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  • #6,661
  • Jul 8, 2018 12:06pm Jul 8, 2018 12:06pm
Guys, I never thought he was a scammer and there is no proof that he is....till someone comes forward with proof he is innocent

But it is 1000% he does not even know what a hedge fund manager is and that he is blowing smoke to newbies....

It is pathetic, he is actually begging them and threatening them at the same time "if you want me to continue"..... go vote....

Gimme a break, this is like a game to him and the way it looks his pass time...he does nothing else

Does he have an agenda...very possible...is he contaminating FF with all the mickey mouse threads and stupidities
that is up to the FF staff to decide, to me it does not change anything I am not the one spending my life....and
I do not care if FF does not care....it is their business

4x
  • #6,662
  • Jul 8, 2018 1:18pm Jul 8, 2018 1:18pm
Guys, forget the fellow, let the man continue his thread.
POW!
  • #6,663
  • Jul 8, 2018 1:25pm Jul 8, 2018 1:25pm
Quoting fxprimate
Guys, forget the fellow, let the man continue his thread.
Maybe if he posts a trade say tomorrow,,,and if he posts a lousy chart, let him explain...
he must have lots of trades running if he is a hedge fund manager.
i am only a minnow now with my GF's 117K to play with, and i tell you what i am going to do.
cough cough 08-00 15 minute bar break.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #6,664
  • Jul 8, 2018 1:26pm Jul 8, 2018 1:26pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} He's been reported to Twee. This is too much now. I've been an observer quietly watching this fiasco going on and on, but to open a thread, and a poll only to complain about another member is too far. Twee and FF admin will decide and put this to rest.
i was going to do it....
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #6,665
  • Jul 8, 2018 1:33pm Jul 8, 2018 1:33pm
to be honest like i said that FF guy is just a kid playing around,i see no danger from his way.until people will start report he sell or have any scam intention i do belive the same,he must be left alone to do his job.

till then i think forexfactory admins have more serious matter to deal with as another respectable member stopped his contribution on this place.should i mention how many really respectable guys has left till now due to the fact that they became subject to be slandered by all kind of freaks lowest quality people?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...4#post11240184
in this way will not take much and all we will be able to read here will be just the news.
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #6,666
  • Edited 2:07pm Jul 8, 2018 1:55pm | Edited 2:07pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} Maybe if he posts a trade say tomorrow,,,and if he posts a lousy chart, let him explain... he must have lots of trades running if he is a hedge fund manager. i am only a minnow now with my GF's 117K to play with, and i tell you what i am going to do. cough cough 08-00 15 minute bar break.
I think everyone already figured out what's going on.
He has a child behavior, maybe some problems in socializing.
He needs to be the center of attention, he´s a narcissist. (a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves and who think the world revolves around them)
He says nothing new except for the newbies and for some older members who have no idea what this business is.
He has a system like any other.
He intends in the near future to create a business related to his rainbow charts.
If he will turn in a scammer only the future will tell, but commercial I believe it will be the next step.

So the more attention people give him the better for him.
He will play the role of victim.

Let him fly
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  • #6,667
  • Jul 8, 2018 2:09pm Jul 8, 2018 2:09pm
Quoting fxprimate
{quote} I think everyone already figured out what's going on. He has a child behavior, maybe some problems in socializing. He needs to be the center of attention, he´s a narcissist. (a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves and who think the world revolves around them) He says nothing new except for the newbies and for some older members who have no idea what this business is. He has a system like any other. He intends in the near future to create a business related to his rainbow charts. If he will turn in a scammer...
he can only play rule of victim because noone tell in his thread, that i already did accept his challange and did chnage his cheater rules to real trading rules.
and that we can compare our history and show if his trading system has any value.

both he did not, and anybody know why. he has no wins, nothing to show, is bad trader and thatswhy want only contest with his cheating rules.
anything he told about me would be wrong when dooing the comparing, he know this, and anything i did told about him would be true, and this he is knowing too.

but because nobody copy this text inside fractalfreaks chat nobody of his follower sheeps read it, and fractalfreak can cheat day in day out whatever he want, he simple blocks anybody who say the truth and then write: he did make contest and nobody would accept, anybody against him is payed by broker and brokers want him shutdown because he know the secrets, and so on... anything what comes out of this bigmouth is such a fake...
  • #6,668
  • Jul 8, 2018 2:11pm Jul 8, 2018 2:11pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} he can only play rule of victim because noone tell in his thread, that i already did accept his challange and did chnage his cheater rules to real trading rules. and that we can compare our history and show if his trading system has any value. both he did not, and anybody know why. he has no wins, nothing to show, is bad trader and thatswhy want only contest with his cheating rules. anything he told about me would be wrong when dooing the comparing, he know this, and anything i did told about him would be true, and this he is knowing too....
Let him fly
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  • #6,669
  • Edited 2:41pm Jul 8, 2018 2:14pm | Edited 2:41pm
Quoting fxprimate
{quote} Let him fly
thats the problem, a 100% cheater, faker and liar let fly and he can say he is in right to all his followers because other stoped and did see he is correct?

sorry, thats extrem bad idea. so less time i have not to care not a little bit about the beginner members here.
  • #6,670
  • Jul 8, 2018 2:21pm Jul 8, 2018 2:21pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} thats the problem, a 100% cheater, faker and liar let fly and he can say he is in right to all his followers because other stoped and di see he is correct? sorry, thats extrem bad idea. so less time i have not to care not a little bit about the beginner members here.
Ok dukas, do what you want.
Cheers
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  • #6,671
  • Jul 8, 2018 2:42pm Jul 8, 2018 2:42pm
lets ask some of the traders to supply us info.
i think someone did suggest that....
contact here # i know whats happening.com
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #6,672
  • Jul 9, 2018 12:40am Jul 9, 2018 12:40am
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} I sincerely understand most named problems you have with him, like his work rate and his onorthodox way of teaching and the charts he shows are a bit plain if you dont know what to look for. The problem is if people are interested enough in his material they can learn from it so for me its hard to hear people just scream scammer because they dont like the way his thread moves.
I'm a VSAer and I've attended hundreds of VSA training/informercial/live trading sessions. I don't recall a single session where they didn't mention market manipulation. I always keep an open mind about trading methods/systems. When FF started his thread, I also followed him in the hope of learning a thing or two from his stuff. However, so far, I'm disappointed. There're nothing new to me in there. To date that thread already ran nearly 200 pages. Other than fighting opponents (or, in his words, "enemies") and replying to complimentary feedbacks, FF only talked about three things:

1. Markets are manipulated. And he beats this dead horse again and again and again with multiple videos and posts.
2. SM sometimes go after DM's stops.
3. The more biased markets are and the closer the distance to the stops, SM are more likely to go after the stops against DM's bias.

Absolutely nothing else.

I believe you're an experienced and probably profitable trader. Could you please tell me, what in particular did you learn from his stuff ? I understand why those newbies support FF. But I don't understand why you support him.

I'm just curious and I don't mean to fight or offend you with this post.

Cheers
  • #6,673
  • Jul 9, 2018 1:40am Jul 9, 2018 1:40am
[quote=pooh123;11241516]{quote} I'm a VSAer and I've attended hundreds of VSA training/informercial/live trading sessions. I don't recall a single session where they didn't mention market manipulation. I always keep an open mind about trading methods/system..

good post, i too am still learning and will take advice off anyone.
call it manipulation, call it whatever, it happens..
Markets move and the retailers get busted fact.
They do not get hunted every time and i am very surprised none of the gurus, trading companies have exploited this.
No one speaks about retailers being busted when it is so easy to see...
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #6,674
  • Jul 9, 2018 1:50am Jul 9, 2018 1:50am
Quoting pooh123
{quote} I'm a VSAer and I've attended hundreds of VSA training/informercial/live trading sessions. I don't recall a single session where they didn't mention market manipulation. I always keep an open mind about trading methods/systems. When FF started his thread, I also followed him in the hope of learning a thing or two from his stuff. However, so far, I'm disappointed. There're nothing new to me in there. To date that thread already ran nearly 200 pages. Other than fighting opponents (or, in his words, "enemies") and replying to complimentary...
Well, i like to study and expand my knowledge so when i saw FF's thread it clicked very well with my tradingstyle. So i became a bit obsessed with the idea of getting a better understanding of something i cant quiet control yet or still make mistakes in and i didnt neccesarily. Too some degree i think his thread is very usefull and informative and i believe FF has alot more to show, This is why i support him but i cant deny that like everyone who has been fighting around his thread also he has conducted himself in a very childish unprofessional manner. This tells me i got to back down and re-asses whats wrong and whats right. Did you guys did any wrong calling FF a scammer YES but did FF handle this in a professional way a hedge fund manager supposed to NO. Im going to be unbiased from now on and will see how this situation further develops.

No offend taken, trade well.
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #6,675
  • Jul 9, 2018 2:08am Jul 9, 2018 2:08am
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} Well, i like to study and expand my knowledge so when i saw FF's thread it clicked very well with my tradingstyle. So i became a bit obsessed with the idea of getting a better understanding of something i cant quiet control yet or still make mistakes in and i didnt neccesarily. Too some degree i think his thread is very usefull and informative and i believe FF has alot more to show, This is why i support him but i cant deny that like everyone who has been fighting around his thread also he has conducted himself in a very childish unprofessional...
Hi,, if its anything to go off.
every trade i do, i expect to lose.
I have the oddds/probability/stats to say i wont but that is how i work. Plan B .
trade well
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #6,676
  • Jul 9, 2018 2:45am Jul 9, 2018 2:45am
Quoting bfx17
{quote} I am happy that vwap finally got it. When I started to challenge FF asking the same questions vwap started to ignore me EDIT: by the way vwap, very pertinent questions; well done (in case you are able to see my posts)
Agreed, Vwap has ignored me also -->> since I challenged his defense of FractalFreak's AUDUSD chart on 7 July.
Now Vwap makes the same type of posts that I was making!
  • #6,677
  • Edited 3:09am Jul 9, 2018 2:47am | Edited 3:09am
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} Well, i like to study and expand my knowledge so when i saw FF's thread it clicked very well with my tradingstyle. So i became a bit obsessed with the idea of getting a better understanding of something i cant quiet control yet or still make mistakes in and i didnt neccesarily. Too some degree i think his thread is very usefull and informative and i believe FF has alot more to show, This is why i support him but i cant deny that like everyone who has been fighting around his thread also he has conducted himself in a very childish unprofessional...
Hi JP,
I have asked many questions to Fractal and he does not respond with logical or complete answers - if he responds at all.
Most of the time his replies are just a "Yes" agreeing to one of his inexperienced "devotees" -->> and what do they know anyway? They just blindly follow.
I have posted a few charts and Fractal has not commented on them at all.

I have asked him another direct question in the last sentence of my post #3884 in his thread. Let's see if a proper reply ensues?

I note 2 mistakes in last 2 trading days when he has put out his analysis in advance -

1. AUDUSD 15 minute chart on 6 July - the chart clearly showed an accumulation of long positions and therefore by his stated strategy, the "smart money" should have taken the market down to remove the longs. It did the opposite (which I traded for a profit). Then Fractal (plus his "devotees") decided that the move was explained by "Meta Levels" (hint, hint - the 4 hour chart) and some other reason. But those reasons did not negate the fact that ALL of the accumulated long positions made big profits on the UP move -->> contrary to Fractal's previous teachings about where market should/would go.
So, if Fractal is not going to release his method in more detail, then this type of situation will trap all of his devotees almost every time.

2. Today on the youtube channel Forex Reality (run by Fractal) he gave an analysis of NZDUSD for a short position that was incorrect and only had a target of a few pips anyway? I know no-one is perfect, but he is quick to claim glory from his charts, and so should admit the losses and errors also.

So far, I have persevered with his thread only for the sake of curiosity.
Most of his anaylsis and charts are just pure logic anyway -->> I find no real "secrets" there !

Fractal has said that he has only revealed about 10% of his stuff, and that he intends to NOT reveal any more.
So what worth is his thread in continuing anyway? If no more is to be revealed, then why not stop???
  • #6,678
  • Jul 9, 2018 2:50am Jul 9, 2018 2:50am
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} very childish unprofessional manner
Indeed. FractalFreak has shown the height of his ignorance in his latest comments.

I am really dissapointed in him, I was really interested to learn from others, It seems I was ignored and penalised for asking questions, similar to others here?

I am super frustrated now. Very dissapointed.

I just got over a divorce, that was frustrating enough. Working two jobs and trying to learn more so that I can be free lol.

Anyway, I will stop moaning and wish everyone well.

YOLO.

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  • #6,679
  • Jul 9, 2018 2:59am Jul 9, 2018 2:59am
Quoting silverau
{quote} Agreed, Vwap has ignored me also -->> since I challenged his defense of FractalFreak's AUDUSD chart on 7 July. Now Vwap makes the same type of posts that I was making!
Some of FF's followers are starting to THINK and asking the right questions. Compared with others, they have better odds of making it in this game.
  • #6,680
  • Jul 9, 2018 3:01am Jul 9, 2018 3:01am
Quoting vwap
{quote} Indeed. FractalFreak has shown the height of his ignorance in his latest comments. I am really dissapointed in him, I was really interested to learn from others, It seems I was ignored and penalised for asking questions, similar to others here? I am super frustrated now. Very dissapointed. I just got over a divorce, that was frustrating enough. Working two jobs and trying to learn more so that I can be free lol. Anyway, I will stop moaning and wish everyone well. YOLO. {image}
Only thing i can say about this is your expectations probably where a bit to big......
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
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