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  • #13,241
  • Apr 27, 2018 3:35pm Apr 27, 2018 3:35pm
Quoting AlexC
{quote} It was Brown who sold half of Uk's gold reserves... at the lowest price... of course. All for the good of some precious banks. I'm feel a bit cynical for about quarter of a century. Maybe it's the chemtrails back in the mid 90's, I don't know. Hope things will get better soon. Hope dies last. https://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-07-10/gordon-brown-sold-britain%E2%80%99s-gold-artificially-low-prices-bail-out-large-ameri {image}
https://youtu.be/Qs7V-hnTV30
  • #13,242
  • Apr 27, 2018 3:37pm Apr 27, 2018 3:37pm
https://youtu.be/2e-0nikgtGg
https://youtu.be/ixqOgtNERAQ
  • #13,243
  • Apr 27, 2018 5:04pm Apr 27, 2018 5:04pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdwkdYPz-o
  • #13,244
  • Apr 28, 2018 2:46am Apr 28, 2018 2:46am
Quoting jen101
https://youtu.be/_zCDvOsdL9Q
He almost looks like a pasty lizard!
  • #13,245
  • Edited 3:27am Apr 28, 2018 2:52am | Edited 3:27am
Quoting jmn5611
To you Trumptards across the water, this clown is in serious trouble. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he just cannot keep it together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo-hqYe87vs
Do you really think that starting off conversations by insulting people is a good way to elicit a positive interaction with others who may disagree with your political viewpoints?

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And your sources of info is very suspect, not a word of it is substantiated but all speculative in nature. The guy is being mentioned as a candidate for the NPP, not that distinction means a lot these days, but if it happens he is virtually untouchable, and all indications that peace and unification between the Korea's is on track to becoming a reality. I am just saying, regardless whether you like him or not, that feat alone where previous administrations have failed, is by large pretty impressive.

Let me not interrupt your delusional rant, as you were soldier!
  • #13,246
  • Edited 3:19am Apr 28, 2018 3:03am | Edited 3:19am
Saturday Morning Cinema

7 UP Series (now "56 UP")

This 1964 Gem of Michael Apted's film "7 UP" profiled 14 children for his Granada Television special. The group who he chose as he subjects were representative of England at large across the country's socio-economic system. Every seven years, Apted returned to his subjects (those that chose to participate, anyway) to see how life changed for each one—and how their dreams, fears, and philosophies evolved with time. The Up Series now includes eight films (56 Up was released in 2012), and Apted has stated his intentions to continue the project. It remains a fascinating study of how class plays a major role in British culture, but also how the human experience is one that is ultimately universal, despite the specifics that we encounter as individuals. This body of work is vastly unique to any other documentary film maker has undertaken, and of course a real eye opener in terms of British Society and the changes it has endured over time, especially viewing it in a present tense.

https://youtu.be/UcrTX6x_qpw

"Thin Blue Line"

Errol Morris's best known film is, by his definition, a work of non-fiction rather than a documentary. It follows Randall Dale Adams, who at the age of 26 was arrested, convicted, and sentenced to the death penalty for the 1976 murder of a police officer in Dallas, Texas—a crime Adams did not commit. Reenacting the events leading up to the murder and including interviews with Adams and other players in the case, Morris's film made a strong case for a miscarriage of justice—so much so that the case was reviewed a year after the film's release, and Adams's conviction was overturned. This is one of the most compelling looks at our criminal justice system as well as noting the power of this genre to influence a different recourse when the certain particulars of the case is explored and the truth is uncovered. This is the same director who recently produced Netflix's production "Wormwood".

https://youtu.be/oszTkSBUgu8

"The True Story of the Black Sheep Squadron"

This is a bonus and I wanted to include it here, old time style in terms of documentary's but is a cool look at the pacific theater in WWII and the pilots that were stationed there. The Black Sheep Squadron and the planes they flew such as the Corsair F4U were pretty much responsible for eliminating Japans Zero's from out of the sky with almost 11 to 1 kill ratio for some pilots who flew there.

https://youtu.be/-yyZY1aauxk
  • #13,247
  • Apr 28, 2018 3:14am Apr 28, 2018 3:14am
I may have posted this before, I can't remember, but it never gets old for me. I simply love this airplane!

How the Corsair got it's nickname "Whistling Death"

https://youtu.be/IBUKiKvl29Q
  • #13,248
  • Apr 28, 2018 3:26am Apr 28, 2018 3:26am
Numbers don't lie! US Economic engines are raring to be firing on all cylinders soon. Remember how many pundits were saying that reaching 3% was impossible? Well it's happening folks.

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The Bureau of Economic Analysis (https://bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm) (BEA), who track GDP -and- U.S. Labor Department (http://t.co/eXePjtmrRp) (DoL) Bureau of Labor and Statistics (https://www.bls.gov/news.release/eci.nr0.htm) (BLS), who track wage growth, have released the initial sets of analysis for Quarter 1 of this year (Jan-March). The first quarter growth in GDP comes in at 2.3%. [Most estimates initially expected 2.0% or slightly less.] Better than expect growth!

The 2.3% first quarter result puts 2018 on track to achieve President Trump’s targeted growth rate: over three percent combined growth for the full year.
Due to seasonal fluctuations the first quarter is historically the weakest for GDP growth. The second quarter will likely rebound well above 3.5% as the historic Q1 -vs- Q2 trend shows above.
  • #13,249
  • Apr 28, 2018 3:29am Apr 28, 2018 3:29am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Do you really think that starting off conversations by insulting people is a good way to elicit a positive interaction with others who may disagree with your political viewpoints? {image} And your sources of info is very suspect, not a word of it is substantiated but all speculative in nature. The guy is being mentioned as a candidate for the NPP, not that that distinction means a lot these days, but if it happens he virtually will be untouchable, and all indications that peace and unification between the Korea's on track to becoming a reality....
I don't mind being called Trumptard or Brexittard; after all I have called them libtards rather a lot too! It's only fair.
  • #13,250
  • Edited 3:50am Apr 28, 2018 3:35am | Edited 3:50am
Quoting AlexC
{quote} It was Brown who sold half of Uk's gold reserves... at the lowest price... of course. All for the good of some precious banks. https://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-07-10/gordon-brown-sold-britain%E2%80%99s-gold-artificially-low-prices-bail-out-large-ameri {image}

That really speaks volumes to the larger picture in question, and why humanity is in this continue cycle of the rich getting richer and the poor staying poor idiom. The Oligarchy are the ruling class and have been since Cesar of Rome ruled, where transparency and accountability run parallel to having no meaning what so ever, just nice concepts to debate and waste more time from our quality of living among the commoners. Someday, I hope there will be people like Clinton and Brown who will face their S**t and held accountable for the crimes that they have committed, but not until a apathetic public wakes up from their slumber to demand it so! Until then, status quo is the modus operandi of the day.
  • #13,251
  • Apr 28, 2018 3:40am Apr 28, 2018 3:40am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I don't mind being called Trumptard or Brexittard; after all I have called them libtards rather a lot too! It's only fair.

I don't resort to that anymore, it is not only a negative cause, but does nothing to raise the quality of positive interaction between people. It breeds contempt, divisiveness and most importantly is counter productive that immediately puts people on the defensive. You may have a different view on this, which is fine, it certainly is not something I am going to advocate for. I like my "Karma" bank and the world is already negative as it is, no need to contribute more of it by calling people names. My .02 worth!
  • #13,252
  • Apr 28, 2018 3:48am Apr 28, 2018 3:48am
Is it possible that we are witnessing a major historical event in our life time? Is this bigger than the Berlin Wall moment?


https://youtu.be/xL6IRZQYuC4
  • #13,253
  • Apr 28, 2018 4:03am Apr 28, 2018 4:03am
Quoting AlexC
I'm feel a bit cynical for about quarter of a century. Maybe it's the chemtrails back in the mid 90's, I don't know. Hope things will get better soon. Hope dies last. https://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-07-10/gordon-brown-sold-britain%E2%80%99s-gold-artificially-low-prices-bail-out-large-ameri {image}
My sort of escapism. Follow me!
https://youtu.be/zcRqFi6iqBw
  • #13,254
  • Apr 28, 2018 4:06am Apr 28, 2018 4:06am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} I don't resort to that anymore, it is not only a negative cause, but does nothing to raise the quality of positive interaction between people. It breeds contempt, divisiveness and most importantly is counter productive that immediately puts people on the defensive. You may have a different view on this, which is fine, it certainly is not something I am going to advocate for. I like my "Karma" bank and the world is already negative as it is, no need to contribute more of it by calling people names. My .02 worth!
We're British. We insult our friends. All good fun.
  • #13,255
  • Apr 28, 2018 4:10am Apr 28, 2018 4:10am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} That really speaks volumes to the larger picture in question, and why humanity is in this continue cycle of the rich getting richer and the poor staying poor idiom. The Oligarchy are the ruling class and have been since Cesar of Rome ruled, where transparency and accountability run parallel to having no meaning what so ever, just nice concepts to debate and waste more time from our quality of living among the commoners. Someday, I hope there will be people like Clinton and Brown who will face their S**t and held accountable for the crimes...
Blair is the war criminal. Brown was just a clueless idiot.
  • #13,256
  • Apr 28, 2018 7:46am Apr 28, 2018 7:46am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Do you really think that starting off conversations by insulting people is a good way to elicit a positive interaction with others who may disagree with your political viewpoints? {image} And your sources of info is very suspect, not a word of it is substantiated but all speculative in nature. The guy is being mentioned as a candidate for the NPP, not that distinction means a lot these days, but if it happens he is virtually untouchable, and all indications that peace and unification between the Korea's is on track to becoming a reality....

And you are definitely the king of gifs!

Contractions taken on tape is not exactly speculation there private.

Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} I don't resort to that anymore, it is not only a negative cause, but does nothing to raise the quality of positive interaction between people. It breeds contempt, divisiveness and most importantly is counter productive that immediately puts people on the defensive. You may have a different view on this, which is fine, it certainly is not something I am going to advocate for. I like my "Karma" bank and the world is already negative as it is, no need to contribute more of it by calling people names. My .02 worth!
And just who are YOU to be telling us how to interact anyways!

Quoting DrManhatten
Is it possible that we are witnessing a major historical event in our life time? Is this bigger than the Berlin Wall moment? https://youtu.be/xL6IRZQYuC4
Lil Kim has done this before, lets see if he is serious. If this does happen under Trump, he deserves the Nobel.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,257
  • Apr 28, 2018 2:48pm Apr 28, 2018 2:48pm
Quoting DrManhatten
Is it possible that we are witnessing a major historical event in our life time? Is this bigger than the Berlin Wall moment? https://youtu.be/xL6IRZQYuC4
Wow!

I would like to believe that this is true. It is time that old hostilities were/are laid to rest. However, it could be just as valueless as the agreement signed between Hitler and Attlee a few years back.

So we shall have to wait and see. It occurred to me that this may be a strategic move to open food and fuel supplies for the NK population ... before they get really pissed at starvation and decide for themselves.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #13,258
  • Apr 28, 2018 4:15pm Apr 28, 2018 4:15pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Wow! I would like to believe that this is true. It is time that old hostilities were/are laid to rest. However, it could be just as valueless as the agreement signed between Hitler and Attlee a few years back. So we shall have to wait and see. It occurred to me that this may be a strategic move to open food and fuel supplies for the NK population ... before they get really pissed at starvation and decide for themselves.
Do you trust fatboy or do you think he's up to something? Is he Doctor Evil?
  • #13,259
  • Edited 6:14am Apr 29, 2018 5:19am | Edited 6:14am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} And you are definitely the king of gifs! Contractions taken on tape is not exactly speculation there private. {quote} And just who are YOU to be telling us how to interact anyways! {quote} Lil Kim has done this before, lets see if he is serious. If this does happen under Trump, he deserves the Nobel.


"And you are definitely the king of gifs!"

Right! Go straight to criticizing my use of them rather than to answer a straight forward question. Passive aggressive much?
Looks like you right back to assuming your old traits again, pivot, deflect, attack.

"Contractions taken on tape is not exactly speculation there private."

Yeah sure Jmn! Then you add "he is going down," and "he is in real trouble," blah, blah, blah without offering anything to substantiate that claim along with all the "New World Order" crap you love to espouse here on this site so frequently, and it becomes just more speculative BS with added nonsensical hyperbole! You do much to discredit your own statements.

And just who are YOU to be telling us how to interact anyways!

Who am I? I am someone who decided to be a positive force in the world by making it a better place! Who are you? Someone who is incapable to self reflect and want to become a better human being? I guess that makes for one miserable soul like yourself, right? Where in my statement am I am telling people how to interact? Recheck your reading comprehension skills, because by not doing so you again make yourself to look like a very small foolish man who can't simply grasp literal meanings when expressed in a text. I am not sure if you do this on purpose by choosing to be obtuse, or you want to be antagonistic or maybe both but unfortunately you already have a pattern of this behavior established here on this site, so don't be surprised by my response or anybody else's for that matter!


Just so anybody has forgotten, some here never forget who you really are Jmn. As for me I am always willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, and let bygones be bygones, but when you start with your old nonsense and BS then you get the same treatment back! You can just go back to eating snakes if that is what you prefer! Or being remembered for: "a hypocrite, and Jen is right, a sanctimonious twat too" (Not my words, but if the shoe fits then it must be true!)




"Does anyone think jmn5611 used the term 'white knight' as anything else other than derrogatory? Leave your reply below.

I wasn't born yesterday, as expected you are attempting to redefine the 'ad hom'.

Here are several definitions of the internet use of the term 'White Knight':

 

  1. "the noun white knighting is coming to greater prominence. The term is commonly used to refer to the practice of coming to someone’s aid, particularly of men coming to the aid of women used. Given this meaning, it is perhaps no surprise that it is often used in a derogatory context, as in ‘I’ve always maintained that ‘white knighting’ is in itself a sexist gesture’"
  2. "White Knight” (also known as “Internet White Knight”) is a pejorative term used to describe men who defend women on the Internet with the assumption that they are looking for a romantic reward in return"
  3. "The term is used in a number of contexts, but its primary aim is to be derogatory towards the male in the conversation with a secondary goal of attacking the female"
  4. "a derogatory Internet term for an individual who goes out of his or her way to defend another. The accusation implies the motivation is disingenuous or based upon some form of reward meaning"


See a pattern there? Pretty pathetic backtracking, and as a guy who has been on this forum alone for over 5 years it would be impossible for you not to know the real meaning unless you are very stupid.

You are a hypocrite, and Jen is right, a sanctimonious twat too.

If you were anywhere near as smart as you think you are you would be very smart indeed?

  • #13,260
  • Apr 29, 2018 6:01am Apr 29, 2018 6:01am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Wow! I would like to believe that this is true. It is time that old hostilities were/are laid to rest. However, it could be just as valueless as the agreement signed between Hitler and Attlee a few years back. So we shall have to wait and see. It occurred to me that this may be a strategic move to open food and fuel supplies for the NK population ... before they get really pissed at starvation and decide for themselves.
I too would like to believe it is true as well. I think skepticism is warranted as to how this will end, but there seems to be cause to be optimistic as well.

I have been looking into a lot of things for the past year as it relates to economics, and the relation between US and China regarding trade, and NAFTA specifically.
When I look at the aggregate of recent developments then this particular picture makes sense in a lot of ways.

1st) We watched Trump coming out with some very strong language as in "Fire and Fury like you have never seen before" putting "Rocket man on notice.
2nd) NAFTA trade negotiations and investigations in China is caught cheating, and as a result tariffs are raised, threatening China's bottom line.
3rd) Kim Jung, then travels to Beijing in a secret meeting.
4th) Comes back and announces he wants to sit and talk with Trump to negotiate a peace settlement (while South Korea is continuously negotiating with NK)
5th) Then announces a few weeks ago that he (Kim) will no longer be testing missiles, or conducting Nuclear underground tests and also destroys and shuts down one known test facility that carried out past tests.
6th) Mike Pompeio's recent and secret meeting on Easter Weekend with Kim. This is unprecedented to say in the least.
7th) This latest showing(video) in wanting to bring about peace and uniting the Koreas and ending all hostilities.

My view on this, if true goes through a narrative that seems to be most plausible. What happened first was the meeting in China, where Kim is convinced that he will cement his legacy forever by making this bold move and becoming a hero to his people for having freed them. In return, he gets monetary support from China, an open invitation to resuscitate his image from being a villain to one who is redeemable, and being open to participate in the world market via trade. Where there is money to be made is investments, improving and modernizing infrastructure, etc., thus everyones life improves. So Kim takes the deal China is offering.

What people don't realize is the US has a lot of leverage over China when it comes to the central banks and China's dependency on foreign resources to feed their people. The US simply stated that they want China to deal with the issue by resolving the NK Nukes threat or face a possible disruption (meaning more punitive tariffs on all Chinese businesses operating in the US) to not only their trade routes into the US markets but a military conflict that will be brought right onto their door step. China simply couldn't have that, as well as China wanton love of money was too much to bare in facing the alternative scenarios and so they felt compelled to acquiesce to Trump's demands.

In this latest development, if events unfold as being true then it would be truly remarkable! But while a lot of credit will go to Trump for making it possible, the other unsung hero is Dennis Rodman. Yeah, I know what you are going to say, but, Rodman is a friend of Kim, who befriended him over a common interest in the sport of basketball. Kim got an idea what life would be like if he opened up his nation to becoming democratic and all the perks that goes along with it, suddenly life somehow became different, brighter, with streets lined with gold due to Rodman's influence and sharing his own excesses of life's own indulgements, suddenly the possibilities seem endlessly positive to Kim. Kim must have also imagined living life without having to fear being taken out by state actors bent on regime change. The other heroes are of course South Korea itself, who by all measures would stand to lose the most had a war broke out. Their determination to staying engaged in the negotiations process and keeping in communications with an open line was key to all of this.

Anyway, just the way I see it now. I hope it happens, but the month of May will no doubt probably be the most important month to watch for whether this happens or not. We will see, like I said before there is reason to be optimistic but being cautiously optimistic is a more guarded measure from broken promises of the past that certainly leaves most skeptical of what is really happening and the motives involved.
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