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  • #841
  • Mar 15, 2018 8:50am Mar 15, 2018 8:50am
Quoting Gentlepips
Hi @ Magix, 1. I have open orders that have passed the minimal profit close still running and not taking profit 2. I see pairs with lower values than the minimal profit close taking profit closing out Any ideas why please? Rgds

The values for profit are the same as the values for cost averaging...Dynamic.

In order for there to be a trigger enter or trigger exit, there is criteria that need be met.

If a single trade in place, one and only one on the pair, and it gets a trigger exit, it will exit...this value is typically just above 50% of the minimum profit close.
If more than a single trade are in place, the minimum value is the sum of the greatest and worst trade in, with a trigger.

There are 2 triggers in place for exit on the Evs and Revs...in trend and out of trend...and by out of trend, it's more specific to weakness of trend.
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  • #842
  • Mar 15, 2018 8:52am Mar 15, 2018 8:52am
Quoting juraia
{quote} mrdfx, as Magix said, has a very high probability of getting fucked up. Everything is very good, until the moment of trend change or very important news or whatever you think, which can affect the census, even for a short time. I was already testing him. But I, for example, changed two other values: {image} {image} with result {image} mrdfx, както каза Magix има много голяма вероятност...

Looking good, dude.

Real Good!

\m/
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  • #843
  • Mar 15, 2018 9:02am Mar 15, 2018 9:02am
Quoting Ezzy
Magix, the answer is: non-sober, ignorant or just plain dumb......in saying that I'm cutting down on my own consumption for months so maybe I am not the right person to answer that question. Anyway mate, initial thoughts on NN are that the EA is a diesel engine......chugs along slowly but very steady, DD is low etc, but of course you already know that. It is very tempting to wack that thing on a live account with a conservative number of pairs. Anyone else thinking about going live?
Never a bad time to throttle back a little on imbibing...if you are a more than regular consumer.
Everything in moderation including moderation, right?

Pretty much where I am as well...

With several health issues that are remedied by better consumption choices on both food and beverage, this is where I am at right now.
Throttling Back.

State of Ketosis is, seemingly now, my bodies preferred state.
Where as Beer N Pizza is my minds preferred sustenance.

The water fasts I go on are for getting back on track.

I'd encourage everybody with any almost any health-related issues to give one of them a whirl.

Unfortunately, due to circumstances, I did need to break my fast after 3 days...would have preferred to go for at least 5 days this round...there's always next time.

I did get back ketosis, really, this is a fast track protocol...so...even though I stopped short, mission accomplished.
Partially...

There are some aches and pains that are remedied with a little longer fasting, those I expect to be past over the next week...
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  • #844
  • Mar 15, 2018 10:20am Mar 15, 2018 10:20am
Is it just me or are the TE taking a beating today?

Rev v1.1 the DD is now more than dbl the profit, and now almost as high as half of the initial deposit. I also think that the 200 trade limit is hampering with the logic of the EA, with not being able to open more positions.

Rev v1.3 is not as bad, but the DD has increased by around $500 today.

Rev v1.3 on M5 has also increased DD by around $250 today.

Evolution v1.1 is doing far better then the others but its DD has also gone up $100 today.

Today is def not a good day for the EA's. Lets hope they can bounce back!
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  • #845
  • Mar 15, 2018 10:31am Mar 15, 2018 10:31am
Quoting mrdfx
Is it just me or are the TE taking a beating today? Rev v1.1 the DD is now more than dbl the profit, and now almost as high as half of the initial deposit. I also think that the 200 trade limit is hampering with the logic of the EA, with not being able to open more positions. Rev v1.3 is not as bad, but the DD has increased by around $500 today. Rev v1.3 on M5 has also increased DD by around $250 today. Evolution v1.1 is doing far better then the others but its DD has also gone up $100 today. Today is def not a good day for the EA's. Lets hope they...

Accumulation for Redistribution and Profiting...

This is where the logic truly gets tested!

I have seen trade explorers where individuals have more than 200 trades, meaning, some brokers don't have this threshold.

In this, we have 2 choices.
Limit pairs to the accounts to maintain under 200...
or
Find a broker that allows more than 200 trades.

These ideas will ultimately come to the individual user and their pain threshold as applied to Draw Downs...

If you are holding 200+ trades and are deep in the shit...will adding more draw to this allow you to sleep at night?
Real money on the table, of course...

For my Test accounts, I've changed shit up a bit.

On the Evolution account, my original that has doubled...I did increase the lot size to .02...but then...decided to drop in Evolution 1.1a instead and still keep the lot size at .02. Really...it is the better logic of the pair of these so, might well test it.

On my Evolution 1.1a account, I set it to Sumlot start...adding in incrementally.
I know the DD will increase, along with profiting...but also need to see where this logic will fail...gives me something to look at, while not working on anything else.
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  • #846
  • Mar 15, 2018 12:51pm Mar 15, 2018 12:51pm
Revolution 1.3

100% return with 14 days.

Nice one.
  • #847
  • Mar 15, 2018 12:59pm Mar 15, 2018 12:59pm
Quoting admir
Revolution 1.3 100% return with 14 days. Nice one.
That's Batshit Crazy, dude.

But I Love it!

\m/
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  • #848
  • Mar 15, 2018 2:18pm Mar 15, 2018 2:18pm
It is still too early to say what animal you have created, but for now is a man's friend. I know you do not like backtest, but before I started live this week, I literally did not sleep on the previous Saturday and Sunday to get started with the settings I've already shown. The settings of Evolution 1.1a and Revolution 1.3 are not exactly the same because of the tests. What I see so far is a big difference in favor of Revolution 1.3. If I set the Revolution 1.3 settings in Evolution 1.1a, what will it get for me? What do you think Magix? Give advice.

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With result and no open deals at the moment.
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Evolution 1.1a got out of DD -18 $ and now there are no open deals. The profit so far is almost twice smaller than Revolution 1.3.
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Все още е рано да кажа какво животно си създал, но засега е приятел на човека. Знам, че не ти харесва backtest, но преди да стартирам на живо тази седмица, буквално не спях предишните събота и неделя, за да започна с настройките, които вече показах. Не са еднакви настройките на Evolution 1.1a и на Revolution 1.3, точно заради тестовете. Това, което виждам до момента е голяма разлика в полза на Revolution 1.3. Ако сложа настройките на Revolution 1.3 в Evolution 1.1a, какво ли ще се получи на живо? Какво мислиш Magix? Дай съвет.
С резултат и няма отворени сделки в момента.
Evolution 1.1а се измъкна от DD -18$ и сега няма отворени сделки. Печалбата до момента е почти двойно по-малка от Revolution 1.3.
  • #849
  • Edited 3:41pm Mar 15, 2018 3:16pm | Edited 3:41pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} I know the DD will increase, along with profiting...but also need to see where this logic will fail...gives me something to look at, while not working on anything else.


My First time posting on your thread

I have zero coding skills and hardly enough time on my hands me plans to let er run Flat out on vps me wanna see the Longetivity and where or IF it will bust.
the zero stop loss feature I noticed is relly scary to me....

Btw Great work Mr mad scientist Magix
  • #850
  • Mar 15, 2018 4:32pm Mar 15, 2018 4:32pm
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The DD so far 26 pairs
  • #851
  • Mar 15, 2018 4:51pm Mar 15, 2018 4:51pm
Quoting juraia
What do you think Magix? Give advice.
The Sum Start lot will provide an increase in profiting...but may also increase the risk.

Default settings for the grid is 2 pips or 20, you have it set to 15 or 1.5 pips...not a lot of difference...but on Evolution 1.1a, it may get you out of more trend reversals...should...

I've only started testing the sum start lot overnight...it's doing its thing...can't really comment on it yet.

The fixed start will allow a lot less DD, but may also keep you in larger drawdowns for longer periods...but if you are in no rush, may be the safest way to go.

I've spent some time watching both of these, but still more tend towards Evolution - 1.1a...using this same code, I have a personal scalping tool that cost averages out my trades very well...Revolution...a little slower, so not as fond.

Both of these are, in my opinion, excellent tools...it's really how you find them working for you and your specific needs that gives them value.
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  • #852
  • Mar 15, 2018 4:53pm Mar 15, 2018 4:53pm
Quoting jiuce
{image} The DD so far 26 pairs
w0wsers!

26 pairs on a $700 account is more than a little risky...

26 pairs, from what we've seen, unless you have a broker with higher than 200 trade max, is a lot risky.

Cost averaging out, leaves less than 10 trades per pair...

Once positions are filled, you're kinda fucked!

But...ya know...if you're just playing around, getting some stats on these...might well giver!

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  • #853
  • Mar 16, 2018 12:07am Mar 16, 2018 12:07am
Trade explorer create for revolution 1.3 and evolution 1.1
  • #854
  • Mar 16, 2018 2:37am Mar 16, 2018 2:37am
Just pumped the lots to .03 and my TP to 3 on my Revolution N: With 3k start, 17 pairs trading @ .01 lots, it didn't even touch the margin so lets see how this works out

https://www.forexfactory.com/telac#acct.74
  • #855
  • Mar 16, 2018 12:07pm Mar 16, 2018 12:07pm
Anyone else had 0 trades places on Rev N on USDCAD and AUDUSD M1? I've had 0 entries in the last 20 hours.
I've had several entries on other pairs, just not those.

So far so good btw. No trade explorer yet as I'm still fiddling with charts/pairs/terminals etc. Very promising.
  • #856
  • Mar 16, 2018 1:22pm Mar 16, 2018 1:22pm
Quoting jamco388
Trade explorer create for revolution 1.3 and evolution 1.1
Added to post 1.

\m/

Thanks
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  • #857
  • Mar 16, 2018 1:23pm Mar 16, 2018 1:23pm
Quoting Telac
Just pumped the lots to .03 and my TP to 3 on my Revolution N: With 3k start, 17 pairs trading @ .01 lots, it didn't even touch the margin so lets see how this works out https://www.forexfactory.com/telac#acct.74
Indeed...this one seems to be able to hold back the waters fairly well...

So far, all of the NN accounts seem to be able to play in larger grounds or on smaller accounts.
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  • #858
  • Mar 16, 2018 1:25pm Mar 16, 2018 1:25pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Added to post 1. \m/ Thanks
revolution 1.3 result not too good on me
  • #859
  • Mar 16, 2018 1:26pm Mar 16, 2018 1:26pm
Quoting johnsmith2nd
Anyone else had 0 trades places on Rev N on USDCAD and AUDUSD M1? I've had 0 entries in the last 20 hours. I've had several entries on other pairs, just not those. So far so good btw. No trade explorer yet as I'm still fiddling with charts/pairs/terminals etc. Very promising.

Both of these are still moving fairly strong In-Trend...it's only when the EA starts to detect weakness that it will work to playing towards its pivotal point.

Use the others who have posted Test Accounts on Post 1 for reference.

It does help if you've started at or around the same time...but even late to the game, these should still give a little perspective of what is in trend and where the choppy market is.
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  • #860
  • Mar 16, 2018 1:28pm Mar 16, 2018 1:28pm
Quoting jamco388
{quote} revolution 1.3 result not too good on me
Rev 1.3 has a bit of an issue with stronger trends...wasn't a true-ish counter trigger as much as a continuation of trend...

This could be addressed to make it more like Evolution...but in all honesty, I'm still not sure which the better logic actually is.

Still needs some time.
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