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  • #4,921
  • Apr 9, 2018 9:30am Apr 9, 2018 9:30am
[quote=oHannah;10948097]
Quoting billytt
{quote} Feel free to post your performance and impress upon all of us your wisdom.
i do not have to....
performance, bank statements etc can all be falsified quite easily.....
In PC world anything is possible.

i have retired from trading but just visit FF for a laugh.....

i say retired,i still work on methods to sell (not on FF though) plus i am currently trading for my lovely girl friend....
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #4,922
  • Apr 9, 2018 9:33am Apr 9, 2018 9:33am
[quote=billytt;10948125]
Quoting oHannah
{quote} i do not have to.... performance, bank statements etc can all be falsified quite easily..... In PC world anything is possible. i have retired from trading but just visit FF for a laugh..... i say retired,i still work on methods to sell (not on FF though) plus i am currently trading for my lovely girl friend....
To tell a man what he accomplishes is so easy, and then tell me that you cant do it... This is the theme of this thread, traders that know everything, but produce nothing. For my clients that are reading this thread, look closely at the attitudes in this thread. Do not be these traders that claim trading is easy, but show no evidence of competency. If you are a trader that cant trade a demo account and take it very seriously, that is your warning you are not mature enough to trade a live account yet. Do not join the ranks of beaten and hurt traders who only show skill in spitting on the performance of others.

o.Hannah
  • #4,923
  • Apr 9, 2018 9:44am Apr 9, 2018 9:44am
Quoting oHannah
Quoting billytt
{quote} To tell a man what he accomplishes is so easy, and then tell me that you cant do it... This is the theme of this thread, traders that know everything, but produce nothing. For my clients that are reading this thread, look closely at the attitudes in this thread. Do not be these traders that claim trading is easy, but show no evidence of competency. If you are a trader that cant trade a demo account and take it very seriously, that is your warning you are not mature enough to trade a live account yet. Do not join the
...
Trading is not easy, But you do need the bank roll to trade successfully....
Huge amount to make a tiny %%% of it.
Like in warfare , one man on a hill with a machine gun will need many men to take him out.(forget planes etc)

i have actually traded a demo account about 4 years ago and lost it all, it is not the same.
i can play poker on demo and make millions, it is not the same.

If you are making real money by selling tips off a demo that is good and i applaud you....
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #4,924
  • Apr 9, 2018 9:45am Apr 9, 2018 9:45am
Quoting oHannah
Quoting billytt
{quote} To tell a man what he accomplishes is so easy, and then tell me that you cant do it... This is the theme of this thread, traders that know everything, but produce nothing. For my clients that are reading this thread, look closely at the attitudes in this thread. Do not be these traders that claim trading is easy, but show no evidence of competency. If you are a trader that cant trade a demo account and take it very seriously, that is your warning you are not mature enough to trade a live account yet. Do not join the
...
In your world, non-commercial members are obligated to show a live account getting nothing in return,

while a COMMERCIAL MEMBER like yourself must get paid for showing a demo account....

Sure
  • #4,925
  • Apr 9, 2018 9:46am Apr 9, 2018 9:46am
Quoting billytt
{quote}{quote} Trading is not easy, But you do need the bank roll to trade successfully.... Huge amount to make a tiny %%% of it. Like in warfare , one man on a hill with a machine gun will need many men to take him out.(forget planes etc) i have actually traded a demo account about 4 years ago and lost it all, it is not the same. i can play poker on demo and make millions, it is not the same. If you are making real money by selling tips off a demo that is good and i applaud you....
I simply ask you prove yourself, a demo is free. Create one. Beat my performance. It is simple, and will only cost you the time you decide to spend on it. I have no doubts this offer to prove yourself will be met with an excuse of why you cant.

o.Hannah
  • #4,926
  • Apr 9, 2018 9:51am Apr 9, 2018 9:51am
Quoting ReverseFlash
{quote}{quote} In your world, non-commercial members are obligated to show a live account getting nothing in return, while a COMMERCIAL MEMBER like yourself must get paid for showing a demo account.... Sure
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a fraction of what i made last week.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #4,927
  • Apr 9, 2018 9:52am Apr 9, 2018 9:52am
Quoting billytt
{quote} {image} a fraction of what i made last week.
As anticipated, the cost of your demo would be your pride...

o.Hannah
  • #4,928
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:01am Apr 9, 2018 10:01am
Quoting oHannah
{quote} I simply ask you prove yourself, a demo is free. Create one. Beat my performance. It is simple, and will only cost you the time you decide to spend on it. I have no doubts this offer to prove yourself will be met with an excuse of why you cant. o.Hannah
i do not have to prove anything.

I have no need to.

i am not trying to impress anyone, ok my gf thinks i am awesome as she sees what i do.

i have 6 trader friends, 2 own adviser/tipping/trading business's and the other 4 are private.
They do not visit threads like FF as they are pros ( not prostitutes)

Just for your benefit, i trade off the 08-00 15 minute bar break Cable, almost every day .(just for my gf) including tomorrow and so on.
Last week i had a loss but i counter,so infact i did not lose.
It does not matter if you believe me or not. i know what i can do and i am not trying to sell you anything....

just chill out and have fun in here
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #4,929
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:04am Apr 9, 2018 10:04am
Quoting billytt
{quote} i do not have to prove anything. I have no need to. i am not trying to impress anyone, ok my gf thinks i am awesome as she sees what i do. i have 6 trader friends, 2 own adviser/tipping/trading business's and the other 4 are private. They do not visit threads like FF as they are pros ( not prostitutes) Just for your benefit, i trade off the 08-00 15 minute bar break Cable, almost every day .(just for my gf) including tomorrow and so on. Last week i had a loss but i counter,so infact i did not lose. It does not matter if you believe me or...
You speak much more politely when asked to back up your claims, I appreciate the change in your tone. Thank you.

o.Hannah
  • #4,930
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:08am Apr 9, 2018 10:08am
seriously, i made lots last week
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SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #4,931
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:11am Apr 9, 2018 10:11am
Quoting oHannah
{quote} You speak much more politely when asked to back up your claims, I appreciate the change in your tone. Thank you. o.Hannah
i am polite thank you.

i told you what i am going to do tomorrow Tuesday, and Wed and Thur and Fri.

what are you going to do tomorrow?

It does not matter does it, i use real money, you don't but you obviously sell to people, i wish you luck. been there done it ....
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #4,932
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:12am Apr 9, 2018 10:12am
Quoting billytt
seriously, i made lots last week {image}
All of us here on the forums will take your word for it.

o.Hannah
  • #4,933
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:15am Apr 9, 2018 10:15am
I frequent the commercial section from time to time, and pass by this thread to see whats happening, and I have some thoughts on commercial members, and how they should conduct and market themselves online.

If a commercial member is trying to market, and sell some product or service they should be backing it up to instill trust to prospective clients.

For example, a signals service should have a live account running in which they are executing their own signals on to show proof of the signals success in a real market environment.

A commercial member selling indicators and/or EA's should run their products on a live verified account to instill the same level of trust to their prospective clients. Why? Well its simple, a client will more than likely be using the products on a live account, and if they can see the developer is trusting their own products, and using them on a live account it will help the client to be more trusting, and have more belief in a product that is working in a live environment.

I don't see any point for a developer to run their products on demo, that does not prove anything, cos demo is demo, and will always be demo, like monopoly money.. Its not real, its fantasy, but put your products on a live account, back it up with your own money, and you will get more prospective clients to believe in your products if you can show you believe in them too.

I wish FF could enforce these same rules to commercial members, so if they want to market their indicators or EA's etc, then they need to back it up with a live verified TE to prove their products work backed up with their own real money.

And lastly if a commercial member is running a demo account successfully with their products, then surely there should be no big deal to put it on a live account and do the same thing? If they confident to market their products and flash a profitable demo account, then they should be confident enough in their products to do the same thing on a real account and get the same results right?
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #4,934
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:16am Apr 9, 2018 10:16am
Quoting oHannah
{quote} All of us here on the forums will take your word for it. o.Hannah
and that is what it is all about, have fun and make money doing it....

But don't scam......
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #4,935
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:18am Apr 9, 2018 10:18am
Quoting mrdfx
I frequent the commercial section from time to time, and pass by this thread to see whats happening, and I have some thoughts on commercial members, and how they should conduct and market themselves online. If a commercial member is trying to market, and sell some product or service they should be backing it up to instill trust to prospective clients. For example, a signals service should have a live account running in which they are executing their own signals on to show proof of the signals success in a real market environment. A commercial member...

well said....
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #4,936
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:26am Apr 9, 2018 10:26am
Please message me once the FF regulators agree with you, and I will comply with all forum and commercial member rules. You can contact me at [email protected].

o.Hannah
  • #4,937
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:32am Apr 9, 2018 10:32am
Quoting oHannah
Please message me once the FF regulators agree with you, and I will comply with all forum and commercial member rules. You can contact me at [email protected]. o.Hannah
Does this mean that you do not have the confidence to run oHannah on a decent live account?
  • #4,938
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:38am Apr 9, 2018 10:38am
Quoting oHannah
{quote} I was going to post my sales figures for this quarter, but then I thought I should probably be more humble about my performance. In short, my demo account is quite profitable, and my customers generous and loving. This is why they have all of my dedication and attention at all hours, every day. o.Hannah
a new definition of traders.
after all that what traders do. posting sales figures! LOL

" This is the theme of this thread, traders that know everything, but produce nothing. For my clients that are reading this thread, look closely at the attitudes in this thread. Do not be these traders that claim trading is easy, but show no evidence of competency."

those traders watching this thread, better take note what a commercial seller's claim to fame....sales figures....and while there is lots of humbleness when comes to live performance to show.
demo is profitable as long as it sells to starry eyed hopefuls ready to copy the master and trade demo.
but those dollars earnt ( of course not by the sellers, those paid to him are real) wont buy much fun end of the week.
however your real dollars will keep earning demo promises, that is great, and a seller without a live account to show that those quarterly sales figures went where one's mouth is.

suggestion to all to look closely to this session, and notice how 99% of the commercial members dont put any sizeable live account up to showcase their great product.
they sell hope, and support that until you are squeezed dry. hope dies slowly.
challenge any of such readers to tell reasons why a commercial guru would not use their own staff on live if such great thing?
and be assured, there is very few up-to-date live commercial TE out here though the section is full with "successful commercials".

i hope one day the time comes when finally no commercial will be allowed without a live account. not holding my breath though, i dont think Twee ready for making a ghost section on the forum!

just a few facts.
not much to converse since most posting members on the thread are banned by an unproven commercial success.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #4,939
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:39am Apr 9, 2018 10:39am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} Does this mean that you do not have the confidence to run oHannah on a decent live account?
I suspect this intense concern for me and my personal trading is due to both jealously and the idea I would make the same mistake as ProfitFarmer in allowing anyone to view my personal account. Gentlemen, there are aggressive scammers on these boards that show no account, demo or otherwise, but I have your full attention. Think on why you are so focused on me and my trading, I am starting to see that my performance is impacting you on a personal level.

o.Hannah
  • #4,940
  • Apr 9, 2018 10:44am Apr 9, 2018 10:44am
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