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  • #6,061
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:16am Jun 10, 2018 4:16am
Do you think this DLL is dangerous?
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  • #6,062
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:20am Jun 10, 2018 4:20am
Quoting BSFilter
This is why it is so dangerous. Red members here don't even understand the danger of a DLL ! {quote} {image}
I must agree with you here cos talking like this for you everything is clear dangerous.now go in win32 and delete all your dll's cos are dll and so dangerous.
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  • #6,063
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:21am Jun 10, 2018 4:21am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} I'm coder. More 25 years coding systems ( OS ). Do you think I dont understand? Or maybe I know when warnings are exaggerated
A coder for 25 years and you don't understand how a dll can be dangerous? Serious dude???

Maybe it's something I learnt in the last 5 years of my 30 years as a coder?
  • #6,064
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:22am Jun 10, 2018 4:22am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} I must agree with you here cos talking like this for you everything is clear dangerous.now go in win32 and delete all your dll's cos are dll and so dangerous.
Husky, I sometimes agree with you but mate, if you don't know what you're talking about, probably best to let the adults talk
  • #6,065
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:26am Jun 10, 2018 4:26am
Quoting BSFilter
{quote} Husky, I sometimes agree with you but mate, if you don't know what you're talking about, probably best to let the adults talk
lol
ok you adult guy.you talk i dont. in the end i really dont give a shit about it or about what others does in their own machines.is really not my job.cos i'm not adult yet
cheers!
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  • #6,066
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:30am Jun 10, 2018 4:30am
Quoting BSFilter
{quote} A coder for 25 years and you don't understand how a dll can be dangerous? Serious dude??? Maybe it's something I learnt in the last 5 years of my 30 years as a coder?
You are free to believe me or not but honestly I have enough stuff here for you get an idea. What did you show here for people think you are master in software security?
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  • #6,067
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:37am Jun 10, 2018 4:37am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} You are free to believe me or not but honestly I have enough stuff here for you get an idea. What did you show here for people think you are master in software security?
Who said I was a master in software security? Knowing what a dll can do is pretty much Computer Science 101. Hell, these days you can even spend 10 seconds searching google to know what a dll can do.

I really don't understand why you guys are attacking me when all I'm trying to do is protect people ??
  • #6,068
  • Edited 6:23am Jun 10, 2018 4:53am | Edited 6:23am
Quoting BSFilter
{quote} Who said I was a master in software security? Knowing what a dll can do is pretty much Computer Science 101. Hell, these days you can even spend 10 seconds searching google to know what a dll can do. I really don't understand why you guys are attacking me when all I'm trying to do is protect people ??
Because you are taking an exception ( that guy took account info) and you say its the common in mt4 stuff. Many coders here we are using win32 api and we dont have hidden intentions. Its ok warning but you just said tools uses DLL are trojans. This is not help to others. This is invent a problem dont exists really
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  • #6,069
  • Jun 10, 2018 6:12am Jun 10, 2018 6:12am
Quoting BSFilter
{quote} Who said I was a master in software security? Knowing what a dll can do is pretty much Computer Science 101. Hell, these days you can even spend 10 seconds searching google to know what a dll can do. I really don't understand why you guys are attacking me when all I'm trying to do is protect people ??
i really dont atack you.if you know more about what you say then i easy accept and step back.in the end is not my job to give security advices here,really.
cheer up
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  • #6,070
  • Edited 10:09am Jun 10, 2018 7:52am | Edited 10:09am
I have no desire to clutter this thread and I does not matter what you geeks think what DLLs can or cannot do. Ofcouse DLLs have a place in MT4 and I am sure I have some indicators that have to use DLLs for the benefit of trading. What you guys are going back and forth is irrelevant to the topic. There is always the good, the bad and the ugly and what should matter is the INTENT along with clear and concise "Terms of Use". Every legit software before being installed comes with a readme or disclaimer or legal write-up to educate the installer. That is never the case with any shit we download from forums. To say your anti-virus software will warm you in BS and irrelevant to the noob who is only focussed on how quickly he can make money with such lucarative looking EAs. Here is the evidence of desperate idiots using untested EAs directly on their Live accounts. There is no way of knowing what a DLL can do unless explicitly written by the developer as part of the post where the file is attached. To say it is "only" exposing Account Number or broker name or email address is retarded.

VeeFX: Never Enable DLLs in MT4 without knowing how it is used by the original developer

As a service to this community,
(1) this member is unethical and must be permanently banned plus delete all this uploaded files from the factory.
(2) Provide a sticky post somewhere on the forum to highlight the dangers of enabling DLLs
(3) Perhaps, even go far as to have FF update their Terms of Service to include an option to have some knowledgeable admin resource verify the trust and intent of such DLL-enabled files before any member can download the file.

We cannot completely block DLLs as they have legit uses in the MT4 space but some steps towards education and diligence is required within the context of service offered in this thread.

Let's not get in a pissing contest as we all mean well. Let's think creatively towards a solution to make this world a better place and pull the Factory out of this Swamp of idiots who are here to do harm and scam others.
Staying in my lane...
  • #6,071
  • Jun 10, 2018 11:18am Jun 10, 2018 11:18am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} a dll file without an exe nearby cant harm your pc ,because dll is not executable.dll is a resource for one executable file.you can see this if you delete one windows regular dll then you will not be able to run some programs asociated with that dll. but even so i dont recommend install unknown dll files in your pc.as long youre not programer you cant guess on what program from your windows is that dll associated,mostly on windows as Brain said.usual security softwares will see unknown dll files as bad and give you a warning even if one...
Thanks Husky77...
  • #6,072
  • Jun 10, 2018 12:50pm Jun 10, 2018 12:50pm
Quoting Husky77
{quote} a dll file without an exe nearby cant harm your pc ,because dll is not executable.dll is a resource for one executable file...
This is not true.
DLL's are not just dedicated resources, they contain executable code most of the time, and this code can be loaded and executed by any loaded app, if the developer knows how to use them.
  • #6,073
  • Jun 10, 2018 1:09pm Jun 10, 2018 1:09pm
crazy topic.

of course dll can be dangerous because they are very powerfull.
so it can be used to make all what is against the user, or help for easier programming or adding functions in metatrader as an example.

so it depends who is programming the code and for what reason.

but: of course often near all users cant see (because of the experience with coding) what dll is doing, so they have to trust the programmer in the describtion (if there is any), and thats the real risk, the programmer can be bad or good, honest or no honest - and most people cant see what informations and programs/code are opened/transfered/logged.....
  • #6,074
  • Jun 10, 2018 1:25pm Jun 10, 2018 1:25pm
Quoting Retep
{quote} This is not true. DLL's are not just dedicated resources, they contain executable code most of the time, and this code can be loaded and executed by any loaded app, if the developer knows how to use them.
ok you know more then is good. but in any case i dont use unknown dll's thats for sure and thats what i said.what i wrote was from my basic knowledge about.
i still dont see how a dll can be or act like an exe without another separate exe file nearby,cos i know you cant run a dll directly without to call an exe .
but heck i'm not such experienced on all this IT stuff.
and in the end this subject is not in the right place.
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  • #6,075
  • Jun 10, 2018 1:31pm Jun 10, 2018 1:31pm
Quoting Husky77
{quote} ok you know more then is good. but in any case i dont use unknown dll's thats for sure and thats what i said.what i wrote was from my basic knowledge about. i still dont see how a dll can be or act like an exe without another separate exe file nearby,cos i know you cant run a dll directly without to call an exe . but heck i'm not such experienced on all this IT stuff. and in the end this subject is not in the right place.
They watched "hackers" movie many times. You know, a few fast random pressed buttons and all computers will be under your control...

PS: Surf with browers is more dangerous than use a indicator with DLL enabled. You see meltdown and spectre and how google had patch chrome or even the scripts for mining BTCs...
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  • #6,076
  • Jun 10, 2018 1:49pm Jun 10, 2018 1:49pm
One reason for use DLL inside MT4 is this...
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  • #6,077
  • Jun 10, 2018 8:18pm Jun 10, 2018 8:18pm
Quoting pooh123
Just wanted to post some useful information for FractalFreak's worshipers. I would like to post it in FF's thread but he blocked me so I have to post it here. The data feed for FF's indicator is likely to be from Oanda forex lab. The screenshot shows an indicator Oandax Orderbook Chart. It shows open orders/positions for retail traders/DM. Google "Oandax" and you'll find it. You need use this indicator together with Oandax Download Manager EA in order to get data feed for the indicator. The beta version of the EA is free, while its non-beta version...
Pooh123 wins the internet tonight. Since I am an OANDA customer, I am going to check this out in the morning. Thanks, Pooh123!!!
  • #6,078
  • Edited 2:19am Jun 11, 2018 1:42am | Edited 2:19am
Please have a look here. Another big scam(BankersFX)

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...6#post11153616

Quoting horvat
So i had a look at the so called Volumes indicator(Thanks to the person who let me have a look at it) whose subscription cost 99euros a month. Out of curiosity i attached a freely available NRP Indicator and boom it gave me the exact results as the BankersFX Volume indicator. Its funny how a lot of so called senior traders are defending the OP or the Bankers website and indirectly supporting these scammers. There is no way in the world where such FX data could be made available for petty dollars. {image} According to the statistics shown on the website there are almost 353 subscribers, so if you take on average 300 who have subscribed for this indicators you have approx 30K euros monthly revenue generated from a petty moving average indicator which is being marketed as some holy grail. {image}
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  • #6,079
  • Jun 11, 2018 1:42am Jun 11, 2018 1:42am
this thread seems to be drifting away from scammers......
we need a house clean.
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  • #6,080
  • Jun 11, 2018 2:07am Jun 11, 2018 2:07am
Quoting billytt
this thread seems to be drifting away from scammers...... we need a house clean.
You're right Billy , but it seems to me that the wise 4xPIPAHOLIC ( founder of this thread ) warned the scammers & trolls .
Moreover, he has already begun to do some cleaning here...
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