer. First, there is a question of how you define a scammer or scamming ? It's not that easy in trading. In this business only 1~5% of traders succeed. The rest of 95~99% will eventually fail, no matter what methods/systems they try. Often the validity of a method/system doesn't show immediately. It can take 1~5 years to master a trading method/system. On the other hand,...
This is the true definition of trading indeed and shows the importance of psychology in this profession. There are millions of ways to make money from the market, most people just see the glamour of it and forget it takes so much time to perfect it. For me it took 1,5 year which is a short amount of time but understand i study 10 to 14 hours a day! Still when i found a working method it took me 10 months to perfect it, blowing a couple accounts just experimenting with it and getting my emotions and confidence in the right place.

You cant trade Fraktals method from what he has shown because you will need his indicator. What you can do is study the price behaviour and look at the market timings when these occur. Trading itself and pushing a button is not that hard its what comes with it and how you handle your mental state and manage your money is what will make you succeed.

I think we are onto something and hope some people in this thread take some things you said in consideration. This thread has some clear rules on page 1 which have been violated multiple times in disgrace of Fraktal and other people! Sometimes you just let things be even if you think otherwise
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #6,834
  • Jul 14, 2018 6:50am Jul 14, 2018 6:50am
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} This is the true definition of trading indeed and shows the importance of psychology in this profession. There are millions of ways to make money from the market, most people just see the glamour of it and forget it takes so much time to perfect it. For me it took 1,5 year which is a short amount of time but understand i study 10 to 14 hours a day! Still when i found a working method it took me 10 months to perfect it, blowing a couple accounts just experimenting with it and getting my emotions and confidence in the right place. You cant...
"You cant trade Fraktals method from what he has shown because you will need his indicator."

Horrido!!
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #6,835
  • Jul 14, 2018 7:55am Jul 14, 2018 7:55am
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} This is the true definition of trading indeed and shows the importance of psychology in this profession. There are millions of ways to make money from the market, most people just see the glamour of it and forget it takes so much time to perfect it. For me it took 1,5 year which is a short amount of time but understand i study 10 to 14 hours a day! Still when i found a working method it took me 10 months to perfect it, blowing a couple accounts just experimenting with it and getting my emotions and confidence in the right place. You cant...
as long you did not even check that fractalfreak fakes often trades, is a liar very often, dont has good history or would present it already (such ego boosting character types are always so! . he simple is a bad trader, thats all, and thats for 100% sure, you can say you are not sure about, but other are longer in business and know it for sure!).

and thats the really difference often. you are new in market (at least many what you write shows this or you try to look extrem unexperienced), have often problems with basics, so you cant judge very easy.
no wonder all experienced traders (against the beginner who did see not, or some lower skilled people like you between this) did very easy see fractalfreak a liar, faker and cheater and with a near 100% chance as trying scammer when he would has the chance and not would be exposed by many people. that you cant see it is no problem, but this dont make it not true! you are not applying your own rules to other, other can be much more experienced and see what happens here more easy then you. when you get more experience later you will see it too. 1,5 years looks not enough for you, you are by many facts at the beginning.

whats hard to see, that when someone is not honest, is a liar so often, fakes so much.... you are still trying to think such a person can be a good trader, that really makes you very easy to scam for many and you need to think about it.
  • #6,836
  • Jul 14, 2018 12:05pm Jul 14, 2018 12:05pm
Quoting Tradingwithw
Alright friends, I think it's time for me to go commercial and set the standard. I originally wanted to wait another 2 months but I'm tired of seeing folks get ripped off.... feel free to judge my live account. I'm finishing up the rest of my regulator filings with the state and SEC (yes that's right- I'm actually doing it the LEGAL way) and waiting on the word from my compliance people (Ascendant Compliance), then I'll start the thread. From here I'll hold my postings to commercial only....although they've been that way for the last few months...
done and done - if I ever cross the line I expect you all to spank me

Got the word back from compliance, no registration needed unless I take possession/custody of client funds. Of course they could have just told me that BEFORE charging me 2.5k.....
  • #6,837
  • Jul 14, 2018 3:02pm Jul 14, 2018 3:02pm
Quoting Tradingwithw
{quote} done and done - if I ever cross the line I expect you all to spank me Got the word back from compliance, no registration needed unless I take possession/custody of client funds. Of course they could have just told me that BEFORE charging me 2.5k.....
go for it bud.....
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #6,838
  • Jul 14, 2018 8:59pm Jul 14, 2018 8:59pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} go for it bud.....
Much love billytt, you've always been an encouraging voice in my endeavour thank you!
  • #6,839
  • Jul 14, 2018 11:00pm Jul 14, 2018 11:00pm
Few facts about FF:
1. FF has many commercial people who are trying to pull a fast one
2. The vigilantes in this thread prefer to err on the side of caution (which is not something bad)
3. Dukas_trader needs English lessons but first, he needs to calm himself down least he gets a cardiac arrest.

Now I await for him to call me a "faker" and his tirade.
  • #6,840
  • Jul 14, 2018 11:02pm Jul 14, 2018 11:02pm
Quoting Tradingwithw
{quote} done and done - if I ever cross the line I expect you all to spank me Got the word back from compliance, no registration needed unless I take possession/custody of client funds. Of course they could have just told me that BEFORE charging me 2.5k.....
I have had been very busy with my own stuff over the year, but I'm back...nice to see a humble and genuine commercial (to-be) member. Do you have a journal I can follow or something?
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