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Lost Sock Evolution - Automated
- #682
- Mar 8, 2018 9:28am Mar 8, 2018 9:28am
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Trader | 3,885 Posts
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- #683
- Mar 8, 2018 10:00am Mar 8, 2018 10:00am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
I've been looking deeper into the TE's, and seeing what is causing the big DD in both Rev 1.1 and Rev 1.3 tests. I have seen that most of the CHF and JPY pair are holding the most DD. EURCHF especially is not playing nice at all and is the big culprit, including most of the JPY pairs. It's a similar story with my other 2 TE's although not as bad. Evolution is still soldiering on nicely, and is still my favorite version so far performance wise. V1.3 on M5 is also still carrying on churning in pips. I'm thinking how Evolution would fair unleashed...
Looks like EURCHF went on a bit of a run...broke out of it's standard range...this is one of those "Exceptional" charts...
That being said...it's always darkest before the light...
The JPY pairs...nearing longer range support...if I am correct, any bearish action on these will be severely reprimanded over the up and coming weeks...but this too is just some speculation...
I'm still toggling charts on different timeframes to not just have a tool that will work on a longer timeframe, but will actually make sense to the logic...works in progress...
Much as I've always stated that the market is Fractal...some patterns are similar to those observed in all timeframes, whilst others...not so much.
Meaning?
Applying the same logic from an M1 to an M5 may work out...do this on an M15-H4 and we are in a whole new ballgame. The patterns may still exist, but the ranges may not be as conducive to the same grid range and for that matter, testing and margin requirements...
ie - the 2 things we can never have enough of...time and money!
From the looks of the above chart, the NoNedge version may have played out differently...but unless I drilled down, wouldn't actually be able to 100% confirm.
For the longer TFs - the NoNedge will not work...it's very specific to trend and it's homeostatic identifier...still trying to see the fractals on longer TFs, but looking at this individual case, not sure that I have anything...
Supply and Demand is the foundation of trading. This, I've been able to somewhat able to code in...the current logic is...if we stay in trend and the trend changes, we should be able to grid out. The Homeostatic logic of NN, though may not see as much profit in the overall direction, looks for specific areas to accumulate for later distribution.
It's a pretty complex game, we play...
I've been at this a decade now...traded professional...managed accounts...and I'm still learning.
But...Nobody ever accused me of being that smart.
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- #684
- Mar 8, 2018 12:12pm Mar 8, 2018 12:12pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
lol.
Grid me the Fuck OUT!
This is actually a decent little tool, for trend and counter-trend trading.
Dropped a few positions on 4 charts and went for a shit, shave n shower - cooked me some breakfast.
Live Account - Shitz n Gigglez...
Now...it should be noted that I was fairly confident in these positions, this was just a short logic test.
That being said, I did find one coding issue to resolve.
Love this fucking thing already, though...
Grid me the Fuck OUT!
This is actually a decent little tool, for trend and counter-trend trading.
Dropped a few positions on 4 charts and went for a shit, shave n shower - cooked me some breakfast.
Live Account - Shitz n Gigglez...
Now...it should be noted that I was fairly confident in these positions, this was just a short logic test.
That being said, I did find one coding issue to resolve.
Love this fucking thing already, though...
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- #685
- Mar 8, 2018 12:32pm Mar 8, 2018 12:32pm
Magix,
Prophecy no nedge... looks really good.. guess it's still under testing, I suppose.. what's the difference in logic compared to others? what do you think of having a $ amount stop loss option .. ? cut the loss at some point, so by the month end it could be BE or positive, and by the year end we can smile..
Prophecy no nedge... looks really good.. guess it's still under testing, I suppose.. what's the difference in logic compared to others? what do you think of having a $ amount stop loss option .. ? cut the loss at some point, so by the month end it could be BE or positive, and by the year end we can smile..
- #686
- Mar 8, 2018 12:51pm Mar 8, 2018 12:51pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Magix, Prophecy no nedge... looks really good.. guess it's still under testing, I suppose.. what's the difference in logic compared to others? what do you think of having a $ amount stop loss option .. ? cut the loss at some point, so by the month end it could be BE or positive, and by the year end we can smile..
There were some parts of the trade logic that I didn't like in Prophecy, so on Monday...while it was flat on trades, I worked on a couple of ideas and corrections and relaunched.
Hasn't been enough range for this to have been fully tested and even for what has, there still remains the idea of having a Counter Trend Trigger in place...just to give this fucker a heartbeat whilst waiting for a Trend Trigger to come.
Here's an idea of the Counter Trigger...
All trades in Green - Cycled Trend Trades.
The one in Red - that's where the counter trigger kicked in.
I wanna see how this works after this week, it might be something that HAS to GO to just keep the even keel...NFP Week - This is the week where all grid traders look magical...I don't want this to be my False Positive.
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- #687
- Mar 8, 2018 12:56pm Mar 8, 2018 12:56pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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- #688
- Mar 8, 2018 12:58pm Mar 8, 2018 12:58pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
BUT!
An interesting Note about the Newly written code for Prophecy NN...
The Gridding logic from it is fundamentally what is being used for the Grid Me Out EA.
I've played with 3 versions...it still requires a little polishing...but this should give the average user the ability to keep profitable while maybe not being that great at trading.
We're changing the playing field!!
An interesting Note about the Newly written code for Prophecy NN...
The Gridding logic from it is fundamentally what is being used for the Grid Me Out EA.
I've played with 3 versions...it still requires a little polishing...but this should give the average user the ability to keep profitable while maybe not being that great at trading.
We're changing the playing field!!
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- #689
- Mar 8, 2018 1:00pm Mar 8, 2018 1:00pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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- #690
- Mar 8, 2018 1:12pm Mar 8, 2018 1:12pm
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Trader | 3,885 Posts
So Magix correct me if I'm wrong as I'm trying to keep up with all the new things, new ideas, and tests going on lol.
Evolution -> Revolution v1.1 -> Revolution v1.3 -> Revolution NN -> Prophesy -> Prophesy NN -> GMO -> ......
Is that correct?
Evolution -> Revolution v1.1 -> Revolution v1.3 -> Revolution NN -> Prophesy -> Prophesy NN -> GMO -> ......
Is that correct?
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- #691
- Mar 8, 2018 1:18pm Mar 8, 2018 1:18pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
So Magix correct me if I'm wrong as I'm trying to keep up with all the new things, new ideas, and tests going on lol. Evolution -> Revolution v1.1 -> Revolution v1.3 -> Revolution NN -> Prophesy -> Prophesy NN -> GMO -> ...... Is that correct?
lol
You are correct...those are the Evolutionary Steps of Evolution...unless we count TDA ->Previous release as Genesis...if not...it goes back to Allin->like 5 or 6 years ago.
lol
Just some 3000+ steps in between.
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- #692
- Mar 8, 2018 1:40pm Mar 8, 2018 1:40pm
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- #693
- Mar 8, 2018 2:06pm Mar 8, 2018 2:06pm
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- #694
- Mar 8, 2018 2:30pm Mar 8, 2018 2:30pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Looks like it could start to get a little boring for Revolution NN...
Chop week...not sure anything will make it back to it's liking though...
Great Recovery...very impressed with the overall performance of the Homeostatic Directional trading...w0w.
2 weeks in, 19 pairs in trade and up $450...very nice!
Chop week...not sure anything will make it back to it's liking though...
Great Recovery...very impressed with the overall performance of the Homeostatic Directional trading...w0w.
2 weeks in, 19 pairs in trade and up $450...very nice!
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- #695
- Mar 8, 2018 2:40pm Mar 8, 2018 2:40pm
- Joined Jan 2015 | Status: Trader | 1,005 Posts | Online Now
This is RaverN on 5 pairs (on my TE), demo.
Tao days of trading, DD was......-10$, at best.
Jeez, M. what the hell?! Where's my DD?! I demand you bring my DD back!!!!!
Raver1.3 on mixed demo and on my live account are doing rather well, DD is huge in comparison, I've seen it go as much as 80$ on only one pair.
But still, profit is profit, you just need to have enough breathing balance to get it.
Tao days of trading, DD was......-10$, at best.
Jeez, M. what the hell?! Where's my DD?! I demand you bring my DD back!!!!!
Raver1.3 on mixed demo and on my live account are doing rather well, DD is huge in comparison, I've seen it go as much as 80$ on only one pair.
But still, profit is profit, you just need to have enough breathing balance to get it.
- #696
- Mar 8, 2018 3:10pm Mar 8, 2018 3:10pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
This is RaverN on 5 pairs (on my TE), demo. Tao days of trading, DD was......-10$, at best. Jeez, M. what the hell?! Where's my DD?! I demand you bring my DD back!!!!!
There is, in theory, a bit of Logic Issue that I do need to work out in the NN Strategy that may help further reduce the DD...we've only seen a couple of weeks in action, but at the same time, this little flaw could see it sell into support and buy into resistance.
May not be as bad as Evolution for tops n bottoms, but until we see a true range with a little more flight under its wings, we won't know for sure.
Fix for the logic...
Dunno...
As it is still theoretical and hasn't really happened yet, going to be hard to fully wrap my head around.
Other side of the coin...this could be what makes it a little more profitable overall...
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- #698
- Mar 8, 2018 3:19pm Mar 8, 2018 3:19pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
My testing with rev 1.3 is going - I think very well -- I am running this unattended -- and with EU only- I know that 0.1 lot is pushing it with a 2k starting capital but I like to see what this can do in the worst case stress test. The EA dug a pretty good hole for itself with the first few days of the week and it recovered all on its own -- I was not sure it would make it, but it did. Tomorrow will be very interesting to see how it plays out for NFP. Magix - I will be running the EA unattended for the next 3-4 weeks for I will be out of town for...
With a recommended starting of $200 per trade pair at a .01 lot size...$2k for .1 is about where ya need to be.
That being said...I still prefer a cushion on the account and by working with multiple pairs and a bit more padding, it does stand a better chance of success.
Working with multiple pairs typically ensures that as one is holding a Draw Down...the other is trading for profit.
Using Evolution as an example...if we were just on EURAUD...it would have stopped trading and possibly margined out as a sole trader. Given the other pairs performing, it keeps on a regular path of $50/gains per trading day.
Revolution is a little different in logic for triggering, but again, with such short testing periods, it's hard for me to know which is the better strategy - Ev or Rev...
As this is just a Test Account...fuck it!
Let er run!
Pass or fail, we will have a better understanding in a month from now, right?
Safe Journey, brother!
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- #699
- Mar 8, 2018 3:24pm Mar 8, 2018 3:24pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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- #700
- Mar 8, 2018 6:55pm Mar 8, 2018 6:55pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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