The Rabbit Hole

#Portland Patriots VS Antifa #POYB #PatriotPrayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgWmSUjDou8

I Appreciate you for enlightening me about that otherwise i would have never known about it.

But did you know the samething can happen to you as well simply for saying that...

And did you actually understand what i said.I said that this was my first post in this thread not in forexfactory.

anyways thanks for welcoming me.

"This is entirely in context. You accused us of being coerced into subservience to a monarch. I responded that being coerced into subservience to a religion is no better."

No one is accusing you of anything, I am just pointing out that our founding as a nation was based on the very idea of opposing being ruled by a monarch and allowing "We the people" to rule, which is the difference between citizen and subject. On the latter of religious coercion, your examples are not accurate to say in the least and it suggests to me that you are taking this way to literal and personal.

You said originally:

"You teach creationism in your schools"

Which to a layman is suggesting that we teach creationism in all our schools. Not correct!

Also staying on this topic, I went and did further research on this and you left out many important details as it relates to this subject matter. First states such as Louisiana and Tennessee where they do teach creationism in public schools is that the key word omitted is they offer it as an "Alternative curriculum" not a replacement to teaching evolution. Based on this it is not breaching the legal boundaries in which schools can teach this as a subject. It is illegal to teach exclusively creationism in The American public schools thus there is no coercion as you so adamantly claim. Also to point this out a step further on your assertion of Religious coercion, how is that so if its Government that is doing the coercion? It was the States Of Louisiana and Tennessee and their House of representatives who passed the laws not the Churches or religious bodies to allow alternative curriculums such as creationism to be taught in public schools. Secondly there are no laws preventing Christian schools from teaching creationism in their schools either and this map below certainly shows that to be the case as one would come to expect hence that they are Christian. Also do you honestly think America is the only place in the world where "creationism" being taught? I would be willing to wager there are some schools in western countries that also allows for this subject to be taught as well. The real issue here is "Tax payer" money being used to fund some of these schools, particularly private and charter schools, as well as public schools, but I am also sure that they are currently being challenged on constitutional grounds that they shouldn't receive funding at tax payers expense, which falls under the religious liberty clause that is currently being heard and argued before our SCOTUS. So yes, kids in our school system are being given a choice, maybe the coercion that you speak of is being done in part by the parents who want to enroll their kids to some of these private schools and not the churches. Your original claim is a bit of a stretch on your part and not sure why you listed this here without actually doing more research on this topic to know the specifics!






"You can have a British passport and not subscribe to anything British. Many do. You don't have to be subservient to the Queen. Many don't, including Jeremy Corbyn."

Sure! Where did in anything that I said previously that I disputed this? Never said anything about this, only that I remarked on the representational symbolism between a constitutional vs. a monarch government. Every individual has a right to oppose anything, which is probably why your country produced some of the best music in its history. Oppression usually brings out the most ardent voices to create something original, beautiful, and powerful in opposition to bring forth ideas to encourage change. Orwell, Pink Floyd, Dickinson, The Who, The Sex Pistols, and so on.

"All men are created equal," meaning all humans as you point out - US Declaration of Independence 1776 BUT American women did not have the right to vote until 18th August 1920! The Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, adopted in 1870, stipulates: "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." BUT, it didn't happen until 1965! The Voting Rights Act of 1965, signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson, aimed to overcome legal barriers at the state and local levels that prevented African Americans from exercising their right to vote as guaranteed under the 15th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. As for the segregation of blacks... that is simply abhorrent. How is that equal?"

Again, where did I say anything in reference to this above statement that disputes this? I didn't in fact if you actually go back and reread my statement again I was referring to our constitution as it was written as being unambiguous when relating to all humans being created equal, and that the acts of our people didn't live up to the standards in which the constitution was referring to in a literal translation. I think I was very specific in this regards and no where did I imply anything remotely in what you are trying to point out as being an egregious violation, but more to your point I acknowledge that you are correct that the amount of time it took to write these amendments such as voting rights is abhorrent, and there is no disputing that part of our countries dark past when it comes to giving equal rights to all of our countries citizens.

In fact this is what I said:


"Our Constitution and the accompanying Bill of Rights is very specific and not ambiguous when it comes to equal rights. The institutional racism, bigotry and slavery during an era where it was an acceptable practice does not mean that the constitution was written to support those practices, on the contrary it was meant to be inclusive to all human beings seeking liberty and the pursuits of happiness. You are forgetting the acts of men sometimes does not live up to the moral standards that it originally sets forth as the law of the land, and thus took 150 years to arrive to practicing it's standard barer of Truth, Liberty and justice for all in its present form."


And no one is throwing stones at glass houses while living in one, as I am pretty sure if you read up on your history I can cite many examples on how your Government violated human rights over the course of its history, long before the US was even a country but I am not going tit for tat on this with you Jen, but merely pointing out a fact that you simply don't want to accept. After all it's your own countrymen or women who say and claim you don't have freedom of speech, or can regularly be jailed for expressing dissenting opinions on the internet. No? Is this not true?

Or this as an example?

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/feb/24/uk-downgrading-human-rights-dangerous-precedent-amnesty

Anyway to quote a British Citizen:

"The world is full of Kings and Queens
that blind your eyes and steal your dreams
and then its heaven and hell"

Funny how that applies to what all have come to know the human condition and is still relevant by todays standards.

Oh this is priceless!

https://youtu.be/Jw-3aBw-nLw

Yeah, whatever.

You know, someone pointed out to me recently about the use of a stink bomb that the Israelis use for mob control. The smell is similar to a skunk but 10X worse and is hard to get rid of for several days after they have been exposed to it. All these masked degenerates known as ANTIFA could be easily identifiable if this anti-mob device were to be implemented and used by LEO orgs as a way to put a stop to this. I suspect it will not be too long before they start using this if ANTIFA members continue blocking federal offices such as the ICE headquarters. Turn about is fair play and they need to be dealt with on the harshest of terms and the stink bomb would be a great counter measure to use and certainly would be a genius deterrent that will make them think twice about such protests in the future. No amount of tomato juice will be able to work either. Ha!

What? You are the one who advocates for the use of facts, so why should me pointing this out be any different? Like I said don't take it personally, I am on your side ultimately when it all comes down to it!

Just been forwarded this and looks to be pretty comprehensive in terms of proving MSM lies and colluding narratives!


Mainstream Media Pushing 'Trump Concentration Camps' Lie PROVES They Are At It Again - New 'JournoList' Has 400 Wonks Colluding On Narratives


http://allnewspipeline.com/They_Are_At_It_Again_JournOList_Collusion.php

It's not facts I have a problem with, it's verbosity.

I have no idea what that means!
Ok, well I give up then!

noun: verbosity

1. the fact or quality of using more words than needed; wordiness.
   "a critic with a reputation for verbosity"
   synonyms:wordiness, verboseness, loquacity, garrulity, talkativeness, volubility, expansiveness, babbling, blathering, waffling, prattling, prating, jabbering, gushing; More
   antonyms:brevity, taciturnity

At least ours only get thrown into jail, they don't "commit suicide." Really think you have freedom of speech? Shame you can't now ask Anthony Bourdain. I wonder if you could ask those who have crossed Hillary.

British Jihadis get the noose. Foreign Office says they are unaware... of course! Thank you Iraq!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5907137/British-jihadis-travel-Iraq-fight-ISIS-face-death-hanging.html

Jen doesn't give up sometimes.

I wasn't the one who threw the first punch.

Either way if I needed an eloborate presentation done I'd ask for DrManhatten.

On the occasion that we're having a heatwave.

Not sure if anyone was following: but this sure brought the beginnings of a smile today.

Hope they make it.

https://apnews.com/429b7945926d41d5a3ec70dc8de24f9d/Thai-rescuers-locate-missing-boys-and-coach-alive-in-cave?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true

What works for some doesn't always work for others.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-made-stink-bomb-doesn-t-deter-indian-protesters-1.5437095

Where dis?? Just when you think the left has outdone themselves!!

Some mindless communists.
https://wearetherabl.wordpress.com/