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  • #13,541
  • Edited 7:39am May 11, 2018 7:24am | Edited 7:39am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Good to know! I always buy organic, corn fed here rather than the factory ones. They're about 3 times the price. My philosophy is eat quality meat, but a lot less of it. However, the masses are the same here, quantity over quality and they wonder why they get ill. The difference is the taxpayer picks up the mess here.

I imagine it is no different in America where certain illnesses are attributed to eating the toxic food chain. I think about things like "Wonder bread", Heavily refined sugars in food brought to you from products like Kelloggs, General Mills, and others. Remembering why McDonalds taste different, as I reflected a while why that may be, could be the sugars they use in their breads, as well as the meats they use in America are not the same standards as what is being used in the UK and Europe. For me personally, I always have been a Burger King fan, it always tasted better than McDonalds, but haven't eaten that stuff in many years.
  • #13,542
  • May 11, 2018 7:30am May 11, 2018 7:30am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} I can imagine the reaction of the Europhiles if you told them that not all meat produced in the USA is washed with chlorine and stuffed full of hormones. None of them would believe you
Sadly, I think you may be right. What is interesting to note, (and I am surprised this hasn't come up more often, but is probably suppressed by the multi-national corporations who poison our food source), is that young teenage girls having very large breast sizes at a very young age, say at the age of 12 or younger, are almost fully developed and I wonder if there is a correlation between the food and milk in our supply chain that is causing that strange occurrence. Also breast cancer among older women in America has increased over the years as well. The latter maybe harder to pinpoint a correlation to the foods, as abortion is more closely associated with that as one major contributing factor, but it is hard to ignore the abnormal breast sizes in young girls.
  • #13,543
  • May 11, 2018 7:45am May 11, 2018 7:45am
Quoting jen101
{quote} If the EU was simply about food standards, I would have voted remain. The good chickens from the US wouldn't be cost effective to import. They were only talking of the really big, cheap chlorine washed ones. We feed our chickens with antibiotics, but the US washes them in chlorine instead. That only disinfects the skin. What about the meat? Another thing with our chickens, we use different species for eating and for egg laying. All about productivity. So the male chicks of the egg laying species all get dropped into a giant macerator, alive....
"The good chickens from the US wouldn't be cost effective to import."

I am not so sure about that. When I was traveling and living in Asia a number of years ago, I noticed a lot of organic foods such as chickens, eggs, Milk came from New Zealand. I wonder if they can make it cost effective to export to other countries why can't the EU do the same by importing them? Anyway, free range chickens that is corn fed is the way to go! I miss living on the farm!
  • #13,544
  • May 11, 2018 7:52am May 11, 2018 7:52am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Sadly, I think you may be right. What is interesting to note, (and I am surprised this hasn't come up more often, but is probably suppressed by the multi-national corporations who poison our food source), is that young teenage girls having very large breast sizes at a very young age, say at the age of 12 or younger, are almost fully developed and I wonder if there is a correlation between the food and milk in our supply chain that is causing that strange occurrence. Also breast cancer among older women in America has increased over the years...
Some years back (about 30) I saw pictures in one of the MSM magazines were the effects of fiddling with food were being examined. Some infants in Italy were starting to develop breasts and that was assigned to the use of hormones in chicken feed.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #13,545
  • May 11, 2018 8:51am May 11, 2018 8:51am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Some years back (about 30) I saw pictures in one of the MSM magazines were the effects of fiddling with food were being examined. Some infants in Italy were starting to develop breasts and that was assigned to the use of hormones in chicken feed.

That is interesting. I will have to look deeper into this subject matter as such possible correlations are hard to ignore.
  • #13,546
  • May 11, 2018 8:53am May 11, 2018 8:53am
Apparently someone here pointed out by providing me with conflicting information that my assumptions of increased breast cancer rates in the US is false. If someone else can provide info that supports this I would greatly appreciate it. So far from the information that I have gleaned over suggests that indeed a rise in Breast cancer rates, have steadily increased since the early 90's. I can't find the sources but if I am incorrect about this then I will gladly admit it as being so.
  • #13,547
  • May 11, 2018 8:58am May 11, 2018 8:58am
https://youtu.be/lROo5nCNvgk

This is guy is simply brilliant and the right anecdote within a time were someone like him is badly needed to put things straight that can't be hidden.
  • #13,548
  • May 11, 2018 9:01am May 11, 2018 9:01am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Uh No! He shouldn't shut up. But clearly if people like you are reacting with such angst, bitterness and BS then he must be stirring and doing something right. The only people who don't get what he meant are the bed wetters and the mentally challenged! Which one are you? For someone who likes to advocate freedom of speech but does the opposite by calling for someone's silence is the definition of "Hypocrite. Yeah keep doing your mental gymnastics we might begin to think that it is you that is the closet racist!
That is total BS, a typical right wing of trying to frame the argument. If Kanye meant one thing, he should have said that, full stop.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,549
  • May 11, 2018 9:03am May 11, 2018 9:03am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} "The good chickens from the US wouldn't be cost effective to import." I am not so sure about that. When I was traveling and living in Asia a number of years ago, I noticed a lot of organic foods such as chickens, eggs, Milk came from New Zealand. I wonder if they can make it cost effective to export to other countries why can't the EU do the same by importing them? Anyway, free range chickens that is corn fed is the way to go! I miss living on the farm!
Why, why, why do we get New Zealand lamb and lots of it when our country is full of sheep (of the animal kind)? They can't choose somewhere further to import from.
  • #13,550
  • May 11, 2018 9:04am May 11, 2018 9:04am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Why, why, why do we get New Zealand lamb and lots of it when our country is full of sheep (of the animal kind)? They can't choose somewhere further to import from.
You know the answer, follow the money!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,551
  • May 11, 2018 9:07am May 11, 2018 9:07am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} You know the answer, follow the money!
How can New Zealand do it that much cheaper and it is still cheaper after transportation? Lamb is pretty organic anyway, so it is not as if they pump them full of growth hormones. Nowadays I always buy British when I can. New Zealand lamb is sinewy, British is far superior!
  • #13,552
  • May 11, 2018 9:11am May 11, 2018 9:11am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} That is total BS, a typical right wing of trying to frame the argument. If Kanye meant one thing, he should have said that, full stop.

Right wing! Yeah sure! When you can't defend your original statement, pull out the right wing card! You are pathetic at times!
Majority of people understood what he said, and the only thing BS is your argument in suggesting that he should shut up!
  • #13,553
  • May 11, 2018 9:12am May 11, 2018 9:12am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Sadly, I think you may be right. What is interesting to note, (and I am surprised this hasn't come up more often, but is probably suppressed by the multi-national corporations who poison our food source), is that young teenage girls having very large breast sizes at a very young age, say at the age of 12 or younger, are almost fully developed and I wonder if there is a correlation between the food and milk in our supply chain that is causing that strange occurrence. Also breast cancer among older women in America has increased over the years...
Breast cancer rates are highest in the US and Holland, where the consumption of milk is also the highest.

I remember posting something a while ago, listing all the nasties you find in milk... It doesn't make pleasant reading. My kids and I don't drink milk, or very little rarely. I only have it in tea, because nothing else works!
  • #13,554
  • May 11, 2018 9:15am May 11, 2018 9:15am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Why, why, why do we get New Zealand lamb and lots of it when our country is full of sheep (of the animal kind)? They can't choose somewhere further to import from.

Maybe the demand has risen due to your newly imported citizens who love lamb and can't eat pork!
  • #13,555
  • May 11, 2018 9:17am May 11, 2018 9:17am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Breast cancer rates are highest in the US and Holland, where the consumption of milk is also the highest. I remember posting something a while ago, listing all the nasties you find in milk... It doesn't make pleasant reading. My kids and I don't drink milk, or very little rarely. I only have it in tea, because nothing else works!

I found this. But admit that after scouring through a couple of articles I found some of the info conflicting.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/elaineschattner/2016/10/21/the-unfortunate-reality-of-a-rising-rate-of-breast-cancer/#24044aa9ea10
  • #13,556
  • May 11, 2018 9:18am May 11, 2018 9:18am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Maybe the demand is risen due to your newly imported citizens who love lamb and can't eat pork!
Every Sunday, my local village church fries bacon for bacon sarnies. The smell wafts a long way. Everyone fry bacon!!
  • #13,557
  • May 11, 2018 9:20am May 11, 2018 9:20am
Looks like anything associated with Obama and the left is related to pedophelia. The pedos are getting exposed everyday.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2018/05/white-house-official-guilty-voyeurism-got-many-rapid-promotions-pay-hikes/
  • #13,558
  • May 11, 2018 9:21am May 11, 2018 9:21am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Every Sunday, my local village church fries bacon for bacon sarnies. The smell wafts a long way. Everyone fry bacon!!

The great revenge is bacon! Ha! Love it!
  • #13,559
  • May 11, 2018 9:21am May 11, 2018 9:21am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Right wing! Yeah sure! When you can't defend your original statement, pull out the right wing card! You are pathetic at times! Majority of people understood what he said, and the only thing BS is your argument in suggesting that he should shut up!
Any you know this how?

Nope, don't trust the media, which clearly shows that that the majority of people took him at his word!

Spin, spin, and more spin!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,560
  • May 11, 2018 9:27am May 11, 2018 9:27am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} I found this. But admit that after scouring through a couple of articles I found some of the info conflicting. https://www.forbes.com/sites/elaineschattner/2016/10/21/the-unfortunate-reality-of-a-rising-rate-of-breast-cancer/#24044aa9ea10
You have to understand that oestrogen feeds breast cancer tumours. Fat produces lots of oestrogen. So there is a direct correlation between fat and cancer. Oestrogen also makes women over emotional. Cue more emotional eating and more fat.
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