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  • #161
  • Apr 17, 2018 9:49am Apr 17, 2018 9:49am
18-46 is essentially MA based entry. - but iMA - both are 13 and 13 with median 1 & 5.
So gap is too small.

BB also both are same.


18-47 - trailing stop.

But Martingale settings are not in it. iPointStepLoss is not setup.
And also there is no entry rule. Just open buy if 0 and open sell if 0
So, it opens the orders randomly.

So, both versions, am sure more of reference points for the Code to be included into other versions.
  • #162
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:07am Apr 17, 2018 10:07am
Quoting rockit
{quote} Currently doing forward test of 18-46 on E/U, default settings, since just before London open (today); going great, banked €154 so far today. So far the robot went to up to 0.86 lots with a 1.6 multiplier.
Hi Rockit

May I know if your are testing it on Demo or real? if real then how much deposit? 154 Euro is lot in few hours with default setting of 0.01.
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  • #163
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:08am Apr 17, 2018 10:08am
Quoting cdsaa
18-46 is essentially MA based entry. - but iMA - both are 13 and 13 with median 1 & 5. So gap is too small. BB also both are same. 18-47 - trailing stop. But Martingale settings are not in it. iPointStepLoss is not setup. And also there is no entry rule. Just open buy if 0 and open sell if 0 So, it opens the orders randomly. So, both versions, am sure more of reference points for the Code to be included into other versions.
So according to you, so far which version has better mode of entry?
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  • #164
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:19am Apr 17, 2018 10:19am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} Hi Rockit May I know if your are testing it on Demo or real? if real then how much deposit? 154 Euro is lot in few hours with default setting of 0.01.
Done testing for today (demo); final result (maximum lot size has been 2.21 lot):

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  • #165
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:21am Apr 17, 2018 10:21am
Quoting rockit
{quote} Done testing for today (demo); final result (maximum lot size has been 2.21 lot): {image}
Wow 2.21 is scary
  • #166
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:32am Apr 17, 2018 10:32am
Quoting carddard
{quote} Wow 2.21 is scary
True, true..

All you need is big enough account HAHAHA:
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  • #167
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:32am Apr 17, 2018 10:32am
Can you offer a system for calculating lots for a network of 10 or more orders ?
I do lessons on working with networks of orders in the Russian language, are you interested to see them ? Maybe there is someone who can translate them into English
My topics: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1399775-vr-trade-panel-profe
  • #168
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:33am Apr 17, 2018 10:33am
Quoting Voldemar227
Can you offer a system for calculating lots for a network of 10 or more orders ? I do lessons on working with networks of orders in the Russian language, are you interested to see them ? Maybe there is someone who can translate them into English
Voldermar, your translator is messing up the meaning of the words.
Did you mean you want to calculate lot size for a group of orders?

I may already have something - let me know what you have in mind.
  • #169
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:36am Apr 17, 2018 10:36am
Quoting Voldemar227
Can you offer a system for calculating lots for a network of 10 or more orders ? I do lessons on working with networks of orders in the Russian language, are you interested to see them ? Maybe there is someone who can translate them into English
I would like to see the network of orders.

Where are you showing. is it youtube live. We can look at it and ask questions on what we can see. English translation, may be we can find captions. Try and enable CC in youtube. there is auto translation, not too good but some what manageable.
  • #170
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:40am Apr 17, 2018 10:40am
Well let's see the translation of the text will help subtitle
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My topics: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1399775-vr-trade-panel-profe
  • #171
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:42am Apr 17, 2018 10:42am
Quoting cdsaa
18-46 is essentially MA based entry. - but iMA - both are 13 and 13 with median 1 & 5. So gap is too small. BB also both are same. 18-47 - trailing stop. But Martingale settings are not in it. iPointStepLoss is not setup. And also there is no entry rule. Just open buy if 0 and open sell if 0 So, it opens the orders randomly. So, both versions, am sure more of reference points for the Code to be included into other versions.
According to Voldemar227 , There is error in your 18.431 & 18.441 (he mentioned on page 7).
According to you, 18.46 & 18.47 has entry and martingale problems.

Previous versions dont have Lot Multiplier option for martingale trades. So it means there is no version released yet to test on real cent account?
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  • #172
  • Apr 17, 2018 10:53am Apr 17, 2018 10:53am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} According to Voldemar227 , There is error in your 18.431 & 18.441 (he mentioned on page 7). According to you, 18.46 & 18.47 has entry and martingale problems. Previous versions dont have Lot Multiplier option for martingale trades. So it means there is no version released yet to test on real cent account?
18-44 had that error which i continued.

18-431 doesnt have any error.

But error on 18-441 fixed file. And also entry - made to check last 2 candles close, instead of 1 candle close. gives momentum a bit weight.
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File Type: mq4 VR Smart Grid Lite for 18-431.mq4   19 KB | 446 downloads
  • #173
  • Apr 17, 2018 11:02am Apr 17, 2018 11:02am
Quoting Voldemar227
Well let's see the translation of the text will help subtitle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhXTvI0x1Vk
Yes translation works good. Manageable.

To enable english Translation steps ( for those who do not know about it).

1. Click on CC - it should be RED underlined.
2. Click Settings
3. Auto Translate - Where you see Russian - Click on it and select English.
4. It would show Russian- English.

Now play the video. you should see translation and subtitles.
  • #174
  • Apr 17, 2018 11:07am Apr 17, 2018 11:07am
18-47 only took one trade and never take any new trade, I think someone had the same issue,
18-45 make 118 but had floating loss of 221
  • #175
  • Apr 17, 2018 11:32am Apr 17, 2018 11:32am
Quoting Voldemar227
Well let's see the translation of the text will help subtitle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhXTvI0x1Vk
Nice one Voldemar,

I have noticed the formula in your code.

Very interesting.

(Op1*L1 +Op2*L2)/(L1+L2) very good way. it is the shortest calculation to get the right price for break even on multiple orders.

It would become easier to lock profits by this calculation. I understand now 18-47 better. trail function there is very useful.
  • #176
  • Apr 17, 2018 11:36am Apr 17, 2018 11:36am
Quoting cdsaa
{quote} Nice one Voldemar, I have noticed the formula in your code. Very interesting. (Op1*L1 +Op2*L2)/(L1+L2) very good way. it is the shortest calculation to get the right price for break even on multiple orders. It would become easier to lock profits by this calculation. I understand now 18-47 better. trail function there is very useful.
Thanks for brief description for us (common people)

But as per back tests, posted earlier for same 18.47, it cannot survive movement of 350+ pips because there is not hedge defense for martingale trades.
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  • #177
  • Apr 17, 2018 11:47am Apr 17, 2018 11:47am
I see everyone wants hedge protection, I know what it is.
Offer a good way to work with hedging and I'll program it.

Please just think through everything carefully!

I've been programming since 2009, I love order networks and in 9 years I haven't found a good way to hedge. (((

I found good ways to calculate the lot, good ways to enter the market.
But with hedging, I didn't solve the problem. There is a way to get away from hedging and from networks completely, but I will not be able to explain it yet, I do not know the language.
My topics: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1399775-vr-trade-panel-profe
  • #178
  • Apr 17, 2018 11:49am Apr 17, 2018 11:49am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} Thanks for brief description for us (common people) But as per back tests, posted earlier for same 18.47, it cannot survive movement of 350+ pips because there is not hedge defense for martingale trades.
I only commented on 18 47 trail stop code. using average pricing to set and lock trailing stop to lock profit even in multiple orders.

It wont survive, it needs to have proper entry code to make it decent and survive the spikes. So i wouldnt test it too much.
  • #179
  • Apr 17, 2018 11:59am Apr 17, 2018 11:59am
Quoting Voldemar227
I see everyone wants hedge protection, I know what it is. Offer a good way to work with hedging and I'll program it. Please just think through everything carefully! I've been programming since 2009, I love order networks and in 9 years I haven't found a good way to hedge. ((( I found good ways to calculate the lot, good ways to enter the market. But with hedging, I didn't solve the problem. There is a way to get away from hedging and from networks completely, but I will not be able to explain it yet, I do not know the language.
Why not try this:
"Maybe there could be a setting which would allow to increase the non martingale lot size after x martingale trades have been opened. For example if we set it to after 5 martingale trades increase next trade to opposite side with 50%, the fifth MG trade would have been 0.13 and the next buy 0.06, the next sell 0.21 and next buy 0.1. This probably would have reduced the dd a lot. "
If you make the number of trades and hedging % adjustable then at least we could test this solution.
  • #180
  • Apr 17, 2018 1:02pm Apr 17, 2018 1:02pm
Quoting wkendwr
18-47 only took one trade and never take any new trade, I think someone had the same issue, 18-45 make 118 but had floating loss of 221
Yes...do agree same issue here, VR 18-47 does not work properly in forward testing, it opens one buy and one sell positions and then stops opening further trades...at least for me.
Perhaps others have more luck...then I would like to see a corresponding forward/live test report.

Thx, jdva
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