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  • #6,041
  • Edited 10:19pm Jun 8, 2018 11:07am | Edited 10:19pm
Quoting FractalFreak
WHAT A JOKE! Now 'redoktober' is secretely contacting people! BUSTED! Admins are on it! FF {image}
Whatever I posted against Redoctober was not appropriate, so Im deleting it. "Words" shouldn't hurt anybody' personally or shouldn't be insulting to anybody. I support FF but I also should respect REdoctober as a person. Openions could differ... but I certainly acknowledge that dignity should be maintained.
I apologise for my immature words and behaviour.
  • #6,042
  • Edited 11:49am Jun 8, 2018 11:19am | Edited 11:49am
Quoting vinforex7
{quote} Lol.... Com'on FF, can't you see... redoktober is just desperate and probably depressed too? Now like a true Gentleman.. Please leave the poor guy alone, please....! You should be playing with people of your stature... only. Let the poor guy go to each and every person on the forum and make his requests... he has plenty of time... so let him do what suits him best...and if that' gives him at least a bit of consolation for his mind... support him please. Please be compassionate... I support #redAugust come on man.......
"make good use of your time" like you are doing as I see......
Look guy I do not see Red here crying ...while 'Freak' is sending all the patsies to spam this thread
Please take your pale and shovel and go play at another sandbox....
9 years I never ignored anyone but I think I was clear about this BS

4x
  • #6,043
  • Jun 8, 2018 11:25am Jun 8, 2018 11:25am
Quoting FractalFreak
dukas trader, you are a member of FF since 2010, you only did ONE thread on MT4 questions... If you really do have such a high understanding of markets as you claim, why don't you contribute sth. to the community here? If you do not want to, WHY are you here in the first place? Do sth. of VALUE for everyone here rather than being so destructive, please. Respectfully, FF
thats the point: when you are experienced you would know the answer to your question very easy!

but to help you in short sentences:
- i am a short term trader
- i use high trading amounts and buy near all whats in the market at the moment i buy until the spread look to high
- i dont teach trading methods i use, why, i could not use it any more: the reasons are easy and when you are no new trader you should know for your own, at least i hope so
- i try to teach some basics, how to find strategies, what basics are neccessary, what to avoid, what to do. and i correct bullshit and misleading facts when i see it and have time. teaching a stratgey is 100% worthless (same like live trade calls and so one, you will know it when oyu have more experience, simple math), teaching the bascis (and 1 part is how to find strategies that work) its the way to go. and even this teaching you cant do with many, or all would not work any more. and when someone tells how big is forexmarket, its not this big what people think about when its important what is possible to get for a good ask/bid price in the market in the time you want buy or you want sell, and thats the only important part.
- so people who ask for trade calls or whatever are allways the extrem unexperienced traders or traders with big problems in math who never leanred the basics step by step
- trading is so simple, because so many dont do it correct, when many do it correct, its not simple anymore. think about this twice. you can help some people who can think and have the ability to see hopw wrong they was, but in a forum its maybe 5%, not more. so i only write for this 5% of members, is so, but rest is not to help because they dont have any chnace because of their character and because they dont like to learn the basics (for whatever reason). and the 5% is guessing, maybe its 3% or 8%, but its near arround in my experience.

if you want say fish this kind, then its useless, tell them how they can learn fishing or correct wrong parts of fishing is only that can help. and so many are misleading wrong in forums, and cant see the truth and live in fantasy or fake /cheat many things.
  • #6,044
  • Jun 9, 2018 12:54pm Jun 9, 2018 12:54pm
To the OP and his Scam Prevention Army:

Woof Woof.... This guy seems dodgy and doing something completely ILLEGAL collecting private demo and live account data from members as part of this EA design. This nonsense must stop.

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...2#post11148302

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...7#post11145807

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...7#post11148247


Warning: NEVER DOWNLOAD ANY COMPILED EA or INDICATOR FROM FORUMS. Demand Source Code or move on!
Staying in my lane...
  • #6,045
  • Jun 9, 2018 4:20pm Jun 9, 2018 4:20pm
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Thanks for your report . It seems that Jack Kiss only asks $ 350 for 3 months... And the trading-camp in Bali , how much will it cost ? {image}
I made this post about Trader Jack Kiss as the initial subscription turns out to be a signal service with very little trading instruction or insight to his trading methodology, he recommends you sign up for his trade copier service. So if you are looking to lean about fundies and forex trading in general you will be wasting ur money.

PS: His last Bootcamp was in Bali and cost $2400 in addition to your flight and hotel.

This guy is in start up mode so I am sure his prices will just keep increasing.
  • #6,046
  • Jun 9, 2018 7:04pm Jun 9, 2018 7:04pm
Quoting ozziedave
{quote} I made this post about Trader Jack Kiss as the initial subscription turns out to be a signal service with very little trading instruction or insight to his trading methodology, he recommends you sign up for his trade copier service. So if you are looking to lean about fundies and forex trading in general you will be wasting ur money. PS: His last Bootcamp was in Bali and cost $2400 in addition to your flight and hotel. This guy is in start up mode so I am sure his prices will just keep increasing.
with so much free info on trading, like everywhere. why? would anyone pay someone to learn how to trade?

throw in that you don't know anything, about the person that is asking for money.

think for your self, be your own guru.
  • #6,047
  • Jun 9, 2018 10:53pm Jun 9, 2018 10:53pm
Quoting VEEFX
To the OP and his Scam Prevention Army: Woof Woof.... This guy seems dodgy and doing something completely ILLEGAL collecting private demo and live account data from members as part of this EA design. This nonsense must stop. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...2#post11148302 https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...7#post11145807 https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...7#post11148247 Warning: NEVER DOWNLOAD ANY COMPILED...

I wouldn't call this a "scam" per se. He was dishonest in not being upfront on the information he was collecting. But as soon as I called him on it in his thread, he admitted it and amended his first post to let people know he was collecting that data. AFAIC it's now caveat emptor.

Compiled code in itself is not the problem. MT4 is quite good at keeping a "standard" EA or indicator within its own sandbox. The problem comes when the author forces you to allow DLL access or communication with their website, as was the case with this EA which had my alarm bells ringing in the first place. Once you allow them that access then you can open yourself to a world of pain!!
  • #6,048
  • Jun 9, 2018 10:55pm Jun 9, 2018 10:55pm
Quoting dogdays713
{quote} with so much free info on trading, like everywhere. why? would anyone pay someone to learn how to trade? throw in that you don't know anything, about the person that is asking for money. think for your self, be your own guru.
I think some needs a personal level motivation, for real or as perception.
Everyone knows to eat less and exercise, and there is plenty YT videos and countless forums.
Yet there is a large supply of personal trainers....and a steady demand for that service.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #6,049
  • Jun 9, 2018 11:10pm Jun 9, 2018 11:10pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} I think some needs a personal level motivation, for real or as perception. Everyone knows to eat less and exercise, and there is plenty YT videos and countless forums. Yet there is a large supply of personal trainers....and a steady demand for that service.
Very true.
  • #6,050
  • Edited Jun 10, 2018 8:30pm Jun 9, 2018 11:29pm | Edited Jun 10, 2018 8:30pm
Quoting BSFilter
{quote} I wouldn't call this a "scam" per se. He was dishonest in not being upfront on the information he was collecting. But as soon as I called him on it in his thread, he admitted it and amended his first post to let people know he was collecting that data. AFAIC it's now caveat emptor. Compiled code in itself is not the problem. MT4 is quite good at keeping a "standard" EA or indicator within its own sandbox. The problem comes when the author forces you to allow DLL access or communication with their website, as was the case with this EA which...
Agree on the DLL. It's the devil in the windows environment that can do so much damage without anyone knowing anything about it. Because of that and many other reasons, I would never download an ex4 file at all...made it a principle a long time ago. A developer must be transparent by providing source code and not just the ex4 file.

Regarding not being honest. It is too late for those you already downloaded without knowing about the tracking feature. One member's privacy exposed is simply one too many. The bar must be set high by FF admins. I have said this several times...I am here only because this site offer annonimity and protections of privacy. If that is not the case, then a lot, many if not all members will leave the factory. Many, if not all have full time jobs and consider FX to be their Hobby, serving their lonely souls with chitchats. Try to force them to expose their real identity and only an idiot would want to tie a trade explorer to their real accounts.

If this developer was based in the USA and I had downloaded his off the shelf EA, he would be served with a legal court order at sun rise. That I can guarantee for sure. These things cannot be taken lightly even on public forums. This is not just a privacy issue. This also falls under criminal intent as in theft of stealing personally identifiable information (PII). With GDPR, going into effect, things are definitely going to help and protect the consumer.
Staying in my lane...
  • #6,051
  • Edited 8:14am Jun 10, 2018 12:54am | Edited 8:14am
Just wanted to post some useful information for FractalFreak's worshipers. I would like to post it in FF's thread but he blocked me so I have to post it here.

The data feed for FF's indicator is likely to be from Oanda forex lab. The screenshot shows an indicator Oandax Orderbook Chart. It shows open orders/positions for retail traders/DM. Google "Oandax" and you'll find it. You need use this indicator together with Oandax Download Manager EA in order to get data feed for the indicator. The beta version of the EA is free, while its non-beta version is charged. This indicator is similar to the one FF has been showing. If you're a coder, you can code an indicator exactly like FF's, with data feed from Oanda forex lab. Some related information: http://developer.oanda.com/rest-live/forex-labs/
Hope FF's worshipers find the information useful.

I noticed that, when I posted a link to a thread involving Oanda order book information, FFreak disliked it to hide it from public view. Then someone posted a link that mentions Oandax, FFreak disliked it to hide it from public view again. In both posts there were no attacks on FFreak at all, yet he wanted to hide them from public view. Hope this post demystifies things for the worshipers.

From now on, if any of FF's worshipers posts those #support shit here, direct him to this post, for his benefit. It will make FFreak's manipulation backfire a little.

P.S.
Information is power. You control information, you control people. Manipulators often hide information.
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  • #6,052
  • Jun 10, 2018 1:14am Jun 10, 2018 1:14am
Quoting BSFilter
{quote} I wouldn't call this a "scam" per se. He was dishonest in not being upfront on the information he was collecting. But as soon as I called him on it in his thread, he admitted it and amended his first post to let people know he was collecting that data. AFAIC it's now caveat emptor. Compiled code in itself is not the problem. MT4 is quite good at keeping a "standard" EA or indicator within its own sandbox. The problem comes when the author forces you to allow DLL access or communication with their website, as was the case with this EA which...
BSFilter,

What are some of the ways it can damage{when one enables DLL)?

Thanks
  • #6,053
  • Jun 10, 2018 1:54am Jun 10, 2018 1:54am
Quoting pooh123
Just wanted to post some useful information for FractalFreak's worshipers. I would like to post it in FF's thread but he blocked me so I have to post it here. The data feed for FF's indicator is likely to be from Oanda forex lab. The screenshot shows an indicator Oandax Orderbook Chart. It shows open orders/positions for retail traders/DM. Google "Oandax" and you'll find it. You need use this indicator together with Oandax Download Manager EA in order to get data feed for the indicator. The beta version of the EA is free, while its non-beta version...
Pooh123...
  • #6,054
  • Jun 10, 2018 3:29am Jun 10, 2018 3:29am
Quoting aaven
{quote} BSFilter, What are some of the ways it can damage{when one enables DLL)? Thanks
Depending on the ability of the coder, literally anything they want to do. Giving permissions to run a DLL is like giving someone access to run anything they want on your PC. So they could log your keystrokes, steal passwords, run other programs, wipe your machine, basically anything they want to do.
  • #6,055
  • Edited 4:41am Jun 10, 2018 4:16am | Edited 4:41am
Quoting BSFilter
{quote} Depending on the ability of the coder, literally anything they want to do. Giving permissions to run a DLL is like giving someone access to run anything they want on your PC. So they could log your keystrokes, steal passwords, run other programs, wipe your machine, basically anything they want to do.
MT4 shows what methods and DLLs you are using in tool. Normally coders access to windows and other not dangerous stuff
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #6,056
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:33am Jun 10, 2018 4:33am
Quoting BSFilter
{quote} Depending on the ability of the coder, literally anything they want to do. Giving permissions to run a DLL is like giving someone access to run anything they want on your PC. So they could log your keystrokes, steal passwords, run other programs, wipe your machine, basically anything they want to do.
Thanks BSFilter... One follow up question, can the coder access our computer even when the MT4(in which we give permission to run DLL) is not running?
  • #6,057
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:41am Jun 10, 2018 4:41am
Quoting aaven
{quote} Thanks BSFilter... One follow up question, can the coder access our computer even when the MT4(in which we give permission to run DLL) is not running?
a dll file without an exe nearby cant harm your pc ,because dll is not executable.dll is a resource for one executable file.you can see this if you delete one windows regular dll then you will not be able to run some programs asociated with that dll.
but even so i dont recommend install unknown dll files in your pc.as long youre not programer you cant guess on what program from your windows is that dll associated,mostly on windows as Brain said.usual security softwares will see unknown dll files as bad and give you a warning even if one single dll cant harm you,the warning is given because of bad reputation of that dll and the association have with some bad exe files.
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #6,058
  • Jun 10, 2018 4:44am Jun 10, 2018 4:44am
Is not good create false alarms about this. Get account info can be used only for 2 things. MM and gossip info. But nobody will stole anything doing it...
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #6,059
  • Jun 10, 2018 6:09am Jun 10, 2018 6:09am
This is why it is so dangerous. Red members here don't even understand the danger of a DLL !

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a dll file without an exe nearby cant harm your pc
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  • #6,060
  • Jun 10, 2018 6:13am Jun 10, 2018 6:13am
Quoting BSFilter
This is why it is so dangerous. Red members here don't even understand the danger !
I'm coder. More 25 years coding systems ( OS ). Do you think I dont understand? Or maybe I know when warnings are exaggerated
Try don't lose pants never...
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