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  • #5,141
  • Apr 19, 2018 6:03am Apr 19, 2018 6:03am
Quoting DaQueen
{quote}{quote} What Fxjunction has implemented doesn't protect the avg JoJowe from being scammed. The term scams typically is used after a perso n takes a massive loss and the trollsters use that term to lable them as the black plague so no one elsw would follow. The most interest ing is that you having a picture of me and proof of address wont stop margin callcallas. Forexsignal is a scam box as they charge a monthoy fee for a service which isnt worth it. At best the mods are funny but they csnt make you profit anymore then ff members can. Attach...

Think you are missing the point.

Despite the existence of the police, there will always exist criminals, does that mean we should do away with the police? No!

Having some sort of validation for vendors will make it difficult for them to simply shut up shop and come back pretending to be someone else.

The user EonFx (despite being banned from forex factory in Nov-2017 for scamming), has managed to come back 5-6 times under different user names (each one eventually caught and banned). But the point is, it should not be this easy for him, or for anyone, to operate without fear of repercussion. The last time he was caught, he openly admitted he had many duplicate user names already set-up - this should simply not be this easy.

Are you saying that just because something is not 100% full proof, we should not try at all?
  • #5,142
  • Apr 19, 2018 6:14am Apr 19, 2018 6:14am
In my previous post # 5.126 , I had said to Moodybot : " Learn from your sissy boy oHannah : he is in silence since April 13th... so he does not risk
suspension or revoke ... "
But Moodybot is too arrogant to accept a wise advice . So :
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  • #5,143
  • Apr 19, 2018 12:48pm Apr 19, 2018 12:48pm
Quoting Neptun
Curiosity, of course! made an account on a neighbor. Curiosity over the payment solution that is used ... there is a post on my thread where I said that in my past professional career I developed for many years a credit card payment processor, strong French relations ... seeing my neighbor country, a strange curiosity made me look for the cc payment processor that is used ... maybe it was the one that I developed! BUT WHAT I SEE??!?!?!?!!?!? I don't say it is a fraud, but it very weird for an website to have the control over the client Credit Card...
In current days you have a lot of safe and regulated platforms with API for manage credit cards. It dont have any sense give your details to any web directly
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #5,144
  • Edited 5:20pm Apr 19, 2018 5:09pm | Edited 5:20pm
Quoting redoktober
In my previous post # 5.126 , I had said to Moodybot : " Learn from your sissy boy oHannah : he is in silence since April 13th... so he does not risk suspension or revoke ... " But Moodybot is too arrogant to accept a wise advice . So : {image}
Suspended

The suspension didn't last long. Funny, you knew about it before I did.

And you have been unmasked. Fancy hot desking another login. Who would have thought.

I'm just wondering how many people get turned off from joining Forex Factory because of your constant antics and rudeness. You may have a job to do but there are ways of going about it.

I would imagine, the people who pay the bills, the advertisers, wouldn't be too happy to see you turning away foot traffic.

This is our last communication.
  • #5,145
  • Apr 20, 2018 12:30am Apr 20, 2018 12:30am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} This is our last communication.
"Our" ? We who ? This is a Freudian lapsus ...this idiot said "our " because Moodybot=oHannah .

Poor moron , you have unmasked yourself with your own words !

But it does not matter , today is a Day of Celebration for our Forum because " This is our last communication " ...

Moodybot/oHannah the whole FF Community wishes you a great future :
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  • #5,146
  • Apr 20, 2018 1:56am Apr 20, 2018 1:56am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} "Our" ? We who ? This is a Freudian lapsus ...this idiot said "our " because Moodybot=oHannah . Poor moron , you have unmasked yourself with your own words ! But it does not matter , today is a Day of Celebration for our Forum because " This is our last communication " ... Moodybot/oHannah the whole FF Community wishes you a great future : {image}
I dont think he is same person,nor do i even give a shit about that LOL
but one thing is clear what he did with all his representation and defence way around really diminishes that seller he defend.now people will start think twice before to pay for one software that is the same shit but you have to pay with every new update when seller change only the name.then you must pay fees to one webinar where in fact you can learn tricks regarding that software.not that is not a very smart way to squeeze money from fools ,but...
the way that software keep DD is nothing new cos most of craps around are doing same and wipe you out at one point,is just a matter of luck on which side market moves.noobs of course dont understand this and of course they will always pay for softwares cos thats the way things are.let them pay,let them burn one more time,let them try again and again and so on.
i said in the past and i will say again : TOOLS that really make money are NOT for public community are NOT FOR SALE and will never be.
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #5,147
  • Apr 20, 2018 2:11am Apr 20, 2018 2:11am
His behavior looks like members with broker rebates. Im sure he have some kind of deal with coder. Is not normal defend a stuff is not your like he do so you have a benefit of do it...
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #5,148
  • Apr 20, 2018 2:43am Apr 20, 2018 2:43am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} I dont think he is same person,nor do i even give a shit about that LOL but one thing is clear what he did with all his representation and defence way around really diminishes that seller he defend.now people will start think twice before to pay for one software that is the same shit but you have to pay with every new update when seller change only the name.then you must pay fees to one webinar where in fact you can learn tricks regarding that software.not that is not a very smart way to squeeze money from fools ,but... the way that software...
Exactly!
Let's say a coder develops a profitable EA. A trader like you and me...
Why the hell would he share or sell ( the same thing, because the income freom selling is peanuts compared to profits) it?! It would be absolutly insane thing to do IMHO!

I feel the same about prop trading. The one that allocates the $$ and invests with you wants details about the strat and investor PW of your account. It is the same as giving your strategy away for peanuts, because every prop firm will absolutly disect your trading history to the smallest detail.


I might be wrong of course, but IMHO all prop trading, selling EAs, selling courses is a part of trading busines that has nothing to do with profitable trading. I know Profitfarmer would not agree here, but that is my view.

So especialy for signal sellers and EA sellers in comercial section here in FF my opinion is they are all fraudsters and scammers in one way or another, but definitly failed traders in one way or another.
PVSRA
  • #5,149
  • Apr 20, 2018 2:47am Apr 20, 2018 2:47am
Quoting Husky77
i said in the past and i will say again : TOOLS that really make money are NOT for public community are NOT FOR SALE and will never be.
In fact, you said nothing with that, always valid as long as no other limits are set. Put a time frame, % performance, ..., and one might get it as a challenge, to make money as main scope and why not, invalidate the statement too.
  • #5,150
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:04am Apr 20, 2018 3:04am
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} Exactly! Let's say a coder develops a profitable EA. A trader like you and me... Why the hell would he share or sell ( the same thing, because the income freom selling is peanuts compared to profits) it?! It would be absolutly insane thing to do IMHO! I feel the same about prop trading. The one that allocates the $$ and invests with you wants details about the strat and investor PW of your account. It is the same as giving your strategy away for peanuts, because every prop firm will absolutly disect your trading history to the smallest detail....
i trade since some years now,as usual in the begining like any noob i started blowing up accounts with dreams in my shitty head.of course i got hit by the strong reality wall which tells you ''dude youre idiot ,stop now'' .so i started read ,practice and learn.in time watching all those charts daily and learning to control yourself against human nature when comes to any little sign of possible profit you can squeeze money from this ,with a good MM.
now i can make money in my manual trading.rich? not at all.decent? yes,because i live from this now since few years.
some time ago i was thinking same way you may think or any other guy, when you see your way is making good,hey i will start a signal.ok i will make a very cheap signal so everyone can benefit.mmmhhh in time this need dissapeared.why the heck should i do this? why to make public my way? why to let all scammers copy my way and sell it again?
why not carry my own way and let others do their way?why should i take responsability for others while i can take responsability only for my way and manage my own business?why to get under the 10000000 questions while i can just simple... make money for me.
so ... no share,no signal no nada.why? simple because is enough for me and is very comfortable.
of course all this time out of my manual trading i test tools ,and based on my own knowledge try to improve them with Juan see how to tune better.tools that are not public of course.now ask yourself why not public
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #5,151
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:07am Apr 20, 2018 3:07am
Quoting Neptun
{quote} In fact, you said nothing with that, always valid as long as no other limits are set. Put a time frame, % performance, ..., and one might get it as a challenge, to make money as main scope and why not, invalidate the statement too.
let me tell you again TOOLS WHO REALLY MAKE MONEY ARE NOT FOR SELL. now look for the losers % in forex. do you want me to tell you again?
ok tools that are really making money are NOT for sale.
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #5,152
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:07am Apr 20, 2018 3:07am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} i trade since some years now,as usual in the begining like any noob i started blowing up accounts with dreams in my shitty head.of course i got hit by the strong reality wall which tells you ''dude youre idiot ,stop now'' .so i started read ,practice and learn.in time watching all those charts daily and learning to control yourself against human nature when comes to any little sign of possible profit you can squeeze money from this ,with a good MM. now i can make money in my manual trading.rich? not at all.decent? yes,because i live from...
Agree 100%!
PVSRA
  • #5,153
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:12am Apr 20, 2018 3:12am
Quoting braintheboss
His behavior looks like members with broker rebates. Im sure he have some kind of deal with coder. Is not normal defend a stuff is not your like he do so you have a benefit of do it...
No deal with the coder, broker, rebates or otherwise. I have offered Twee my details. Up to him if he wants to follow up.

I agree, it isn't normal to defend 'stuff', but there is an opinion and then there is full on nasty, and I didn't like the way the onslaught was arranged.
Look in the recycle bin at The Pitbull thread started by Chips. Nothing to sell, just an idea for a method, and I can tell you, it was a war zone and pretty much straight off with identical tactics. And the reason why, it was by association because a trader named Brijon originally attempted to start a thread. He wasn't liked by the mods. Chips tried to restart. Again, a war zone, two great threads destroyed by Lilliese and crew before he got confused and became a Submarine. Ask yourselves why!! Two manual threads, nothing to sell, no indicators whatsoever got so vehemently attacked and binned. I took exception to that around 4 perhaps 5 years ago now, and the way o'Hannah was dealt with recently, I took exception to that to.

Now you know.

So that's cleared that up.

From Husky 277......

'i said in the past and i will say again : TOOLS that really make money are NOT for public community are NOT FOR SALE and will never be'

You are correct. Perhaps o'Hannah has programmed something that will make money. I am in the process of finding out. Is there something wrong in trying out an EA that I have paid for? I took a chance no one forced me to buy it.

Where in Finance does it say, guaranteed returns. It doesn't. No one knows what is around the corner. No one.

This is an honest opinion and appraisal. Rare on this forum at the moment.

Numbnuts will be along later with a picture......apparently painting by numbers.
  • #5,154
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:15am Apr 20, 2018 3:15am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} let me tell you again TOOLS WHO REALLY MAKE MONEY ARE NOT FOR SELL. now look for the losers % in forex. do you want me to tell you again? ok tools that are really making money are NOT for sale.
to confirm that I want you to tell it again: say it again! ... thanks, you did, no more need.
but in the end, you said nothing, again.

but if you say it more precisely, one might make it, and of course the free publicity already started.
  • #5,155
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:21am Apr 20, 2018 3:21am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} From Husky 277...... 'i said in the past and i will say again : TOOLS that really make money are NOT for public community are NOT FOR SALE and will never be' You are correct. Perhaps o'Hannah has programmed something that will make money. I am in the process of finding out. Is there something wrong in trying out an EA that I have paid for? I took a chance no one forced me to buy it. Where in Finance does it say, guaranteed returns. It doesn't. No one knows what is around the corner. No one. This is an honest opinion and appraisal. Rare on...
No mate.nothing wrong.you just need to be a bit more relaxed.like i told you in the past.you paid for that you use it good for you ,and it doesnt matter if i say i dont like it or whatever i say.enjoy it and be stress free.let behind all this flame in defending something when it comes about automated forex trading,cos market itself may prove youre worng at some point or not,why such an amount of stress and endless debates and fights with anyone who dont agree with you? this just harm your daily mood.in fact you as a customer have nothing to prove,the seller need to prove something if he want too.
and there will be always EA\s for sell in this biz ,always happy or mad customers,always losers ,always less winners.this thread cant do shit about it i am now convinced about that,so i take all this just fun conversation and try to not get out from my good daily mood.try copy me cos is free
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #5,156
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:23am Apr 20, 2018 3:23am
Quoting Neptun
{quote} to confirm that I want you to tell it again: say it again! ... thanks, you did, no more need. but in the end, you said nothing, again. but if you say it more precisely, one might make it, and of course the free publicity already started.
ok
tools that really make money are NOT for sale why? because are already making money.
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #5,157
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:24am Apr 20, 2018 3:24am
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} Exactly! Let's say a coder develops a profitable EA. A trader like you and me... Why the hell would he share or sell ( the same thing, because the income freom selling is peanuts compared to profits) it?! It would be absolutly insane thing to do IMHO! I feel the same about prop trading. The one that allocates the $$ and invests with you wants details about the strat and investor PW of your account. It is the same as giving your strategy away for peanuts, because every prop firm will absolutly disect your trading history to the smallest detail....
lol, profitfarmer agrees with everything.

yet he thinks, that indeed sometimes situation can exist when there is a genuine lack of capital, and for that reason one may resort to alternative ways to bridge that gap.
just as other tools, taking on a prop deal or selling an EA is allowed to reach a specific goal, faster. life is short, and later money cant buy back time.
but i also subscribe to the idea that honesty and some transparency is key feature.
no prop firm likely to take you for a demo trading history. most want to see you have a 4-5 digit account that you handle with "care".
no honest EA seller is selling a product without a live test. rightly, buyers expect to see it can trade live too.
both case things should be scalable to at least some not to near point...
in case of prop to at least a couple millions equity, in case a retail EA at least to down to 5-10k, what average account size tend to be.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #5,158
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:27am Apr 20, 2018 3:27am
My system averages around 3.5% per month with almost no risk. Even just this (relatively) small rate, and I will never sell, trade for others, or share crucial details. Just compound, and live from profits. Certainly took years to get there, but now it's so easy to do. Selling to customers is pointless if you truly have an ea that profits steadily with minimal risk. It just doesn't make any sense at all.

Of course, scammers always pull out some lame excuse why they need to sell such as not enough capital, but the real reason why is that their system does not perform as advertised, or has extreme risks. So instead of risking their money, they expect you to buy their dodgy ea, and risk your money. These people have no shame, no morals, and absolutely no compassion at all. Not only do they profit from the sale of their crap, but they also know very well that their ea puts their customers trading capital at risk. Do they care? Not at all. They don't even pretend to care. Should we care when they're pulled out in front of everyone and shown for what they truly are? Of course not. You shit the bed, you sleep in it!!!
  • #5,159
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:28am Apr 20, 2018 3:28am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} lol, profitfarmer agrees with everything. yet he thinks, that indeed sometimes situation can exist when there is a genuine lack of capital, and for that reason one may resort to alternative ways to bridge that gap. just as other tools, taking on a prop deal or selling an EA is allowed to reach a specific goal, faster. life is short, and later money cant buy back time. but i also subscribe to the idea that honesty and some transparency is key feature. no prop firm likely to take you for a demo trading history. most want to see you have a...
I know you know what I ment.
PVSRA
  • #5,160
  • Apr 20, 2018 3:32am Apr 20, 2018 3:32am
Quoting kenshin
Of course, scammers always pull out some lame excuse why they need to sell such as not enough capital, but the real reason why is that their system does not perform as advertised, or has extreme risks. So instead of risking their money, they expect you to buy their dodgy ea, and risk your money. These people have no shame, no morals, and absolutely no compassion at all. Not only do they profit from the sale of their crap, but they also know very well that their ea puts their customers trading capital at risk. Do they care? Not...
Very well put, kenshin!

I think Twee should seriously consider this quote as a real life disclaimer in front of every commercial thread here!!!

Of course, scammers always pull out some lame excuse why they need to sell such as not enough capital, but the real reason why is that their system does not perform as advertised, or has extreme risks. So instead of risking their money, they expect you to buy their dodgy ea, and risk your money. These people have no shame, no morals, and absolutely no compassion at all. Not only do they profit from the sale of their crap, but they also know very well that their ea puts their customers trading capital at risk. Do they care? Not at all. They don't even pretend to care. Should we care when they're pulled out in front of everyone and shown for what they truly are? Of course not. You shit the bed, you sleep in it!!!
PVSRA
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