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  • #5,081
  • Apr 17, 2018 8:03am Apr 17, 2018 8:03am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} I’m quite lucid thankyou, my mind is fully intact. I will sleep easy tonight. With your earnings from the game, paying for the solicitors won’t be a hardship, indeed if it is a problem, I’ll help you out. The FF community will see the end of you and that can only be a good thing. Do not bother to continue with your BS in the Noddy thread, confront me here, unless of course, you are wavering with the accusation.
Settle down, ffs. We're not interested in your house, lol. It's just an opinion, that you and oHannah could possibly be the same person. If you take a step back and look at how defensive of him you are, then perhaps you will see why the thought occurs.

You can't post in the 'Noddy' thread. I can't post in the oHannah thread. Notice how I don't really give a shit though, even though I paid for it.

Like Husky has mentioned, you really do need to take a break from the forum. It can't be good for you man.
  • #5,082
  • Apr 17, 2018 8:22am Apr 17, 2018 8:22am
He got a punch right where it hurts most...

I personaly don't think they are the same person, but definitly commercialy connected! Moody is definitly too emotional about the stuff and this just cannot be a coincidence. If he was just a buyer of this presumably profitable EA he would just let the profits pour in , shut up and enjoy his live. More then obviously this is not the case!
PVSRA
  • #5,083
  • Apr 17, 2018 8:33am Apr 17, 2018 8:33am
Quoting Fisher755
He got a punch right where it hurts most...
Where? On the balls ?
But the australian Moodybot has no the balls , he is the oHannah's sissy boy ...
  • #5,084
  • Apr 17, 2018 8:40am Apr 17, 2018 8:40am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Where? On the balls ? But the australian Moodybot has no the balls , he is the oHannah's sissy boy ...
See this is the difference between us and him. We are relaxed and we have fun while at the same time satisfaction of revealing the scamm or in best case scenario bad bussines practices. No hard emotions attatched. Great work guys and Kenshin really did a right thing with the warning to others so they don't loose their time and money over something not worthy.
PVSRA
  • #5,085
  • Apr 17, 2018 8:41am Apr 17, 2018 8:41am
Now this arrogant idiot will have time to learn a little of education and respect for the fellow members :
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  • #5,086
  • Apr 17, 2018 8:42am Apr 17, 2018 8:42am
Quoting Fisher755
He got a punch right where it hurts most... I personaly don't think they are the same person, but definitly commercialy connected! Moody is definitly too emotional about the stuff and this just cannot be a coincidence. If he was just a buyer of this presumably profitable EA he would just let the profits pour in , shut up and enjoy his live. More then obviously this is not the case!
Given what we know, there is no reason at all why moodybot would defend so adamantly.

If he were simply a paid customer and nothing else, then there could only be two outcomes:
- Profit - You wouldn't hear anything from him and he'd be killing it live just like you say.
- Loss or Flat - He'd be bitching about performance along with the rest of the twits like myself.

I'm not really sure what to make of it, but there's definitely something else going on between them that has not been disclosed here.

EDIT - Not implying anyone else is a twit either, just me, lol
  • #5,087
  • Apr 17, 2018 8:59am Apr 17, 2018 8:59am
[quote=moodybot;10972290]
Quoting simond2002
{quote} Moodybot, IPersonally, I would not want my details advertised, but then i am not commercial and to be quite frank I have seen little evidence of live trading anywhere within FF, and those that do, usually run a micro account. To all members that do run live, and of a sizable account, please accept my apology.uals like that can bring out the worst in all of us, and I am either to old or to long in the tooth to be intimidated by them. Thank you once again for your civil reply. M.

Hi MB,

Placing someone behind a paywall or asking vendors to provide personal details doesn't mean those details or live trading need be revealed.

I believe MQL5 operate a policy whereby anyone who wants to become a vendor (whether it's a signal service or offering coding service) has to verify to site operators who they are. Whether this involves some form of formal identification (passport etc) I do not know. However once the person is verified, they are then allowed to post commercially.

FXJunction: The below rules apply:

Account has to be at least a month old and has to be Live (no demo). Once this criteria is met, people then have to apply to for the Signal Provider validation. The person has to:
+ Upload a Copy of a Valid Government Issued identification
+ Upload a Copy of a Utility Bill for proof of residence (not older than 3 months ago)
+ Upload a Civil Photo
+ Once the application is submitted, the FX Junction team will review it and you will be notified of the decision.

The above information is strictly for FXJunction and is in no way revealed to anyone.


ForexSignals: You have to have a live 6 month, decent size account I believe?


ForexFactory has, I believe, started to make inroads, ie. people can no longer post Cent accounts on TE (although some still get through - like 'Fort Financial Services').


Above are some of the things which can be implemented. Will this reduce traffic - from scammers and charlatans, yes! But is that a bad thing? Not in my opinion.

It would also ensure would be vendors have something they have seriously taken time to develop and test rather than some, "get rich quick", scheme.

Unfortunately on FF, many known scammers get caught and then simply come back offering a new service under a different ID. People also bypass the rules by posting their email or skype address and ask people to contact them directly. Why is FF not stopping this - they do not benefit from this at all.

Now that other sites (mentioned above) are taking an effort in to stopping scammers, can ForexFactory really afford not to keep up with the competition?

With all the legislation in the West now coming in to affect to protect retail clients, I think it's only a matter of time before all sites like this will be required to comply with offering protection to their users. And a failure to do so, will result in significant fines and prosecution as well as the ability to be sued.

Above can't happen fast enough in my opinion.

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  • #5,088
  • Apr 17, 2018 9:01am Apr 17, 2018 9:01am
damn! things got worse. now i guess all this matter added a bad stamp on ohanah multi priced multi tools.
ohannah better advise your clients to not jump in for you at all cos your biz now have a not very nice face due to the way how one of your clients reacted here.
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #5,089
  • Apr 17, 2018 9:17am Apr 17, 2018 9:17am
Quoting Husky77
damn! things got worse. now i guess all this matter added a bad stamp on ohanah multi priced multi tools. ohannah better advise your clients to not jump in for you at all cos your biz now have a not very nice face due to the way how one of your clients reacted here.
Yes , you're right Husky , the oHannah's spokesman suspended from the Forum , what a shame .

oHannah , next time, you should better choose your accomplices ...please , don't choose anymore a psychopath like Mooodybot...
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  • #5,090
  • Apr 17, 2018 9:22am Apr 17, 2018 9:22am
I can confirm that MQL5 require a valid, photo government ID (eg passport, drivers license etc) if you want to offer anything commercial. Be that products, coding services, whatever.

You also can't hide behind a username. Your nick is changed to EXACTLY as it appears on your ID.

IMHO, it's a move that FF should also look at for commercial members. Sure, it's easy to provide fake ID, but a lot harder than the current system and a lot easier to track down scammers.

The way MQL5 handle that is any payments to you go through them first. And you can only withdraw to an account (eg PayPal) with the same name and email address on your user account. Unfortunately, I can't see FF going down that same path.
  • #5,091
  • Edited 9:59am Apr 17, 2018 9:38am | Edited 9:59am
Quoting BSFilter
I can confirm that MQL5 require a valid, photo government ID (eg passport, drivers license etc) if you want to offer anything commercial. Be that products, coding services, whatever. You also can't hide behind a username. Your nick is changed to EXACTLY as it appears on your ID. IMHO, it's a move that FF should also look at for commercial members. Sure, it's easy to provide fake ID, but a lot harder than the current system and a lot easier to track down scammers. The way MQL5 handle that is any payments to you go through them first. And you can...

Thank you BSF - very informative.

Looks like more and more sites protecting their clients (by at least making it harder for potential scammers).

Those sites that do not offer such validation, will fail. People will simply stop coming as they will be over-run with scammers who can't go anywhere else.

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  • #5,092
  • Apr 17, 2018 9:45am Apr 17, 2018 9:45am
Quoting BSFilter
I can confirm that MQL5 require a valid, photo government ID (eg passport, drivers license etc) if you want to offer anything commercial. Be that products, coding services, whatever. You also can't hide behind a username. Your nick is changed to EXACTLY as it appears on your ID. IMHO, it's a move that FF should also look at for commercial members. Sure, it's easy to provide fake ID, but a lot harder than the current system and a lot easier to track down scammers. The way MQL5 handle that is any payments to you go through them first. And you can...
also in the comment section of product and review comments seller cant hide or ban any member who might give bad reviews or have bad comments regarding the product just bought.you will not see that happen here. but of course we must be honest and see what kind of platform is mql5 and what is ff ,we are in one simple forum platform here.
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #5,093
  • Apr 17, 2018 9:49am Apr 17, 2018 9:49am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} also in the comment section of product and review comments seller cant hide or ban any member who might give bad reviews or have bad comments regarding the product just bought.you will not see that happen here. but of course we must be honest and see what kind of platform is mql5 and what is ff ,we are in one simple forum platform here.
100% correct and agree Husky
  • #5,094
  • Edited 11:02am Apr 17, 2018 10:24am | Edited 11:02am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} also in the comment section of product and review comments seller cant hide or ban any member who might give bad reviews or have bad comments regarding the product just bought.you will not see that happen here. but of course we must be honest and see what kind of platform is mql5 and what is ff ,we are in one simple forum platform here.

'Nick McDonald' (owner) of ForexSignals takes an active interest in almost all that is posted on his site and regularly mediates when things get out of hand.

Having his own funds being traded, he knows all the ins/outs used by scammers and poor traders.

Not saying above is perfect but at it's something.

With revenues of $5-$10 million, would be interesting to hear from Twee as to what FF has in store going forward. Or will it be kept the same as long as the revenues keep coming in!

According to below site, FF has an estimated 48 employees - do any of them actually monitor the site?

Perhaps they need a specialist I.T. person to add security features such as users location being determined by their IP address rather than the user selecting (A favourite of scammers)

https://www.owler.com/company/forexfactory


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  • #5,095
  • Apr 17, 2018 1:32pm Apr 17, 2018 1:32pm
Quoting BSFilter
I can confirm that MQL5 require a valid, photo government ID (eg passport, drivers license etc) if you want to offer anything commercial. Be that products, coding services, whatever. You also can't hide behind a username. Your nick is changed to EXACTLY as it appears on your ID. IMHO, it's a move that FF should also look at for commercial members. Sure, it's easy to provide fake ID, but a lot harder than the current system and a lot easier to track down scammers. The way MQL5 handle that is any payments to you go through them first. And you can...
Having their services integrated in mt4/5, is hard/useless to compete with mql5. Most of the competition is on the trade copier but usually one that offers this services has accounts on all those social trading platforms.
Mql5 is protecting commercials too, ... of course, there is a %fee but since most of the prices are invented it can easily go on the client side.
  • #5,096
  • Apr 17, 2018 9:20pm Apr 17, 2018 9:20pm
Thank you Twee.

As you quite rightly point out, after eight years on here, and having seen it all before, I should just block and ignore the chief protagonist.

So I have.
  • #5,097
  • Apr 18, 2018 1:20am Apr 18, 2018 1:20am
Quoting moodybot
I should just block and ignore the chief protagonist. So I have.
Ok ostrich , put your head in the sand and ignore me : as much I'm sure my posts you will look at them anyway !
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  • #5,098
  • Apr 18, 2018 4:53am Apr 18, 2018 4:53am
Quoting Tesmy
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Hi MB, Placing someone behind a paywall or asking vendors to provide personal details doesn't mean those details or live trading need be revealed. I believe MQL5 operate a policy whereby anyone who wants to become a vendor (whether it's a signal service or offering coding service) has to verify to site operators who they are. Whether this involves some form of formal identification (passport etc) I do not know. However once the person is verified, they are then allowed to post commercially. FXJunction: The below
...
What Fxjunction has implemented doesn't protect the avg JoJowe from being scammed. The term scams typically is used after a perso n takes a massive loss and the trollsters use that term to lable them as the black plague so no one elsw would follow. The most interest ing is that you having a picture of me and proof of address wont stop margin callcallas.
Forexsignal is a scam box as they charge a monthoy fee for a service which isnt worth it. At best the mods are funny but they csnt make you profit anymore then ff members can. Attach a price to something and someone will buy it but that site is worse then this one.
Hail me for arth thou DaQueen
  • #5,099
  • Apr 18, 2018 6:30am Apr 18, 2018 6:30am
Well , because oHannah has disappeared since April 13 ( I wonder why ? LOL ) , we summarize his work here.
April 18, 2018
Update of the results of oHannah's Ouroboros EA :

Today's stats :
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This week's stats :
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This month's stats :
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All time stats :
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Vertical collapse :
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No comment , FF traders can judge with their eyes.
  • #5,100
  • Apr 18, 2018 1:09pm Apr 18, 2018 1:09pm
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=756210

be careful this guy is a crook and must be banned
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