[MT4 EA] o.Hannah / WARNING - BEFORE YOU BUY
- #103
- Apr 14, 2018 1:55am Apr 14, 2018 1:55am
- Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,689 Posts
Excuses after excuses after excuses....
Oh no, the EA is great, absolutly top, just that it produces terrible results on all demo accounts for some outside higher force reasons.....
Just like kenshin mentioned in one of his previous posts- the EA works great until a trader sneezes- then all the sudden it breaks!
Oh no, the EA is great, absolutly top, just that it produces terrible results on all demo accounts for some outside higher force reasons.....
Just like kenshin mentioned in one of his previous posts- the EA works great until a trader sneezes- then all the sudden it breaks!
PVSRA
- #104
- Apr 14, 2018 2:06am Apr 14, 2018 2:06am
- Joined May 2010 | Status: Straight line Fest | 3,194 Posts
{quote} It's not you who decides when the bell rings , buffoon.
PS : accusing 3 Brokers without concrete proofs , oHannah risks a criminal complaint by Oanda , IG and Global Prime.
Really....??????????????????????????
Oanda is fine, IG has to big a ...... and Global Prime may well have downloaded as 1:50 due to him being in the US.
The advertisers won't be happy.......but I have to agree with you, o'Hannah will have to be tied to a post and shot at dawn...
- #105
- Apr 14, 2018 2:17am Apr 14, 2018 2:17am
- Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,689 Posts
Excuses after excuses after excuses.... Oh no, the EA is great, absolutly top, just that it produces terrible results on all demo accounts for some outside higher force reasons.....
But I have to admit he is smart enough not to do this on live account otherwise he would lose much more then he will ever gain with his sales...
PVSRA
- #107
- Apr 14, 2018 2:52am Apr 14, 2018 2:52am
- Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,689 Posts
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Careful, bro, you might cause oHannahbot's profits cut from the sales drop down significantly...
PVSRA
- #108
- Apr 14, 2018 4:52am Apr 14, 2018 4:52am
- Joined May 2010 | Status: Straight line Fest | 3,194 Posts
{quote} I'm sure it has nothing to do with a martingale lot size sequence which no 1K, 3K or even 5K account would survive!!!!
Lucky he took those saver trades eh Sherlock, marginal, but close shave...eh...pheww
- #109
- Apr 14, 2018 4:59am Apr 14, 2018 4:59am
{quote} I'm sure it has nothing to do with a martingale lot size sequence which no 1K, 3K or even 5K account would survive!!!!
0.01, 0.02, 0.06, 0.18, 0.54, 1.62, 4.86, 14.58, etc...
IMHO The maximum (relatively) safe effective leverage for 10K is 10:1 which is 1.0 lot in total at any one time. Anything above that is never going to last.
It's not testing either, he's trying to recover from that drawdown. It'll most likely work a few times until the death sequence. Then it's either margin call, pull the plug for a huge loss, or both.
moodybot - ignored - I can see no reasonable explanation why you continue to defend him. It's another game, or a diversion, to get bogged down in petty details which should not be of any consequence, or to gloss over glaring discrepancies between what can clearly be seen as opposed to what is advertised. Either that or there is some other relation between you and oHannah that goes beyond being a paid customer. Please though, do not risk any live unless you can be absolutely certain that it's safe to do so. I can guarantee that it's not safe in it's current state, and I have my doubts whether it ever will be. Take care mate, best wishes with all your endeavors, and many vibrant green pips to you.
- #110
- Apr 14, 2018 5:01am Apr 14, 2018 5:01am
- Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,689 Posts
Wassa matter, oHannahboot, you worried for your salesincome, huh?
EDIT:
Ok, I see kenshin ignored you just before my reply. Good, he saved you some more humiliation here..
EDIT:
Ok, I see kenshin ignored you just before my reply. Good, he saved you some more humiliation here..
PVSRA
- #111
- Apr 14, 2018 5:20am Apr 14, 2018 5:20am
- Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,689 Posts
{quote} Okay, even I can see the *3 martingale there. It can't be safe. So, on a 10K I'd be looking at a sequence like this: 0.01, 0.02, 0.06, 0.18, 0.54, 1.62, 4.86, 14.58, etc... IMHO The maximum (relatively) safe effective leverage for 10K is 10:1 which is 1.0 lot in total at any one time. Anything above that is never going to last. It's not testing either, he's trying to recover from that drawdown. It'll most likely work a few times until the death sequence. Then it's either margin call, pull the plug for a huge loss, or both. moodybot - ignored...
The problem with this picture is one thing- and that is what Profitfarmer pointed out in the first place on the original thread and got ignored and treated like dirt and what not- namely it is impossible to do that kind of shit on 1K account or simillar account sizes without risking 100% of that account.
The scammer actualy did a huge favor to all naive newbies that migh buy this shit in the future because if he would not ignore Profitfarmer for a very valid comment he made on his original thread he would not raise such a high number of eyebrows- including mine . Because before that act I didn't even know oHannah and his stupid EA exsisted.
PVSRA
- #112
- Apr 14, 2018 5:22am Apr 14, 2018 5:22am
- | Commercial User | Joined Aug 2014 | 3,922 Posts
{quote} I'm sure it has nothing to do with a martingale lot size sequence which no 1K, 3K or even 5K account would survive!!!!
that "test" was done and done, yet here we are yet another similar example, with open trades, again.
not only that it is all carried to the weekend, when a "wrongful" 50-100 pips gap plus the opening wider sreap can easily signal a game over for any 5-10k account.
and make no mistake, such a gap, with current global politics ( and even without) can happen easily, any time.
also, a returning subject is - and was one of the original actually- that trades cant be scaled this fashion.
how to scale down to any account a 3x multiplier martingale, starting with 0.01 lot?
the simple answer is, you cant.
there is many martingale based EAs out there, and most can easily produce 20+% in 60 days, and a lot more of used such aggressive lot multiplier.
what is clear to most, that these aggressive systems dont last.
even without added fog for imaginary or real broker issues, and even without the need to pricey webinar manuals for them.
ohannah gives some sort of product, and it is not a scam in that aspect.
but he does state a full auto EA in his own selling pitch, and that is not true comes to the flagship demo shown.
also not true that it is safe to run, the current open trades are a testimony to that.
the history is there to see about previous martingale.
at best, it is questionable sales practices, and at worst direct misleading of potential customers.
to reinforce the point, owner/coder or other positive supporters arent running this EA ( least the 5th full reincarnation/rename) on live account.
yes, none has running it live!
it is true that hope dies last, some hardcore supporters will remain likely to the final sink to oblivion, but i think the majority has eyes opened and see things what they are: a great salesman with a bottle of the old snake oil, repackaged.
there is always, always another trade!!
- #113
- Apr 14, 2018 5:31am Apr 14, 2018 5:31am
- Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,689 Posts
{quote} when shown in history, moodybot tried to talk this out, some excuses of manual tests for big lot, and some play trying to ignore the gleaming example of 3x marti multipliers. that "test" was done and done, yet here we are yet another similar example, with open trades, again. not only that it is all carried to the weekend, when a "wrongful" 50-100 pips gap plus the opening wider sreap can easily signal a game over for any 5-10k account. and make no mistake, such a gap, with current global politics ( and even without) can happen easily, any...
So all the actions are screaming SCAMM very loud. And all the potencial buyers have you to thank in the first place, because you probably prevented many of them getting sucked in..
PVSRA
- #115
- Apr 14, 2018 5:52am Apr 14, 2018 5:52am
- | Commercial User | Joined Aug 2014 | 3,922 Posts
there is always, always another trade!!
- #116
- Apr 14, 2018 5:58am Apr 14, 2018 5:58am
- Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,689 Posts
{quote} What a crock of #hit...this guy writes an ea that no one can use. Then wants more money to see a webinar. You : moody always posting positive results and abusassad...suckholed me into buying this piece of garbage...now I cant make it profitable he wants me to pay more to hear some crap about brokers...it ran like crap on every broker I tried.... I asked this question on the webinar forum "I am curious when I look in the closed trades list of your demo attached here. Trades are 0.01 lots and other sizes 0.02...
PVSRA
{quote} frankly, if you buy an EA, and get good live results, would you keep going with it? i think i would. i think anyone would.
but we think differently ricky72, and perhaps you see trading different than i do. and that is fine.
I am not here to defend and "protect" the vendor and contradict your arguments and questions, which are legitimate.
I must admit also that I was not pleased when (suddenly) the paid webinars came out. Because initially it was said everyone who purchases the EA will get a lifetime support. And yes, he could have tested his EAs on real accounts (perhaps micro)...
But i can understand if the work was getting much more then expected for the vendor, conditions may change. And if I learn good things from the webinars, then itīs worth the money.
My favorite garage also kept the winter and summer tires for free and now they ask 30 EUR for it... Itīs up to me if i pay or put the tires at home (no place).
I have a good contact with Ohannah and I wish his EA will be profitable on long term. I am a full time employee with a family and still a crappy trader (with no time left). I wonīt criticise his product untill I am not 100% sure that it doesnīt work.
I will start the new release of the EA tomorrow and post my link to the myfxbook track record here.
If the demo test works well i will try on a life account (maybe micro) in 2 or 3 weeks. Then we know more.
Sorry for my bad english
- #118
- Apr 14, 2018 9:08am Apr 14, 2018 9:08am
- Joined Aug 2014 | Status: Trader | 2,774 Posts
{quote} I'm sure it has nothing to do with a martingale lot size sequence which no 1K, 3K or even 5K account would survive!!!!
FF members , please read carefully :
- #119
- Apr 14, 2018 5:01pm Apr 14, 2018 5:01pm
- Joined May 2014 | Status: Trader | 4,735 Posts
far away from me intention to defend this guy in his actions,of course i cant be blind and not see how smart he is in whats he is doing in a commercial way,very smart and good or bad taken by others i have thumbs up for smart people.he dont cheat he dont steal he just ask money for his services,you want it you pay for it.you dont want it you dont pay all good.lets be honest.
now this EA bot or software call it how you want i dont think was really advertised as any holy grail with fix or aproximative target profit,i wish i see that so i can jump against this commercial guy as well with more troops.i agree prices are up in the sky,webinar with fees just to be able to jump in to figure better how to use the tool you just paid for ... well this is commercial world guys you have to accept it and if for me price is really ridiculos for the one who sell is his price and is right.
usual disclaimers are taken like something ... usual no read ,you know like the skinny letter you usual ignore on all contracts you sign.
'' fuck i didnt read that cos was too skinny and forgot my glasses at home '' or '' i didnt tought that skinny text really have any importance'' .
well IT DOES have importance ,in fact have the most importance you should consider as first step in your plan to sign or buy anything.
so this i saw in this software disclaimer and call me dumb if that is skinny text.
https://ohannahea.com/disclaimer/
cheer up
now this EA bot or software call it how you want i dont think was really advertised as any holy grail with fix or aproximative target profit,i wish i see that so i can jump against this commercial guy as well with more troops.i agree prices are up in the sky,webinar with fees just to be able to jump in to figure better how to use the tool you just paid for ... well this is commercial world guys you have to accept it and if for me price is really ridiculos for the one who sell is his price and is right.
usual disclaimers are taken like something ... usual no read ,you know like the skinny letter you usual ignore on all contracts you sign.
'' fuck i didnt read that cos was too skinny and forgot my glasses at home ''
or '' i didnt tought that skinny text really have any importance'' .well IT DOES have importance ,in fact have the most importance you should consider as first step in your plan to sign or buy anything.
so this i saw in this software disclaimer and call me dumb if that is skinny text.
https://ohannahea.com/disclaimer/
cheer up
Take what you can, give nothing back
- #120
- Edited 11:16pm Apr 14, 2018 10:57pm | Edited 11:16pm
Completely agree. Not a scam in the technical sense of the word. He just didn't disclose any of them negative details. More stupid for me for not being diligent and looking for them previously, but that is beside the point.
He's just the same as the rest of the Commercial 'mob'. I can't honestly see any of them with a working plan for sale yet, not even one. Out of the rest of the members, there's maybe a handful that I am aware of who I believe are long term profit, although that's just an opinion/guess. Good luck to anyone who is still on their journey.
At any rate, all his cards are on the table now, regardless of whether he likes it or not. Hopefully any future buyers can be better prepared with all the information they need in order to decide whether it's a worthy purchase. At least this way, they are more likely to ask the questions I should have asked before they make that decision.
He's just the same as the rest of the Commercial 'mob'. I can't honestly see any of them with a working plan for sale yet, not even one. Out of the rest of the members, there's maybe a handful that I am aware of who I believe are long term profit, although that's just an opinion/guess. Good luck to anyone who is still on their journey.
At any rate, all his cards are on the table now, regardless of whether he likes it or not. Hopefully any future buyers can be better prepared with all the information they need in order to decide whether it's a worthy purchase. At least this way, they are more likely to ask the questions I should have asked before they make that decision.