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  • #24,661
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:33am Jun 8, 2018 6:33am
Dollar index 15m
Better view as always
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yes yes yes
  • #24,662
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:38am Jun 8, 2018 6:38am
Quoting Godzilla
{quote} agreed. it is sharp but it still fits only just within all the fibo ratios that indicate high probability pullback. additionally 1840 top wasnt finished
I would suggest 11880 ish will be a level it will hit then another pullback. Then through 119. At the moment I'm trading this pair too 122 unless it starts heading to 11650 then that idea is finished.
rat
  • #24,663
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:40am Jun 8, 2018 6:40am
if you check APRIL , MAY and JUNE all friday

if in start it comes down all day it will come down

if it start up all day it will be up


but in night it will retrace just a little

just 2 Fridays between these 3 months have ranging where there is no clear movement all other have 1 way traffic

i think this friday also all day down and at night it will retrace little up and then on monday in opening market will leave gap on up side i am new still learning but i just want to get in to something so in pressure i dont lose more money and i want to be in patience to recover this lose which is still running
  • #24,664
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:42am Jun 8, 2018 6:42am
Quoting rattyo
{quote} I would suggest 11880 ish will be a level it will hit then another pullback. Then through 119. At the moment I'm trading this pair too 122 unless it starts heading to 11650 then that idea is finished.
lets wait till we are at 1840 and observe how it got there. i see a top at 1860/90. but will know better when we are there.
  • #24,666
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:52am Jun 8, 2018 6:52am
Quoting samekhanok
if you check APRIL , MAY and JUNE all friday if in start it comes down all day it will come down if it start up all day it will be up but in night it will retrace just a little just 2 Fridays between these 3 months have ranging where there is no clear movement all other have 1 way traffic i think this friday also all day down and at night it will retrace little up and then on monday in opening market will leave gap on up side i am new still learning but i just want to get in to something so in pressure i dont lose more money and i want to be in...
All I can say is this my friend: you probably ended up in your mess with theories like this.. I am still recommending that you close all trades and leave.. Your losses are already "fixed" as soon as you open a hedge.. It is funny how even experienced traders don't know that hedging a trade is nothing else than closing a trade (but by paying broker an extra fee + extra swap that adds each day it is kept open.. But anyways.. I warned people so many times that I finally gave up.. I know you will not be the last.. "Life" is the best teacher.. Wishing you still good luck with a big sigh..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #24,667
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:52am Jun 8, 2018 6:52am
Levels of potential re-trace. HERE
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  • #24,668
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:54am Jun 8, 2018 6:54am
I think it will range between 1.1730 and 1.1760. If it breaks 1.1760 it will go higher.
  • #24,669
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:55am Jun 8, 2018 6:55am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} All I can say is this my friend: you probably ended up in your mess with theories like this.. I am still recommending that you close all trades and leave.. Your losses are already "fixed" as soon as you open a hedge.. It is funny how even experienced traders don't know that hedging a trade is nothing else than closing a trade (but by paying broker an extra fee + extra swap that adds each day it is kept open.. But anyways.. I warned people so many times that I finally gave up.. I know you will not be the last.. "Life" is the best teacher.....
I happen to hedge a lot but I intraday trade scalp alot intraday markets range 80% of the time if you know how to do it lot of money I can show you.
rat
  • #24,670
  • Jun 8, 2018 6:57am Jun 8, 2018 6:57am
Quoting rattyo
{quote} I happen to hedge a lot but I intraday trade scalp alot intraday markets range 80% of the time if you know how to do it lot of money I can show you.
Another big sigh.. again: do what is best for you.. I am tired of dealing with hedgers..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #24,671
  • Jun 8, 2018 7:00am Jun 8, 2018 7:00am
Quoting fx17
I think it will range between 1.1730 and 1.1760. If it breaks 1.1760 it will go higher.
Looking for weekly close @ 1.1761 +-
  • #24,672
  • Jun 8, 2018 7:02am Jun 8, 2018 7:02am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} Another big sigh.. again: do what is best for you.. I am tired of dealing with hedgers.. Stay Green
thats right many ways to skin a cat in the market Ata
rat
  • #24,673
  • Jun 8, 2018 7:18am Jun 8, 2018 7:18am
If price goes back to 1.1730 it will mean more sell is coming.. Otherwise keep longs if any..

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  • #24,674
  • Jun 8, 2018 7:25am Jun 8, 2018 7:25am
1650 is the holding line for bulls for me.
Price at the top side of the lower structure.
4hr upside momentum finished.
Daily still pointing up.
/r
  • #24,675
  • Jun 8, 2018 7:34am Jun 8, 2018 7:34am
Why the eur/usd is still bullish for now .
The price came back up after he go below 50% correction = bullish
The price find support in ema 50 = bullish
The price came back from testinf the high of yesterday = bollish
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  • #24,676
  • Jun 8, 2018 7:40am Jun 8, 2018 7:40am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} All I can say is this my friend: you probably ended up in your mess with theories like this.. I am still recommending that you close all trades and leave.. Your losses are already "fixed" as soon as you open a hedge.. It is funny how even experienced traders don't know that hedging a trade is nothing else than closing a trade (but by paying broker an extra fee + extra swap that adds each day it is kept open.. But anyways.. I warned people so many times that I finally gave up.. I know you will not be the last.. "Life" is the best teacher.....

On the hedging thing:
You can NOT hedge on the same account within the same instrument.
If you want to do it right, you need a dedicated hedging portfolio on a seperate account, and you hedge percentage risk of your main portfolio, by trading different instruments and correlations, increasing and decreasing risk within both portfolios against each other, in order to keep the total risk managable, depending on risk on/off phases and total capitalisation... (and and and...)
Proper hedging on a private level is a complicated process and if you don't run at least a dedicated account for it, don't even think about it.
Betting against yourself on the same instrument in the same private trading account is not "hedging". It's stupid.

Rather focus on quality trades and consistancy instead of creating a complicated mess that ends up with a busted account and an open outcry in an internetforum, at best...
If you don't need a hedging account for very specific reasons, you don't run one!
As a private Retail trader, it makes no sense at all.

Have a nice weekend peeps
you are not expected to understand this
  • #24,677
  • Jun 8, 2018 8:00am Jun 8, 2018 8:00am
Quoting Teek
Betting against yourself on the same instrument in the same private trading account is not "hedging". It's stupid.
We'll agree on disagree on this one, I think hedging when done well has a place, and can stop you from losing money while making you money. Just like everything else though, it relies on skill and experience to get it right, and you need to know when to call it quits to prevent that "mess" scenario you mentioned.

For me on eu at the moment, I am looking to unwind shorts ahead of the weekend and further G7 meetings, I am wondering whether to wait for a lower lower and run the risk of losing the opportunity to sell here, or just take profit here.

I feel like it would make sense for eu to touch 1.172 or so before the weekend.
  • #24,678
  • Jun 8, 2018 8:03am Jun 8, 2018 8:03am
Quoting Teek
{quote} On the hedging thing: You can NOT hedge on the same account within the same instrument. If you want to do it right, you need a dedicated hedging portfolio on a seperate account, and you hedge percentage risk of your main portfolio, by trading different instruments and correlations, increasing and decreasing risk within both portfolios against each other, in order to keep the total risk managable, depending on risk on/off phases and total capitalisation... (and and and...) Proper hedging on a private level is a complicated process and if...
Thanks for your effort on putting a well explained supportive post.. I intentionally kept my silence to make this discussion disappear because I know very well that it is a never ending story..

Let's move on by posting around EURUSD..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #24,679
  • Jun 8, 2018 8:04am Jun 8, 2018 8:04am
Quoting Starcraftmaz
{quote} We'll agree on disagree on this one, I think hedging when done well has a place, and can stop you from losing money while making you money. Just like everything else though, it relies on skill and experience to get it right, and you need to know when to call it quits to prevent that "mess" scenario you mentioned. For me on eu at the moment, I am looking to unwind shorts ahead of the weekend and further G7 meetings, I am wondering whether to wait for a lower lower and run the risk of losing the opportunity to sell here, or just take profit...
Sighs... again can we stop this discussion and move on please.. Thanks..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #24,680
  • Jun 8, 2018 8:06am Jun 8, 2018 8:06am
Quoting Starcraftmaz
{quote} We'll agree on disagree on this one, I think hedging when done well has a place, and can stop you from losing money while making you money. Just like everything else though, it relies on skill and experience to get it right, and you need to know when to call it quits to prevent that "mess" scenario you mentioned. For me on eu at the moment, I am looking to unwind shorts ahead of the weekend and further G7 meetings, I am wondering whether to wait for a lower lower and run the risk of losing the opportunity to sell here, or just take profit...
Big news event next week.
I wouldnt do anything until then.
/r
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