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  • #13,001
  • Apr 15, 2018 5:51am Apr 15, 2018 5:51am
Quoting simond2002
{quote} Yea, along with the concept of free speech I guess. What is equally ironic is that each generation feels it has the moral high-ground. And the big wheels keep on turning...
...which reminds me. Tina Turner cut an interesting version, but I like the CCR original which reminds of happier times (except when I'm loaded)...

https://youtu.be/5hid10EgMXE
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #13,002
  • Apr 15, 2018 5:59am Apr 15, 2018 5:59am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} ...which reminds me. Tina Turner cut an interesting version, but I like the CCR original which reminds of happier times (except when I'm loaded)... https://youtu.be/5hid10EgMXE
Rocking track
  • #13,003
  • Apr 15, 2018 6:01am Apr 15, 2018 6:01am
Quoting jmn5611
.... Speaking of documentaries, Threads is making the rounds again. It is a cold war era bbc show about nuclear war....
There was an excellent German drama titled 1983 (?) with English subtitles. Very well made and revealed how both sides were just as scared of each other.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #13,004
  • Apr 15, 2018 6:09am Apr 15, 2018 6:09am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} ...which reminds me. Tina Turner cut an interesting version, but I like the CCR original which reminds of happier times (except when I'm loaded)... https://youtu.be/5hid10EgMXE
Yep, CCR version is much better in my view. Seems to capture the scene much better.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,005
  • Apr 15, 2018 6:23am Apr 15, 2018 6:23am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I'm not, I could do this with you all day long, but it takes away from the spirit of the thread, which is to discuss topics of relevance from each of it's members.
Likewise, but who made you judge and jury of this thread? There's no umpiring here, just you and me.

Quoting jmn5611
You being upset because some of your friends got banned for being anti-semitic is not really a topic. However, if you would like to discuss free speech, I am more than happy to do that.
I've no idea who you're referring to as my "friends". FF is just usernames and a bit of banter.

I did offer to debate you a while ago, your memory's foggy. Let me remind you of something. I first posted in this thread some ramblings regarding Henry VIII, Brexit, Blair and his Catholic conversion. Something you labelled as conspiracy theory. To each his own.

A few weeks ago I visited the eponymously named Battle near Hastings to try and discover/learn a little bit more about William "the bastard" and result of a fight the ramifications of which we English are still living under today. Turns out William flew the Pope's standard into battle - a little detail oft ignored by the basic English schooling system. It also turns out that today's historians are doubting the veracity of the "arrow in the eye" story featured so plausibly on the Bayeaux Tapestry. There's a current academic school of thought that William won that battle by committing the ignoble act of sending in a death squad to murder Harold.

History is in flux you see. All history. There are those who simply are ignorant, those who are willingly ignorant, and those who don't want others to know. But the truth always rises in the end. That's just the way it is.
  • #13,006
  • Apr 15, 2018 6:29am Apr 15, 2018 6:29am
Quoting simond2002
{quote} Likewise, but who made you judge and jury of this thread? There's no umpiring here, just you and me. {quote} I've no idea who you're referring to as my "friends". FF is just usernames and a bit of banter. I did offer to debate you a while ago, your memory's foggy. Let me remind you of something. I first posted in this thread some ramblings regarding Henry VIII, Brexit, Blair and his Catholic conversion. Something you labelled as conspiracy theory. To each his own. A few weeks ago I visited the eponymously named Battle near Hastings to try...
Well now, I guess we can go on and quit playing politics. Here is my primary issue. I am from the USA, and you are from England. Free speech has been litigated many times here. Is it not so there? Can you simply say anything you want? Can you yell "fire" in a crowded theatre? You are quite correct, history is always in flux, and that will definitely lead to a great conversation. The Brits are center left, would you agree?

Quoting simond2002
{quote} Likewise, but who made you judge and jury of this thread? There's no umpiring here, just you and me. {quote} I've no idea who you're referring to as my "friends". FF is just usernames and a bit of banter. I did offer to debate you a while ago, your memory's foggy. Let me remind you of something. I first posted in this thread some ramblings regarding Henry VIII, Brexit, Blair and his Catholic conversion. Something you labelled as conspiracy theory. To each his own. A few weeks ago I visited the eponymously named Battle near Hastings to try...
I may have been hasty and a bit partisan with the conspiracy theory attack. My regrets.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,007
  • Apr 15, 2018 7:06am Apr 15, 2018 7:06am
Quoting jmn5611
Free speech has been litigated many times here. Is it not so there? Can you simply say anything you want?
Yes, free speech has been litigated here many times. It's about to be litigated again. Have you heard of the very talented Jewish Jazz artist Gilad Atzmon (http://www.gilad.co.uk/)?
Please don't tell me you don't see the irony in this.

Quoting jmn5611
The Brits are center left, would you agree?
I struggle with questions like this because I do not understand the concept of left, right, centre, Tory, Labour, "Libtard" etc etc etc. And again, phrases and terminology like this always seem to be in flux. For example, the word "Socialism" seems illustrative of an ethical construct until someone puts the word "National" in front of it. And on and on.

As I've gotten older, my focus has been on the concept of "truth"; and not the kind of truth we find in the academic standard, which I think both you and I have agreed can be nebulous. The truth I talk of is simply a personal thing and the aggregate of facts to hand. Power doesn't seem to like this kind of truth.

Quoting jmn5611
I may have been hasty and a bit partisan with the conspiracy theory attack. My regrets.
Noted.
  • #13,008
  • Apr 15, 2018 8:07am Apr 15, 2018 8:07am
Staging a false flag.
Over and over again.
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  • #13,009
  • Apr 15, 2018 8:14am Apr 15, 2018 8:14am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvoS5s1FS0w
  • #13,010
  • Apr 15, 2018 8:30am Apr 15, 2018 8:30am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} How would you reconcile the legal challenges, if say the airlines imposed a weight requirement on it's potential future passengers? In reality that is what would have to happen, or an accommodation be made for extra large such as special section made exclusively for them, (of course it will cost a lot more) How do you feel about that? What solutions do you propose to address this problem?
You mean how would I argue against hurt feelings? I don't have a clue! My case is of simple economics. Someone has to pay to transport that great hulk and why should I be the one to subsidise it? You have white privilege so is this skinny privilege?
  • #13,011
  • Apr 15, 2018 8:32am Apr 15, 2018 8:32am
Quoting AlexC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvoS5s1FS0w
I heard that an independent Swiss lab analysed the Salisbury poisoning substance and found it was not Novichok but a substance similar, that the UK and the US have.
  • #13,012
  • Apr 15, 2018 8:39am Apr 15, 2018 8:39am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} ...which reminds me. Tina Turner cut an interesting version, but I like the CCR original which reminds of happier times (except when I'm loaded)... https://youtu.be/5hid10EgMXE
Hey Exodus,

maria mountains824 will thank you for watching this all the way through...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7cihNi5Gjk
  • #13,013
  • Apr 15, 2018 8:50am Apr 15, 2018 8:50am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I heard that an independent Swiss lab analysed the Salisbury poisoning substance and found it was not Novichok but a substance similar, that the UK and the US have.
You mean BZ toxin.
That information must be supressed.
Pronto!!
  • #13,014
  • Apr 15, 2018 8:55am Apr 15, 2018 8:55am
Quoting jen101
{quote} You mean how would I argue against hurt feelings? I don't have a clue! My case is of simple economics. Someone has to pay to transport that great hulk and why should I be the one to subsidise it? You have white privilege so is this skinny privilege?
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  • #13,015
  • Apr 15, 2018 2:12pm Apr 15, 2018 2:12pm
Quoting Redeflect
I, personally, try to be very conservative when it comes to tangible things and am quite reluctant to contribute my DNA to a population that's currently unsustainable. Case in point: I'm a young straight male that drives a tiny orange Prius. It's hard to find a more conservative cockblock than that. Maybe a moped.
Do you eat soy?
  • #13,016
  • Apr 15, 2018 2:19pm Apr 15, 2018 2:19pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Do you eat soy?
When I'm in the mood. I'm not allergic if you're asking. But, generally, no. I am quite happy with my efficient GMO's and couldn't care less about the ego-tripping.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #13,017
  • Apr 15, 2018 2:48pm Apr 15, 2018 2:48pm
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} When I'm in the mood. I'm not allergic if you're asking. But, generally, no. I am quite happy with my efficient GMO's and couldn't care less about the ego-tripping.
Caution with soy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjZs0DGW1Jk
  • #13,018
  • Apr 15, 2018 4:55pm Apr 15, 2018 4:55pm
Tomahawk missiles made by Raytheon Co. @ $222.01 RTN, +0.48%. (https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/rtn?mod=MW_story_quote)

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-how-much-it-will-cost-to-replace-the-tomahawks-used-in-syria-2017-04-07
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  • #13,019
  • Apr 16, 2018 12:01am Apr 16, 2018 12:01am
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} When I'm in the mood. I'm not allergic if you're asking. But, generally, no. I am quite happy with my efficient GMO's and couldn't care less about the ego-tripping.
What do you think of feminism?
  • #13,020
  • Apr 16, 2018 12:25am Apr 16, 2018 12:25am
Quoting jen101
{quote} What do you think of feminism?
Jen, it is all very well to discuss the Religion of permanent offence, Brexit, Socialism and gender confusion in this forum, but to raise the cancerous subject of feminism might be too much
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