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  • #981
  • Apr 7, 2018 1:24pm Apr 7, 2018 1:24pm
Quoting bw-man
{quote} I use only 1 pair for 1 Account. I use Account 1 with EURUSD. M1, and the Signal 0 Set from mrgmrg. Some pages before here. Account 2 is with EURJPY, and same Set from Account 1. Account 3 is with default set. Broker Pepperstone, and with Razer/zero Accounts. Spread 0-0.4 and with Commission. What I not understand is, why he open 3-5 trades at the same time ? Why not only 1 trade ? And the next open trade with more space from first trade ? For example every 50 points. This is better with Martingal. This is better for survival the account....
You made a mistake bro. You would have tested this on demo first. And there are many options in setting. You should try different settings by your own and then try on demo and once you see good results, only then go live.

You can limit number of orders in setting.
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  • #982
  • Apr 7, 2018 1:55pm Apr 7, 2018 1:55pm
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} Thanks for sharing. Your initial deposit is way too high. Try with realistic amount of 3000 to 5000 $. If you tried on micro account with 10k deposit then return is very low. Only 160+ bucks
That's the problem with martingale. Unless you have proper hedging in place, you need to run low lots compared to equity. However, a 10k investment would have made around $1600 or 16%. With 100k you can probably run some 20 pairs, so 15% per pair is 300% per year.
  • #983
  • Apr 7, 2018 2:04pm Apr 7, 2018 2:04pm
Quoting TraderTero
{quote} That's the problem with martingale. Unless you have proper hedging in place, you need to run low lots compared to equity. However, a 10k investment would have made around $1600 or 16%. With 100k you can probably run some 20 pairs, so 15% per pair is 300% per year.
I don't go live on the basis of back tests, rather believe on future demo tests only. But still back testing is interesting game on weekend.

Back test results Year 2016
USDJPY
Signal 12
Spread 1.7
Auto Lot Size False
Fixed Lot 0.5
Initial Deposit 5000$
Drawdown 11%

This is really amazing for me, where all other martingale EA fails, this one survives.
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  • #984
  • Apr 7, 2018 2:52pm Apr 7, 2018 2:52pm
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} I don't go live on the basis of back tests, rather believe on future demo tests only. But still back testing is interesting game on weekend. Back test results Year 2016 USDJPY Signal 12 Spread 1.7 Auto Lot Size False Fixed Lot 0.5 Initial Deposit 5000$ Drawdown 11% This is really amazing for me, where all other martingale EA fails, this one survives. {image} {image}
Kashif , if your test is from January 2016 to End March 2018 ..this is 27 months ..with an average of 11% return monthly and Maximimum DD of 11% ( which does not mean that every month you reach 11% dd) . This is roughly 300% gain over 27 months ( 300/27= 11.11%) . I would go live with this ( after retesting with 99,90% modeling quality) .

If your testing is from December 2016 ..then this is even better.
  • #985
  • Apr 7, 2018 10:14pm Apr 7, 2018 10:14pm
Quoting stefdek
{quote} Kashif , if your test is from January 2016 to End March 2018 ..this is 27 months ..with an average of 11% return monthly and Maximimum DD of 11% ( which does not mean that every month you reach 11% dd) . This is roughly 300% gain over 27 months ( 300/27= 11.11%) . I would go live with this ( after retesting with 99,90% modeling quality) . If your testing is from December 2016 ..then this is even better.

Hi Stephen.

This is only for year 2016 (Jan 1 till Dec 31)
I chose this pair for year 2016 because there are spikes of 200+ and 360+ pips without any retracement and all other martingale / grid EA's fail the test with deposit of 5000$.except this one from mrgmrg.

Still I will test this on VPS for few weeks before going live. If anyone else tested this on VPS (demo or real) then kindly share the results.
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  • #986
  • Apr 8, 2018 3:34am Apr 8, 2018 3:34am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} You made a mistake bro. You would have tested this on demo first. And there are many options in setting. You should try different settings by your own and then try on demo and once you see good results, only then go live. You can limit number of orders in setting.
I am not new in this Business. And i test this EA already with Demo. But you can not compare BT with Demo. And can not compare Demo with Real. All 3 have different results. You will see. But you say nothing to the main Problem. What is with the too many open Trades close each other open Trades. If i Limit it to 5 Max open trades, then he open it at same points. And then ? Many times you will Hit the SL.
  • #987
  • Apr 8, 2018 3:52am Apr 8, 2018 3:52am
See here, this is real. What i try to say are the open price. Why he open first 2 trades with 1 pip different ? And then the trade 3+4 have the same pip number. What is this for a shit ? And see all Trades, the open trade price. You say this is a good martingal range ? For me are all too close. I World make the space higher, so minimum 100 or 150 pips, to the next open trade.
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  • #988
  • Apr 8, 2018 4:43am Apr 8, 2018 4:43am
Quoting bw-man
See here, this is real. What i try to say are the open price. Why he open first 2 trades with 1 pip different ? And then the trade 3+4 have the same pip number. What is this for a shit ? And see all Trades, the open trade price. You say this is a good martingal range ? For me are all too close. I World make the space higher, so minimum 100 or 150 pips, to the next open trade. {image}
yes, you are right. Results are different in backtest, demo and live but not that much. Can you please share your set file here? I cannot find any set file here in this forum shared by mrgmrg.

My backtest results for April 6 and demo VPS test are almost same.
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  • #989
  • Apr 9, 2018 5:12am Apr 9, 2018 5:12am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} yes, you are right. Results are different in backtest, demo and live but not that much. Can you please share your set file here? I cannot find any set file here in this forum shared by mrgmrg. My backtest results for April 6 and demo VPS test are almost same.
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...4#post10878474
here it is. The Picture. Upload the Set File is not possible by this Website.
  • #990
  • Apr 9, 2018 5:44am Apr 9, 2018 5:44am
Guys,
The use of Small Signal and Long SL is situational and may need manual handling. If not ready to do so, do not do it.

Transaction too much?
1. Can be limited to Max_Open_Increment "1" for only one transaction per cancle.
2. Max_Open_Positions (Total transaction by Signal in one Magic number) can be lowered as desired.
3. Max_Reopen (default 5), can be lowered as desired.

Rgds,
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #991
  • Apr 9, 2018 6:22am Apr 9, 2018 6:22am
Quoting mrgmrg
Guys, The use of Small Signal and Long SL is situational and may need manual handling. If not ready to do so, do not do it. Transaction too much? 1. Can be limited to Max_Open_Increment "1" for only one transaction per cancle. 2. Max_Open_Positions (Total transaction by Signal in one Magic number) can be lowered as desired. 3. Max_Reopen (default 5), can be lowered as desired. Rgds,
ok, thx, and how we make more space between the open Trades ? This is to Close.
for example to understand what i mean:
It is not nice if EURUSD open with:
1.22222
1.22217
1.22216
1.22200
1.22195
...
...
...

Why not more space ?
1.22222
1.22100
1.22000
1.21900

Why not ? the Change for rebuy and sell the open Trade is so much better and safer.
  • #992
  • Apr 9, 2018 6:52am Apr 9, 2018 6:52am
Is it possible to get open source code for my improvement of this system?
  • #993
  • Apr 9, 2018 7:14am Apr 9, 2018 7:14am
Quoting kaczucha11
I have to ask mrgmrg. What is your plan for EA?. Are you going to release some versions for those who want to play live? and I'm not talking about the version with the expiry date, but the version that will work on the live account all the time. If you do not intend to make it available without time limit, what is your purpose ?, Many people participate in this forum, but no one knows if it's worth it. Nobody will waste time on a project that will never be used by him in the real world. Everyone understands...
Hello mrgmrg,

Can you please reply to this post of kaczucha? And can you release version with at least expiry of 1 month? Going live with 1 week expiry and then for some reason (maybe your system not working for few days) you may not be able to upload new version, can be costly for any user here.

We all know that you will launch final product for sale. Any estimated price in your mind? Thanks
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  • #994
  • Apr 9, 2018 8:21am Apr 9, 2018 8:21am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} I don't go live on the basis of back tests, rather believe on future demo tests only. But still back testing is interesting game on weekend. Back test results Year 2016 USDJPY Signal 12 Spread 1.7 Auto Lot Size False Fixed Lot 0.5 Initial Deposit 5000$ Drawdown 11% This is really amazing for me, where all other martingale EA fails, this one survives. {image} {image}
i try to copy your result. But is not the same. I see, you have only 7231 Bars testet. I have 845701 Bars with my test. I downloaded my Data from Tickstory also 99% Quality.
I test it with M1 Time and you ? You dont write it.
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  • #995
  • Apr 9, 2018 8:24am Apr 9, 2018 8:24am
and here same config, but H1 Time. I have 13788 Bars here.
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  • #996
  • Apr 9, 2018 8:24am Apr 9, 2018 8:24am
Quoting bw-man
{quote} i try to copy your result. But is not the same. I see, you have only 7231 Bars testet. I have 845701 Bars with my test. I downloaded my Data from Tickstory also 99% Quality. I test it with M1 Time and you ? You dont write it. {image}
I tested with m15 and H1. Results are much better in higher time frames.
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  • #997
  • Apr 9, 2018 8:41am Apr 9, 2018 8:41am
this make me crazy. Now is the result another Picture. I Switch in BT only from H1 to M15, make test, and Switch back to H1, test again, an now this Picture.
What is this ? BT is damage ?
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  • #998
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:02am Apr 10, 2018 2:02am
EA is not taking any trades since yesterday. I guess its already expired. Anyone else running this on VPS?
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  • #999
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:47am Apr 10, 2018 2:47am
Quoting KashifNawaz
EA is not taking any trades since yesterday. I guess its already expired. Anyone else running this on VPS?
I run it. But i have no trades too. And no error Messages.
  • #1,000
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:53am Apr 10, 2018 2:53am
Quoting KashifNawaz
EA is not taking any trades since yesterday. I guess its already expired. Anyone else running this on VPS?
That is true. It is not taking any trade.
I have no VPS. But I don't turn off my laptop, the EA is running from yesterday far east opened and no trades so far.
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