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  • #281
  • Mar 15, 2018 3:52am Mar 15, 2018 3:52am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Many thanks Sir ... appreciated ... hopefully we may be able to then, to move to a more profitable level
Hy... i'm trying to follow Davit's system and i was quite confident with Eax Dash since the project started, but i'm just come back in and i'have to find all new updates and pin.

I'm really interested in pivot system with EAX dashboard and PIN (really thanks to OP for effort) but i've some question about it mainly regarding how to use future pivot point pin with tdi
How do you think to use it? wait for 78/100 level, and in according to tdi start entries? How is possibile with Dash take orders ad a certain distance ? Is it possible?

I know maybe we have to wait for Pin but i'd like to know your precious suggests about it.

Thanks
Regards
  • #282
  • Mar 15, 2018 4:32am Mar 15, 2018 4:32am
Quoting cescof
{quote} Hy... i'm trying to follow Davit's system and i was quite confident with Eax Dash since the project started, but i'm just come back in and i'have to find all new updates and pin. I'm really interested in pivot system with EAX dashboard and PIN (really thanks to OP for effort) but i've some question about it mainly regarding how to use future pivot point pin with tdi How do you think to use it? wait for 78/100 level, and in according to tdi start entries? How is possibile with Dash take orders ad a certain distance ? Is it possible? I know...
IMO (in my opinion) we will have to wait for the Fib/Pivot Pin to formulate the next steps.
Maybe they will include +-10% 20 day ADR range around Fib/Pivot in conjunction with TDI action ... who knows??
Also IMO we will NEVER be able to replicate Davit's results simple because he appears to and does depend so much on Fundamentals and ... as far as I know you can't code that ... unless you use some form of weighting ... if my assumption is wrong I am sure a coder will let us know.
That said, as I have said previously if we can achieve 65%+ of Davit's results and can do that on auto then that suits my retired lifestyle perfectly ...
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #283
  • Mar 15, 2018 5:07am Mar 15, 2018 5:07am
Quoting PayItForward
The above post is really step 2 of the process, we need to have a PIN for the FibPivots setup as per previous post and below. Juraia kindly provided a .mq4 which could be the starting point with the recalculations, I have looked at it and am trying to make the changes but I am the first to admit that I am not a coder so any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Fibonacci Pivot Point R4 = PP + ((High – Low) x 1.000) R3 = PP + ((High – Low) x .786) R2 = PP + ((High – Low) x .618) R1 = PP + ((High – Low) x .382) PP = (H + L + C) / 3 S1 = PP – ((High...
I am absolutely convinced of what you say. Almost all the systems I've tested lack SnR. In fact, if I have to check every signal from PIN TDI, I use the graph below. Before I start testing a system, I check the signals like this. If I see potential in it, then I leave it in automatic mode for at least a week. Then I look for where the weak spot is. So with TDI. Detects transactions at key levels of SnR and goes into big DD. I have tried the EAX Pivot and Fibo embedded, but there is something that I probably do not understand. It's not what I look at the graph. The SMA 13 and 21 indicators act as diagonal and horizontal SnRs. Very often used by traders. But they are lagging indicators and are not very effective. It can be seen from the graph that apart from the horizontal SnR, there are also diagonal ones. This is the best option for me. Probably many systems will be much more profitable. For a long time, I was wondering why nobody is coding shi_channel4 (for trade channel) _v2_Stop, shved-supply-and-demand, PivotFibo. jagzuk, somewhere explained. Indeed, these are dynamic levels and I have little idea of coding to understand the difficulty of coding. But I believe jagzuk will be able to find a solution.

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Абсолютно съм убеден в това, което казваш. Почти всички системи, които съм тествал им липсва SnR. Всъщност, ако трябва да проверявам всеки сигнал от PIN TDI, използвам графиката отдолу. Преди да започна да тествам някаква система, аз проверявам сигналите така. Ако видя потенциал в нея, тогава я оставям на автоматичен режим, поне една седмица. След това търся къде е слабото място. Така и с TDI. Открива сделки на ключови нива SnR и отива в голям DD. Пробвал съм вградените в EAX Pivot и Fibo, но нещо има, което вероятно неразбирам при тях. Не е това, което гледам на графиката. Индикаторите 13 и 21 SMA играят ролята на диагонална и хоризонтална SnR. Много често използвани от търговците. Но те са изоставащи индикатори и не са много ефективни. Вижда се от графиката, че освен хоризонтални SnR, има и диагонални. Това за мен е най-добрият вариант. Вероятно много системи ще бъдат много по-печеливши. Дълго време се чудех, защо никой не кодира shi_channel4(for trade channel)_v2_Stop, shved-supply-and-demand, PivotFibo. jagzuk, някъде обясни. Да наистина, това са динамични нива и имам малка представа от кодиране за да разбирам трудността да се кодират. Но вярвам, че jagzuk ще успее да намери решение.
  • #284
  • Mar 15, 2018 5:36am Mar 15, 2018 5:36am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} No need for any apology ... SOH = Sit On Hands (EAX feature). I am sure you will know it now, wont use acronyms in future. The other 2 Pins as stated were not used, during this testing it is simply TDI only. Those Pins I will use shortly to help define any trend during the range period and see if that improves the results. I believe that you use MA's according to your previous post MA 13 & MA 21 (not sure whether you use Simple or EMA - please confirm MA settings you use) Results for the test to date below. As you can see one has increased...
Initial settings of EAX_MovingAveragesv1.00 H1 13 SMA PIN 1 were SignalClose = true. After a week of testing, I saw that this slowed down and good deals were missed. I am now testing the settings below, there is little improvement, but I would not say that this is the solution. SignalClose = false

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The peak was at 09:44 GMT. This is before the closure of Asia. Almost every day at 10:00 - 10:30 GMT this happens. Many deals are closed and the trend is often reversed. Europe remains alone. The picture shows how much the max. It fell to 6$. If I was looking at the dashboard, I'd get them 30$. Now is waiting for the moment before NY.
It seemed to me more important to discuss SnR.

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Първоначалните настройки на EAX_MovingAveragesv1.00 H1 13 SMA PIN 1, бяха с SignalClose=true. След една седмица тест, видях че това много забавя и се пропускат добри сделки. Сега тествам с настройките по-долу, има малко подобрение, но не бих казал, че това е решението. SignalClose = false

Пикът беше в 09:44 GMT. Това е преди затварянето на Азия. Почти всеки ден в 10:00 - 10:30 GMT се случва това. Затварят се много сделки и често се обръща тренда. Европа остава сама. От снимката се вижда, колко е max. Падна до 6 $. Ако си гледах таблото, щях да ги прибера 30$. Сега се чака момента, преди NY.
Струваше ми се по-важно да обсъдим SnR.
  • #285
  • Mar 15, 2018 5:40am Mar 15, 2018 5:40am
Quoting juraia
{quote} I am absolutely convinced of what you say. Almost all the systems I've tested lack SnR. In fact, if I have to check every signal from PIN TDI, I use the graph below.
Agreed ...
Below are the results predicted to be in time range 09:00-10:00 GMT in Post 278 but my timing was wrong ... screen shots taken at GMT 10:22
The surprise for me was how Dean TDI came back to so close to Davit, the difference over the day (nearly 24 hours) as a % = next to nothing, but I really should not say that as it is over 2% difference.
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  • #286
  • Mar 15, 2018 5:45am Mar 15, 2018 5:45am
I should ask Jagzuk whether he wants my posts ... here because they are all about his PINS or on the EAX thread ... personally I would prefer here because in the EAX thread there is so much going on that any continuity will be quickly lost amongst everything else ...
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #287
  • Mar 15, 2018 6:17am Mar 15, 2018 6:17am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} IMO (in my opinion) we will have to wait for the Fib/Pivot Pin to formulate the next steps. Maybe they will include +-10% 20 day ADR range around Fib/Pivot in conjunction with TDI action ... who knows?? Also IMO we will NEVER be able to replicate Davit's results simple because he appears to and does depend so much on Fundamentals and ... as far as I know you can't code that ... unless you use some form of weighting ... if my assumption is wrong I am sure a coder will let us know. That said, as I have said previously if we can achieve 65%+...
It is very difficult to encode Fibo in PIN because it is a very important period. The moment of trend reversal in each pair is different. How many times the price will test levels 61.8 and 38.2. There is also a different level of adjustment. I think pins should be placed on each pair (ie individual pin and unfortunately constantly open graphs of pairs that are traded). See the EURUSD chart from 01.03 to change the trend, 2 weeks ago. Peak on 07.03, correction to 0.5 and 2 false breaks on 09.03 and 11 and again upward movement. You can not find the same movement in the other pairs. In my opinion, this is the right way. Probably and much more accurate.

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Много е трудно да се кодира Fibo в PIN, защото е много важен периода. Момента на обръщане на тренда при всяка двойка е различно. Колко пъти цената ще тества нивата 61.8 и 38.2. Също така е различното нивото на корекция. Според мен пина, трябва да се поставя на всяка двойка (т.е. индивидуален пин и за съжаление постоянно отворени графики на двойките, които се търгуват). Вижте на графика EURUSD от 01.03 сменя тренда, това е преди 2 седмици. Пик на 07.03, корекция до 0.5 и 2 фалшиви пробива на 09.03 и 11 и отново възходящо движение. Няма как да откриете същото движение при другите двойки. Според мен това е най-правилният начин. Вероятно и много по-точен.
  • #288
  • Mar 15, 2018 6:24am Mar 15, 2018 6:24am
Quoting PayItForward
I should ask Jagzuk whether he wants my posts ... here because they are all about his PINS or on the EAX thread ... personally I would prefer here because in the EAX thread there is so much going on that any continuity will be quickly lost amongst everything else ...
Yes, I thought so. I hope jagzuk will not mind to continue here. However, we do not discuss what the wheat harvest will be , and the pins it created for EAX.

Да и аз си го мислех това. Надявам се, че jagzuk няма да има нищо против да продължим тук. Все пак не обсъждаме каква ще е реколтата не пшеницата, а pins създадени от него за EAX.
  • #289
  • Mar 15, 2018 6:33am Mar 15, 2018 6:33am
Quoting juraia
{quote} It is very difficult to encode Fibo in PIN because it is a very important period.
The commonality from my experience is as follows:

  1. Maybe they will include +-10% 20 day ADR range around Fib/Pivot in conjunction with TDI action
  2. A pin bar that is within the same criteria and or crosses the Fib/Pivot line where the body is =<50% of the pin

or some other method ... but that is a start.
No guarantee that it is 100% effective but it appears to be very consistent in my experience.

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  • #290
  • Mar 15, 2018 6:48am Mar 15, 2018 6:48am
Follow on from Post 285.
The is probably the last post before Midnight my time GMT 15:00
Tomorrow will be TDI Dean + Davit + TDI and Direction.
Then all we need I believe will be the Fib/Pivot ... and Angleator ... maybe not but more to work with ...
If all else fails then if TDI can produce these results then I am a happy person ... KIS ... and PIF
Cheers ...
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  • #291
  • Mar 15, 2018 6:57am Mar 15, 2018 6:57am
jagzuk what about the idea from the post: 287? For individual pin. It's just my thinking. Without knowing how many options are available for encoding in a common pin for all pairs. I just guess it will be easier to encode and will reduce random signals. I believe that encoding such a pin will not only benefit the Davit system and can be tested in combination with many other pins. I myself, in the presence of PivotFibo, immediately remove 13 and 21 SMA, even TDI. Only BQR will be tested. My goal was to clear the BQR PA signals (the idea of using BQR is on Husky77).

jagzuk какво ще кажеш за идеята от пост: 287? За индивидуален пин. Това е само мое мислене. Без да знам колко възможности има за кодиране в общ pin за всички двойки. Предполагам само, че ще е по-лесно за кодиране и ще намали случайните сигнали. Аз вярвам, че кодирането на такъв pin, ще е от полза не само за ситемата на Davit и може да се тества в комбинация с много други pins. Аз самият, при наличието на PivotFibo, веднага премахвам 13 и 21 SMA, дори и TDI. Ще бъде тестван само BQR. Моята цел беше да изчистя PA сигналите на BQR (идеята за използването на BQR е на Husky77).
  • #292
  • Mar 15, 2018 8:24am Mar 15, 2018 8:24am
Here's what happens when you do not watch the dashboard and you do not get the winnings. Second bigger peak, then returned to 25-26 $ Long held there. Then a smaller peak to 29$ and that's it. On 28 - 29$, the profit goes up and you go to drink with friends.
Just compare GBPJPY to the previous post: 284

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Ето какво се случва, когато не си гледате таблото и не си приберте печалбата. Втори по-голям пик направи, след това върна до 25 - 26$ Дълго се задържа там. После по-малък пик до 29$ и сега е това. На 28 - 29$ се прибира печалбата и отиваш да пиеш с приятели.
Само сравнете GBPJPY с предишният пост: 284
  • #293
  • Mar 15, 2018 10:17am Mar 15, 2018 10:17am
Quoting PayItForward
I should ask Jagzuk whether he wants my posts ... here because they are all about his PINS or on the EAX thread ... personally I would prefer here because in the EAX thread there is so much going on that any continuity will be quickly lost amongst everything else ...
If it relates to my current PINs or about what we could do with new PINs, I am delighted for it to be discussed here. ... and thank you for asking, very polite of you
Always read Post #1
  • #294
  • Mar 15, 2018 10:40am Mar 15, 2018 10:40am
Quoting juraia
jagzuk what about the idea from the post: 287? For individual pin..
This is an interesting idea, and would certainly allow people to tune the PIN for a specific pair. Since this is going to be a tricky one, I am probably going to build it in several stages. I will share each stage for feedback.

1. Stage 1: Create the Pivot indicator code (based on Davit's levels, etc.) that will be used for the PIN, and share it with a graphical interface so that people here can test it and confirm that the pivot levels are correct. This will also include the ability to set a zone around the Pivot levels so that we can visualize where the PIN should generate signals, i.e. if a candle closes within the specified distance under resistance, this could be a sell signal. I'll probably add some different methods of creating the zone: pips, %ADR, etc. so that we can work out if we need seperate settings for each pair, or their is a formula that gives a good approximation for the zone.
2. Stage 2: Using your idea, create a one pair PIN, so we can have different settings if required.
3. Stage 3: Take what we learn from above and build a multi-pair PIN, i.e. if we need different settings for each pair these could be supplier as a comma seperated list, in the same way as we can supply a list of pairs.

What do you think?
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  • #295
  • Mar 15, 2018 10:41am Mar 15, 2018 10:41am
Quoting PayItForward
The above post is really step 2 of the process, we need to have a PIN for the FibPivots setup as per previous post and below. Juraia kindly provided a .mq4 which could be the starting point with the recalculations, I have looked at it and am trying to make the changes but I am the first to admit that I am not a coder so any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Fibonacci Pivot Point R4 = PP + ((High – Low) x 1.000) R3 = PP + ((High – Low) x .786) R2 = PP + ((High – Low) x .618) R1 = PP + ((High – Low) x .382) PP = (H + L + C) / 3 S1 = PP – ((High...
Jagz & PayItForward,

I've posted this indi in EAX as well, but I think you might have missed it. It was custom made by Voty for Davit under his instructions in his thread. It's a brilliant multi TF (DWM) Fib Pivot indi with an optional history function, as well as an option for different Fib periods on different charts. It's all based on Davit's calculations, obviously. It also has an option for Alerts for every specified level. Enjoy.

Cheers,

Lee

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  • #296
  • Mar 15, 2018 11:04am Mar 15, 2018 11:04am
Quoting jagzuk
{quote} This is an interesting idea, and would certainly allow people to tune the PIN for a specific pair. Since this is going to be a tricky one, I am probably going to build it in several stages. I will share each stage for feedback. 1. Stage 1: Create the Pivot indicator code (based on Davit's levels, etc.) that will be used for the PIN, and share it with a graphical interface so that people here can test it and confirm that the pivot levels are correct. This will also include the ability to set a zone around the Pivot levels so that we can visualize...
That sounds great

From idleness))))
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  • #297
  • Mar 15, 2018 11:53am Mar 15, 2018 11:53am
Quoting jagzuk
{quote} This is an interesting idea, and would certainly allow people to tune the PIN for a specific pair. Since this is going to be a tricky one, I am probably going to build it in several stages. I will share each stage for feedback. 1. Stage 1: Create the Pivot indicator code (based on Davit's levels, etc.) that will be used for the PIN, and share it with a graphical interface so that people here can test it and confirm that the pivot levels are correct. This will also include the ability to set a zone around the Pivot levels so that we can visualize...
Of course, as a starting point, it sounds good to me. Yes, it is probably okay to first test with pins for all pairs and then, if necessary, move on to the 2nd step. The period, as I said, is not the same for all couples. Today is the day of EUR, tomorrow USD and so on. The other thing I know is that seller9, makes his pins, for his board for each pair. Probably has reason to do so. I hope I do not offend you by mentioning it. I just remembered that. This option also has a big disadvantage. Very heavy load on the computer.

Разбира се, като за начало, добре ми звучи. Да, вероятно е добре, първо да се тества с pin за всички двойки и тогава, ако е необходимо, да преминем към 2-ра стъпка. Периода, както казах не е еднакъв за всички двойки. Днес е денят на EUR, утре на USD и т.н. Другото е знам, че seller9, прави неговите pins, за неговото табло за всяка двойка. Вероятно има причина да го прави. Надявам се, че не те обиждам с това, че го споменавам. Просто си спомних и това. Този вариант има и голям недостатък. Много голямо натоварване на компютъра.
  • #298
  • Mar 15, 2018 1:15pm Mar 15, 2018 1:15pm
Quoting rushamg
{quote} That sounds great From idleness)))) {image} {image}
The natural question is, what are the other 2 pins? And everyone else follows. They just can not see the picture. What is the start, when is the end, and how much is the end result of the day? These are the most common questions and only if you want to share your idea or tell who you are following the idea. Because if I play with hidden cards, for others it will be a big casino.

Естественият въпрос е, кои са другите 2 pins? Следват и всички останали. Просто не се виждат на снимката. В колко е старта, кога е краят и колко е крайният резултат за деня? Това са най-обикновените въпроси и само, ако искаш да споделиш твоята идея или да кажеш на кого следваш идеята. Защото, ако и аз играя със скрити карти, за другите ще е голямо казино.
  • #299
  • Mar 15, 2018 1:22pm Mar 15, 2018 1:22pm
Quoting juraia
{quote} Of course, as a starting point, it sounds good to me. Yes, it is probably okay to first test with pins for all pairs and then, if necessary, move on to the 2nd step. The period, as I said, is not the same for all couples. Today is the day of EUR, tomorrow USD and so on. The other thing I know is that seller9, makes his pins, for his board for each pair. Probably has reason to do so. I hope I do not offend you by mentioning it. I just remembered that. This option also has a big disadvantage. Very heavy load on the computer. Разбира...
Its impossible do that in MT4. You need more one server pin for have a full system. If every server pin have different setups you are multiplying by 28 everything. In MT5 no problem but you will need a master race desktop for move a system like that
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  • #300
  • Mar 15, 2018 1:33pm Mar 15, 2018 1:33pm
Quoting juraia
{quote} The natural question is, what are the other 2 pins? And everyone else follows. They just can not see the picture. What is the start, when is the end, and how much is the end result of the day? These are the most common questions and only if you want to share your idea or tell who you are following the idea. Because if I play with hidden cards, for others it will be a big casino. Естественият въпрос е, кои са...
pin 10 and 11 is not active, only the pin 12, and the screenshot I posted further
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