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  • #961
  • Apr 7, 2018 4:10am Apr 7, 2018 4:10am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Mybe two week not enough for FT this EA
Once EA will survive spike of 200+ pips on demo account, I will go live. As you are coder of this EA, what will be the best setting to survive such spikes and not too harmful for ranging as well. Means ideal for both ranging and volatile market.
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  • #962
  • Apr 7, 2018 4:26am Apr 7, 2018 4:26am
Hi mrgmrg,

In some EA's, we have to enter spread in pips and in other, it should be in points.

In your EA setting, we need to enter spread in pips or points? For example, if my broker's spread is 1.6 pips, should I enter 1.6 or 16? Please clarify. Thanks in advance
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  • #963
  • Apr 7, 2018 4:37am Apr 7, 2018 4:37am
Quoting KashifNawaz
Hi mrgmrg, In EA setting, we need to enter spread in pips or points? For example, if my broker's spread is 1.6 pips, should I enter 1.6 or 16? Please clarify. Thanks in advance
All parameters, in Pips (not point).
max spreads 1.5 (equal 15 points)
SL 17 equal 170 points, erc
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #964
  • Apr 7, 2018 5:19am Apr 7, 2018 5:19am
Quoting KashifNawaz
Must be something wrong with my history data.
Only 2% drawdown? Must be something wrong with history data. But I am wondering, no other Grid / Martingale / Semi Martingale EA survive on the same data for 1 year even. {image} {image}
As I mentioned in my previous post, there was something wrong.

Thanks to Mr. stefdek , I came to know that MT4 tester use points (and not pips). Did my testing again with actual spread (1.7 pips = 17 Points). Results are looking close to realistic now

From Jan 1, 2015 till April 6, 2018.
Initial deposit 3000 $ (Standard account - Leverage 1:500)
USDJPY - Time frame 15M
Default Setting Except
Spread 1.7 pips
Auto lot False
Lot 0.10
Alert False

14% drawdown
Net Profit 9967 $
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  • #965
  • Apr 7, 2018 5:40am Apr 7, 2018 5:40am
Why don't you use the term 'averaging down' instead?

Nice trading system btw.
'For the market to work, it needs people who think that they can beat it.'
  • #966
  • Apr 7, 2018 6:08am Apr 7, 2018 6:08am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} As I mentioned in my previous post, there was something wrong. Thanks to Mr. stefdek , I came to know that MT4 tester use points (and not pips). Did my testing again with actual spread (1.7 pips = 17 Points). Results are looking close to realistic now From Jan 1, 2015 till April 6, 2018. Initial deposit 3000 $ (Standard account - Leverage 1:500) USDJPY - Time frame 15M Default Setting Except Spread 1.7 pips Auto lot False Lot 0.10 Alert False 14% drawdown Net Profit 9967 $ {image}...
All back tests with 90% modelling quality are far away from tru. Just don't waste your time and download good tick data and you will see different. Back test 99% modelling quality and this Ea most of the time wipe your account or don't make any profit with high dd.
  • #967
  • Apr 7, 2018 6:10am Apr 7, 2018 6:10am
Quoting kaczucha11
{quote} All back tests with 90% modelling quality are far away from tru. Just don't waste your time and download good tick data and you will see different. Back test 99% and this Ea most of the time wipe your account or don't make any profit with high dd.
Thanks dear. I have stop back testing, rather i will test this on VPS for months maybe. Backtesting (even 99.9% modeling) cannot provide actual trade results. It can only give you a glimpse.
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  • #968
  • Apr 7, 2018 6:16am Apr 7, 2018 6:16am
Quoting mrgmrg
Martingale is at high risk. Try it with Micro Martingale, just with a small capital Default Setting for EURUSD with spreads max 1 Pips for M1 *********************************************** Update 2011.11.29 Change: a. Fix LotSize bug (lotstep adjustment) b. Imimating run time error (Send Error) Parameter Additions: 1. Max_Open_Increment - Maximum Open perCandle if the signal is allowed. 2. Trailing_Start_2 3. Trailing_step_2 4. Profit_Percent_Trailing (0 = inactive), increment average percentage for closing 5.Pending_Order (true / false) ***********************************************...
Hello Friend, please can you create a custom Indicator? If yes hit me up lets work together.
  • #969
  • Apr 7, 2018 6:29am Apr 7, 2018 6:29am
Backtest with Q99 guarantees the results are appropriate?
Backtest Q90 is not good?
About BT with Q99 already covered on page 13-17 this forum.
BT is only as an optimized guideline.
For example Forward test (FT) 2 weeks and then BT with Q99 and History standard, which one is most suitable?
in FT, other brokers the results can be different.
Data downloaded Q99 or Q25, not necessarily in accordance with the data from the broker.

So, BT just as a guide only.
Btw please use the most appropriate way.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #970
  • Apr 7, 2018 7:00am Apr 7, 2018 7:00am
What is your plan for EA?.
Are you going to release some versions for those who want to play live? and I'm not talking about the version with the expiry date, but the version that will work on the live account all the time. If you do not intend to make it available without time limit, what is your purpose ?, Many people participate in this forum, but no one knows if it's worth it. Nobody will waste time on a project that will never be used by him in the real world. Everyone understands that you had to put in a lot of work and time and that this is a project that is still under construction, but please specify what are your plans ?.
  • #971
  • Apr 7, 2018 7:18am Apr 7, 2018 7:18am
Quoting ahmetyasin83
What is your plan for EA?. Are you going to release some versions for those who want to play live? and I'm not talking about the version with the expiry date, but the version that will work on the live account all the time. If you do not intend to make it available without time limit, what is your purpose ?, Many people participate in this forum, but no one knows if it's worth it. Nobody will waste time on a project that will never be used by him in the real world. Everyone understands that you had to put in a lot of work and time and that this...

Why do u copy my post?.
  • #972
  • Apr 7, 2018 7:39am Apr 7, 2018 7:39am
One way to make the ea safer would be to implement some kind of hedging function when things start to go wrong. Some martingale ea's start to allow trades to the trend direction after a certain point and use the profits to close the losing trades at BE. Some ea's also use the profits of the most recent mg trades to close the oldest trades at BE. Using both could prove to be successful.

In any case, adding unlimited trades to the losing side will kill any mg ea. However, with this ea you can already limit the Max lots, the number of open positions and the mg multiplier. Limiting the trading hours can also be used to lower the dd as well as using a higher Signal_level.

Get the 99% backtesting tickdata and start to optimize the ea and you should be able to find some good settings but I also think a hedging function would be needed. An equity TP function would be useful.

Here is my multipair demo ft with the ea version 1.04: https://www.fxblue.com/users/afxmmg
  • #973
  • Apr 7, 2018 8:30am Apr 7, 2018 8:30am
Hello...
The EA gives good result for back tests.
The modelling quality is less than 25%. What is the meaning of that ? Please share if anybody knows about it.
Regards,
  • #974
  • Apr 7, 2018 9:06am Apr 7, 2018 9:06am
I have 3 real Accounts with this EA.
Account 1 with 1500€ Crash.
Account 2 with 1000€ Crash.
Account 3 with 750€ go down to 250€ because margin Call. And have many Trades open, and have Rest 60€ equity.
So the BT look nice. But Real world is other World.
If this Crash too. I will not spend more real money. It's too expensive for me. Now it is your turn, to test with real money.
  • #975
  • Apr 7, 2018 9:10am Apr 7, 2018 9:10am
Quoting bw-man
I have 3 real Accounts with this EA. Account 1 with 1500€ Crash. Account 2 with 1000€ Crash. Account 3 with 750€ go down to 250€ because margin Call. And have many Trades open, and have Rest 60€ equity. So the BT look nice. But Real world is other World. If this Crash too. I will not spend more real money. It's too expensive for me. Now it is your turn, to test with real money.
Hi Dear,

Sorry for your loss. Can you please let us know few things which will be helpful for other users.

What was your EA setting? Initial lot auto or fixed?
What pair you used? At one time, how many pairs?
Which broker you used?

Thanks
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  • #976
  • Apr 7, 2018 9:18am Apr 7, 2018 9:18am
Quoting mavilakandy
Hello... The EA gives good result for back tests. The modelling quality is less than 25%. What is the meaning of that ? Please share if anybody knows about it. Regards,
It means your backtesting results are useless. You need to have 99% modeling quality.
  • #977
  • Apr 7, 2018 9:47am Apr 7, 2018 9:47am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} Hi Dear, Sorry for your loss. Can you please let us know few things which will be helpful for other users. What was your EA setting? Initial lot auto or fixed? What pair you used? At one time, how many pairs? Which broker you used? Thanks
I use only 1 pair for 1 Account. I use Account 1 with EURUSD. M1, and the Signal 0 Set from mrgmrg. Some pages before here.
Account 2 is with EURJPY, and same Set from Account 1.
Account 3 is with default set.
Broker Pepperstone, and with Razer/zero Accounts. Spread 0-0.4 and with Commission.
What I not understand is, why he open 3-5 trades at the same time ? Why not only 1 trade ? And the next open trade with more space from first trade ? For example every 50 points. This is better with Martingal. This is better for survival the account. It is not logic to open 30 trades and this in a range from example 40 points. What is, if the course go down and down ? You see your account and can do nothing. With small Budget Account you can not open more Trades, because not enough margin. You have only 2 Option, the course go up and have luck, or the course go deeper and will Crash. My mind is not ok, that he open so many Trades at same position, and not so close each Trades. It will be nice, if i have the option, how many trades i will open at same time, and reopen the next trade in points.
I dont know I you understand me, because I translate it.
  • #978
  • Apr 7, 2018 1:01pm Apr 7, 2018 1:01pm
Quoting bw-man
{quote} I use only 1 pair for 1 Account. I use Account 1 with EURUSD. M1, and the Signal 0 Set from mrgmrg. Some pages before here. Account 2 is with EURJPY, and same Set from Account 1. Account 3 is with default set. Broker Pepperstone, and with Razer/zero Accounts. Spread 0-0.4 and with Commission. What I not understand is, why he open 3-5 trades at the same time ? Why not only 1 trade ? And the next open trade with more space from first trade ? For example every 50 points. This is better with Martingal. This is better for survival the account....
Try Signal level 6 with H1. Signal level 0 is way too risky. You also have the option to limit the number of trades.
  • #979
  • Apr 7, 2018 1:12pm Apr 7, 2018 1:12pm
BT GBPUSD H1, from 2017.01.09 to date, signal level 6.0. initial lots 0.1, version 1.05:

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Not even close to crashing.
  • #980
  • Apr 7, 2018 1:20pm Apr 7, 2018 1:20pm
Quoting TraderTero
BT GBPUSD H1, from 2017.01.09 to date, signal level 6.0. initial lots 0.1, version 1.05: {image} {image} Not even close to crashing.

Thanks for sharing. Your initial deposit is way too high. Try with realistic amount of 3000 to 5000 $.

If you tried on micro account with 10k deposit then return is very low. Only 160+ bucks
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