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  • #21
  • May 25, 2018 6:07am May 25, 2018 6:07am
People who tease like this without proof of anything are

a) scammers who will try to sell the bs later

b) people with very tiny dicks who would like to feel superior when people begging in dmīs for their bs-secrets
TWEE, revoke my membership.
  • #22
  • May 25, 2018 6:11am May 25, 2018 6:11am
Quoting Bartleby
People who tease like this without proof of anything are a) scammers who will try to sell the bs later b) people with very tiny dicks who would like to feel superior when people begging in dmīs for their bs-secrets

Amen to that, my vote would be b
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  • #23
  • May 25, 2018 6:18am May 25, 2018 6:18am
You guys sound like a bunch of weirdos worrying about what another man is wearing or something like that...very strange...Who cares if someone say's they have secrets but they are not telling you....that should be almost given in a business like this...And if you are so gullible to fall for them asking for monetary means to give you secret sauce then you really are special..and many times when people show you charts without explaining what they are doing it's because they aren't doing anything special...wisen up a bit chaps
  • #24
  • May 25, 2018 6:24am May 25, 2018 6:24am
Quoting yanetjellen
You guys sound like a bunch of weirdos worrying about what another man is wearing or something like that...very strange...Who cares if someone say's they have secrets but they are not telling you....that should be almost given in a business like this...And if you are so gullible to fall for them asking for monetary means to give you secret sauce then you really are special
? What is wrong with adressing bad asshole human behavior and just telling the people you donīt like such behavior? Thats weird for you?

Do you feel the critic of such behavior is especially towards you? We got a saying in germany: "getroffene Hunde bellen" ... "hit dogs bark"...
TWEE, revoke my membership.
  • #25
  • May 25, 2018 6:26am May 25, 2018 6:26am
Quoting yanetjellen
You guys sound like a bunch of weirdos worrying about what another man is wearing or something like that...very strange...Who cares if someone say's they have secrets but they are not telling you....that should be almost given in a business like this...And if you are so gullible to fall for them asking for monetary means to give you secret sauce then you really are special

You are the fun one here, let me help you:

 

  1. of course there are secrets
  2. of course secrets can't/won't be shared
  3. of course there are successful people
  4. of course every one is entitled what to share and what not to share

We are not discussing any of these, we simply don't care. We just care about one question.

Why would SANE person say I've got a secret but won't share?

Either you have a secret and you share it or not, up to you. But to say you have something and don't want to share, I think you need to go and see your doctors.

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  • #26
  • May 25, 2018 6:28am May 25, 2018 6:28am
Quoting Bartleby
{quote} ? What is wrong with adressing bad asshole human behavior and just telling the people you donīt like such behavior? Thats weird for you? Do you feel the critic of such behavior is especially towards you? We got a saying in germany: "getroffene Hunde bellen" ... "hit dogs bark"...

He simply doesn't get it. It's not about trading, it can happen in any area in life, when we were kids, we made fun of kids who say:

la la la la we have secret but won't tell you, and I'm sure many of us remember these days and such kids
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  • #27
  • May 25, 2018 6:35am May 25, 2018 6:35am
IDk but before I had a profitable system , it was always nice to know that there were indeed other traders out there trading for a living , even if they didn't explain how.
I don't believe it should be a problem if a trader is willing to tell other that they are missing pieces of the puzzle as it provide motivation to others willing to work toward success. Trading is simple but trader go through alot emotionally become they get it right , as well as investment of years so it not fair to except anyone to share a profitable system for free.
PS: no profitable trader will ever sell a system more than once, as once the capital is raise the system will work it magic and such trader won't need money anymore.
  • #28
  • May 25, 2018 6:37am May 25, 2018 6:37am
Quoting Bartleby
People who tease like this without proof of anything are a) scammers who will try to sell the bs later b) people with very tiny dicks who would like to feel superior when people begging in dmīs for their bs-secrets
ROFL
POW!
  • #29
  • May 25, 2018 6:40am May 25, 2018 6:40am
Quoting AmmaBoss
IDk but before I had a profitable system , it was always nice to know that there were indeed other traders out there trading for a living , even if they didn't explain how. I don't believe it should be a problem if a trader is willing to tell other that they are missing pieces of the puzzle as it provide motivation to others willing to work toward success. Trading is simple but trader go through alot emotionally become they get it right , as well as investment of years so it not fair to except anyone to share a profitable system for free. PS: no...

Thread starter is not worried about that he only wants to talk about Dr. Phil issues here...He still hasn't realized he's being trolled by most of the people doing this and can't figure out why humans love to troll each other even from an early age
  • #30
  • May 25, 2018 6:48am May 25, 2018 6:48am
It's a simple really:

 

  1. You have a secret

    1. Share it: people will appreciate it regardless if you prove it or not, if it works or not, and the moment you share it's not a secret.
    2. Don't share it but don't say I have a secret because you will make fun of yourself like many "pros" here


  2. You don't have a secret

    1. Nothing to share



A very highly member here who stopped posting long time ago and many follow him, where he detailed his method from a to z and yet no one managed to reflect his performance, if you look at his posts (less 100 ) you will see he was selective in his setup, when asked how/why, obviously he didn't answer.

So here you go, the secret is not a secret when shared, if you select number of setups, so really people shouldn't care about his method.

Yet many believed in him and still follow...

Amazing, isn't?


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  • #31
  • May 25, 2018 6:56am May 25, 2018 6:56am
The oldest scammer trick in the world:
if someone approaches you with a secret then in reality he completely sucks.
  • #32
  • May 25, 2018 7:09am May 25, 2018 7:09am
Quoting Rennaissance
The more people use it the edge turns to erase itself.
We (retail traders) are a drop in the ocean ... no matter how good we are, our trading won't make any difference on the market.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #33
  • May 25, 2018 7:11am May 25, 2018 7:11am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} We (retail traders) are a drop in the ocean ... no matter how good we are, our trading won't make any difference on the market.

He's implying the big guns getting a hold of a method i guess
  • #34
  • May 25, 2018 7:18am May 25, 2018 7:18am
Quoting zghnno
{quote} Don't make it personal, if someone in the streets, knocked on your door and told you they have a secret (regardless of it) but won't tell you, what do you make of them? If you have few secrets but you won't share, WHAT IS THE POINT OF SAYING "you have few secrets but you won't share"? By the way, no one cares!
if your neighbor has a swimming pool but you cant swim in it, does it bother you?

he isnt knocking on your door, but you looked from your window and seen it.
is that change anything?

if one point he start to collect some fees to ppl wanting to swim on hot days, and deem it to be fair, will that change the way you take your shower in your bathroom?
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #35
  • May 25, 2018 7:21am May 25, 2018 7:21am
Quoting zghnno
Anyone knows why many gurus, pros, red flag users, tease others on this forum. So it goes like this: Someone post a question or topic to discuss Pros come in and and start BS, you can't do this or that, instead They start to tease the op by giving hints, pretending they know it but at the same time They say something like I don't want to to tell you Seriously if you don't want to say it, don't. Why on earth you say something like... I'll not give you the answer but open a chart and do this or that. Some BS even post charts or screen shots or trades...
I know the answer... But I won't tell.
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  • #36
  • May 25, 2018 7:23am May 25, 2018 7:23am
The Key, the Secret
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Cry me a river
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  • #37
  • May 25, 2018 7:26am May 25, 2018 7:26am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} if your neighbor has a swimming pool but you cant swim in it, does it bother you? he isnt knocking on your door, but you looked from your window and seen it. is that change anything? if one point he start to collect some fees to ppl wanting to swim on hot days, and deem it to be fair, will that change the way you take your shower in your bathroom?

Again, you missing the point, it is so obvious:

 

  1. You want to be commercial, that's fine
  2. You want to sell something, that's fine
  3. You want to tell/say something, partially or completely, that's fine.

What is not fine, is to tell that you know something, secret edge etc, but won't to share it. It's a problem for you before others.

This thread is looking for the answer of this unexplained behavior

Now for your example, I think you need to tell me how you will feel about your neighbor because I'll call him idiot.

The reason for calling him idiot is a) I didn't ask if he has pool or not b) I didn't ask him to swim in it c) he came to my house (my thread here) and told me about something that does not benefit me or any one else for that matter.

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  • #38
  • May 25, 2018 7:35am May 25, 2018 7:35am
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Pearls to swine....
  • #39
  • May 25, 2018 7:43am May 25, 2018 7:43am
Quoting zghnno
{quote} Again, you missing the point, it is so obvious: You want to be commercial, that's fine You want to sell something, that's fine You want to tell/say something, partially or completely, that's fine. What is not fine, is to tell that you know something, secret edge etc, but won't to share it. It's a problem for you before others. This thread is looking for the answer of this unexplained behavior Now for your example, I think you need to tell me how you will feel about your neighbor because I'll call him idiot. The reason for...
a) he is not talking to you
b) he doesnt care if you like what he has
c) dont open your 'door' to strangers you dont know....plus you only know it doesnt benefit you something after you told what it is.

conclusion:
you create yourself a headache here. unclear why. when you interested in something, from someone, you ask, and accept the answer you get, or not get.
in case of trading, often it is some idea or direction that is needed more than the exact solution, what even if stare in your face may not be of use.
other times, it is hard to quantify things by exact measure, and you may deem it in your mind a "secret" in turn.
how much is a 'pinch of salt'?

i would think that most case these you referring to think that a later point they may want to do something where that "secret" in their mind is value; and maybe is, thus dont want to part it easily.
else
share for exchange of something, like similar value, information, help, work on project, but not cash. probably you aware that lots of interaction work on mutual benefits...in your own case there is zero input on offer, likely?

anyway, some speeches coming up soon, back to trading
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #40
  • May 25, 2018 8:04am May 25, 2018 8:04am
The only thread you will ever need: FX Exposed!
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=11099434

Classic example of a clear motive to go commercial after. It is very simple, gain enough popularity then lure the newbies. Someone said 50% will be converted into sales and that's just about right. Heck, maybe even more on this desperate forum because everyone is trying to make a quick buck. That's how that got us into this field aint it?

Forexfactory will usually allow it to go for a while ( for traffic purposes), then will move the thread to commercial section soon. Seen this thousands of times here.

It's just different methods being pacakaged into beautiful looking words to lure all the victims. That's the world we live in now.
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