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  • #28,101
  • Jul 11, 2018 4:20pm Jul 11, 2018 4:20pm
Quoting C-12
{quote} Yes, the doji but why was the doji there in that location?
This is very important part when reading price action.
  • #28,102
  • Jul 11, 2018 4:33pm Jul 11, 2018 4:33pm
Quoting amikaking
{quote} {quote} {image} i dont care if you are still in your “desired” profit zone but let’s admit you are lost, the hero who make his call 9 hours ago & yell everyone that “this is the perfect moment” to buy as what i have said earlier, whenever Moty comes up with a post, it is probably gonna be a lose trade...heck, even his trading method is questionnable & raise reg flag, seriously, so many buy orders with no SL? i get it, you are “hoping” for market to turn, but the logic is clear now: you are lost, hero we dont need you to save us, but pls...
I believe you have good intentions towards Moty, but it's beginning to sound like a personal spat. Except, maybe, you know something about him that we don't.

I believe some others see what I'm seeing but are silent. You attacked alirexx the other day and yet his trade hit TO for over 40pips, and price is still falling.

I insist: there are still better ways of resenting your view, even when it's divergent from that of other traders'.
  • #28,103
  • Edited 5:02pm Jul 11, 2018 4:43pm | Edited 5:02pm
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} I believe you have good intentions towards Moty, but it's beginning to sound like a personal spat. Except, maybe, you know something about him that we don't. I believe some others see what I'm seeing but are silent. You attacked alirexx the other day and yet his trade hit TO for over 40pips, and price is still falling. I insist: there are still better ways of resenting your view, even when it's divergent from that of other traders'.
i did not attack alirexx, heck i dont know who is alirexx

u can trace my history, i did not quote any thread related to alirexx

the reason i quote Moty so often, is that when he made his prediction & lost, clearly he still doesn’t admit & continues to post yet another “prediction”, and it does not make sense to me (to me only) so i decide to quote his previous failed prediction post & discuss it here

it’s not just me who has been sharing advise to Moty, Teek has also expressed his view & quote Moty on last week regarding his dubious trading (which is gambling), you may defend Moty but if he can keep on posting “losing prediction”, why I can’t post my analysis on his “losing prediction” post?

this is an open thread as long we are discussing topic within EURUSD only, i don’t even post a DXY chart (like Moty always did & based his reasoning 100% just because EU correlates with DXY)
  • #28,104
  • Jul 11, 2018 4:50pm Jul 11, 2018 4:50pm
Quoting amikaking
{quote} {quote} {image} i dont care if you are still in your “desired” profit zone but let’s admit you are lost, the hero who make his call 9 hours ago & yell everyone that “this is the perfect moment” to buy as what i have said earlier, whenever Moty comes up with a post, it is probably gonna be a lose trade...heck, even his trading method is questionnable & raise reg flag, seriously, so many buy orders with no SL? i get it, you are “hoping” for market to turn, but the logic is clear now: you are lost, hero we dont need you to save us, but pls...
Okay Amikaking.. you expressed your point about Moty enough for the day.. I want it to end right now.. Go ignore him and case closed.. No offense but one more complaint of his posts and you are out.. Same goes for Moty.. One more post in response directly to Amikaking and he is out as well..

Gosh.. I swear I am tired to have been listening to this drama all day.. enough is enough.. My first and last warning.. Please use the ignore button and move on.. I will hit the hay now and once I wake up I expect to hear nothing about this topic anymore.. Thanks in advance...

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #28,105
  • Jul 11, 2018 8:15pm Jul 11, 2018 8:15pm
Hi Ata. I actually cannot understand, why many people argue and try to show he or she is right or wrong in forex. Frankly, I do believe NO ONE in this world is accurate completely as forex is very volatile and many unpredictable events. I really appreciate all ideas as I strongly believe the number one goal is to make profit from this free market. You are right to scold those as I think it is meaningless to show off on thread. I really hope everyone can post to help each other make profit. I do appreciate Ata's comments and looking forward to all positive ideas on forex for all to make green. Thank you.
  • #28,106
  • Jul 11, 2018 9:43pm Jul 11, 2018 9:43pm
Quoting amikaking
{quote} {quote} {image} i dont care if you are still in your “desired” profit zone but let’s admit you are lost, the hero who make his call 9 hours ago & yell everyone that “this is the perfect moment” to buy as what i have said earlier, whenever Moty comes up with a post, it is probably gonna be a lose trade...heck, even his trading method is questionnable & raise reg flag, seriously, so many buy orders with no SL? i get it, you are “hoping” for market to turn, but the logic is clear now: you’re lost, hero, and your setup is totally invalidated...
Hater will be hater .
everything is good. I'm used to people waiting for other to fall in order to gloat.
Where were all of them good Souls when I hit nonstop last week?
I do not get to anyone pocket, so don't get in mine.
nun Stop Loss is my trading method, and if I feel like losing money, that's my problem.
The bottom line is I'm still in the trade, and do not need more than 20-30 pips to get back to the money and the same 585% profit.
What happened yesterday was mainly because of trumps twits.
I am a still a believer that the index dollar can fold.
dxy daily , h1
eur/usd daily , h1
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yes yes yes
  • #28,107
  • Edited 10:04pm Jul 11, 2018 9:51pm | Edited 10:04pm
Quoting JmFinancials
Someone told me some time back. If you making money out of these markets than you are a truly genius.
well you don't need to be a genius but it's true that currencies are the most complicated assets to trade.
Currencies can't be traded just by looking at charts and trying to make predictions.
There is (much) more into it than only charts. That would be too easy and anyone could do it.
In fact (as you can see very clear when you read forums), not anyone can. Just anyone believes they can because it's "cheap" to get into it.
But (again) it just aint so

There is a reason why brokers give you insane leverage to trade currencies.
A total stranger comes along and lends you 400k to go long on the Euro and all you need to do is provide is a copy of your ID and a household bill in order click a button, and nobody ever asks why?...
There is good reason behind this. People are looking at charts all day making wild assumptions...
As if it was that easy...
It takes a click of a button to make a trade. It takes much more to make a currencies trader.

But that's not what you are here for, right?
So here you go. The funny blue thing needs to be tested, the fancy green thing is active...
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Stop clicking the button. Think.
you are not expected to understand this
  • #28,108
  • Jul 11, 2018 10:02pm Jul 11, 2018 10:02pm
Quoting antisystem
{quote} I can only advice you- forget the news, it's a way to nowhere.
I have tried without news, so far it was nowhere. Not saying that it is impossible without news. But look at the forum, there are threads where say that fundamentals beat technicals. Plus I had a coaching by fundamental trader, he showed his demo account where he crushed the markets, he had like about 90 % winning positions, and he sounded like honest man. He said on real account he has room to improve because of psychological reasons only he does not achieve what he achieves on demo.

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well you don't need to be a genius but it's true that currencies are the most complicated assets to trade.

and what is least complicated? I want to go to trade something what is easy and make money finally ( I mean not physical products which I need to pack and send or something like that)
  • #28,109
  • Edited 11:05pm Jul 11, 2018 10:10pm | Edited 11:05pm
Quoting SPeedFANat1c
{quote} I have tried without news, so far it was nowhere. Not saying that it is impossible without news. But look at the forum, there are threads where say that fundamentals beat technicals. Plus I had a coaching by fundamental trader, he showed his demo account where he crushed the markets, he had like about 90 % winning positions, and he sounded like honest man. He said on real account he has room to improve because of psychological reasons only he does not achieve what he achieves on demo.
Fundamental Analysis is NOT "watching news".
Fundamental Analysts look at charts you never know they existed.
A Fundamental Analyst does more charting than anything in order to do the calculations well before "news".
There is a vast missconception about "Fundamental Analysis" throughout the industrie. It has nothing to do with "trading the news".
NOBODY will teach you this.

"and what is least complicated? I want to go to trade something what is easy and make money finnaly"
Stop looking for shortcuts. There are no shortcuts. You are in for the toughest game you ever play in your life and in order to get good at it, it takes experience.
If you want to survive the game, work longer and harder than anyone else. Otherwise, don't even start. You can't do this as "a hobby".
That's the honest truth that nobody tells you. Ovecome yourself, again and again, and you will succeed.
If you are going to try: Go all the way
you are not expected to understand this
  • #28,110
  • Jul 11, 2018 10:12pm Jul 11, 2018 10:12pm
Closed most of my trade (what i had left of it i mean) at 1.168...still think it can go lower but the chart just looks ridiculous now.
  • #28,111
  • Jul 11, 2018 10:14pm Jul 11, 2018 10:14pm
Quoting SPeedFANat1c
{quote} I have tried without news, so far it was nowhere. Not saying that it is impossible without news. But look at the forum, there are threads where say that fundamentals beat technicals. Plus I had a coaching by fundamental trader, he showed his demo account where he crushed the markets, he had like about 90 % winning positions, and he sounded like honest man. He said on real account he has room to improve because of psychological reasons only he does not achieve what he achieves on demo.
look my freind , do you see any fundamental in this chart ?
fundamental news is the fuel of the trend , and nothing more .
you want to be Successful trader? It's all in you.
Discipline, lack of "big eyes" , risk management and patience
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yes yes yes
  • #28,112
  • Jul 11, 2018 10:15pm Jul 11, 2018 10:15pm
Quoting Teek
{quote} Fundamental Analysis is NOT "watching news". Fundamental Analysts look at charts you never know they existed. A Fundamental Analyst does more charting than anything in order to do the calculations well before "news". There is a vast missconception about "Fundamental Analysis" throughout the industrie. It has nothing to do with "trading the news". NOBODY will teach you this.
Can you expand on this more in general? What do you mean by 'looks at charts you never knew they existed'?
  • #28,113
  • Jul 11, 2018 11:02pm Jul 11, 2018 11:02pm
Quoting Stillearnin
{quote} Can you expand on this more in general? What do you mean by 'looks at charts you never knew they existed'?
Ata would have a heartattack if I'd do this in here. I like Ata and don't want to kill him, so no I wont do that
you are not expected to understand this
  • #28,114
  • Jul 11, 2018 11:02pm Jul 11, 2018 11:02pm
my view for today , LONG - if above green line
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Trendlines H1,H4, SMC
  • #28,115
  • Jul 11, 2018 11:02pm Jul 11, 2018 11:02pm
Quoting Stillearnin
{quote} Can you expand on this more in general? What do you mean by 'looks at charts you never knew they existed'?
What Teek is talking about is neither a mystery nor alien tech.. You must only read books about fundamental analysis my friend..

Start with Benjamin Graham... And especially start with his book "The Intelligent Investor"... Once you finish that book now you can step to his other book "Security Analysis"... Overall once you understand the fundamentals of fundamental analysis you might also begin to consider to trading stocks. But this is not relevant with this thread. Anyways.. have fun reading..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #28,116
  • Jul 11, 2018 11:10pm Jul 11, 2018 11:10pm
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
Welcome to "EURUSD Only" Every trader loves to post his/her ideas and interact with other traders during exciting, frustrating and most of the times boring trading hours. I believe that the overall subconscious goal is to feel surrounded by living, breathing, real people.. friends.. like-minded personalities who knowingly or unknowingly help each other not to feel isolated from daily life. Otherwise we would just sit in front of a screen for hours and have conversations with our inner voices, right? That sounds very pathetic to me to be honest....
Hi Ata-Turkoglu,

”Get angry and curse or even offend other members if they are having a bad trading day (but they have to put out that they are having a bad day and we expect them to apologize asap once they cool down). All members will tolerate such behaviour for the sake of creating a family here.”

there is one rule you did mentioned in the first page of the thread, i am sorry but really i did not intend to offend Moty, i do apologize because i am having a bad day scolded by my boss (for checking & refreshing FF while working ) and when i saw Moty’s post i have been “triggered”

sometimes when i quote the other, i put in my own analysis effort attached with clear explaination, which i think i am also indirectly contributing to this topic
  • #28,117
  • Jul 11, 2018 11:18pm Jul 11, 2018 11:18pm
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  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: I pity the fool that fails to laugh | 368 Posts
Quoting amikaking
{quote} Hi Ata-Turkoglu, ”Get angry and curse or even offend other members if they are having a bad trading day (but they have to put out that they are having a bad day and we expect them to apologize asap once they cool down). All members will tolerate such behaviour for the sake of creating a family here.” there is one rule you did mentioned in the first page of the thread, i am sorry but really i did not intend to offend Moty, i do apologize because i am having a bad day scolded by my boss (for checking & refreshing FF while working )...
well you "triggering" on Moty is "triggerig" all the others. so just block him and stop spamming...
so how bout that world cup?
c'mon baby, daddy needs brand new clogs...
  • #28,118
  • Jul 11, 2018 11:22pm Jul 11, 2018 11:22pm
Quoting amikaking
{quote} Hi Ata-Turkoglu, ”Get angry and curse or even offend other members if they are having a bad trading day (but they have to put out that they are having a bad day and we expect them to apologize asap once they cool down). All members will tolerate such behaviour for the sake of creating a family here.” there is one rule you did mentioned in the first page of the thread, i am sorry but really i did not intend to offend Moty, i do apologize because i am having a bad day scolded by my boss (for checking & refreshing FF while working )...
Okay London will open soon we continue posting around EURUSD.. Now focus... Happy trading day to all..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #28,119
  • Jul 11, 2018 11:24pm Jul 11, 2018 11:24pm
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Quoting amikaking
{quote} bye chump {image}
well he showed you
c'mon baby, daddy needs brand new clogs...
  • #28,120
  • Jul 11, 2018 11:25pm Jul 11, 2018 11:25pm
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  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: I pity the fool that fails to laugh | 368 Posts
Quoting amikaking
{quote} bye world cup {image}
well i never...
im insulted on so many fib levels...
c'mon baby, daddy needs brand new clogs...
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