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  • #15,561
  • Mar 6, 2018 9:57am Mar 6, 2018 9:57am
Quoting digger1
{quote},, your 6 pips late lol,if your gonna satisfy your curiosity do it from top of range,,,scalping top of range ,longer term hold top of range ,scalping an extra 6 pips is a lot ,,longer term may mean the difference between getting stopped or not getting stopped ,,, me Im waiting to see if it gets to 2430 by eod ,next pop if it comes remainder of longs will be closed regardless then Ill see what happens
Maybe you are right but i trade percents not pips so a 20 loss or a 14 pip loss is the same % to me. Doesn't matter.
  • #15,562
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:02am Mar 6, 2018 10:02am
Quoting Neil0163
ive said this before, smart money sells into buying pressure and smart money buys into selling pressure. Why would GS give out there trading idea for us all to jump on the train? They cant move there large positions without us retail traders and small hedge funds providing liquidity. Please read these comments ATA I'm tempted to shoot the messenger for this bit of information lol I wont be buying. SWAM-B Sell while advising muppets to buy SWAM-B lol Don't be a muppet. {image}
Watching what Goldman Sachs does is not Muppetry.. imho the most solid source..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #15,563
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:06am Mar 6, 2018 10:06am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
Watching Goldman Sachs.....imho the most solid source..
thanks!....got any other trust worthy sources you would like to share?
  • #15,564
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:07am Mar 6, 2018 10:07am
Quoting Stillearnin
{quote} Maybe you are right but i trade percents not pips so a 20 loss or a 14 pip loss is the same % to me. Doesn't matter.
I hear ya man ,,,,the projected price tgts usually get used for support or resistance depending on which way its going at least once ,,,also W R1 is in there as support atm and of course the 4 hour average ,, you can see whats happening
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  • #15,565
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:09am Mar 6, 2018 10:09am
Quoting digger1
{quote} I hear ya man ,,,,the projected price tgts usually get used for support or resistance depending on which way its going at least once ,,,also W R1 is in there as support atm and of course the 4 hour average ,, you can see whats happening {image}
Apparently not. Stopped out.
  • #15,566
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:14am Mar 6, 2018 10:14am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} Watching what Goldman Sachs does is not Muppetry.. imho the most solid source.. Stay Green
Muppetry I like that word also haha
  • #15,567
  • Edited 10:29am Mar 6, 2018 10:16am | Edited 10:29am
Quoting Stillearnin
{quote} Apparently not. Stopped out.
Lol,,, from the 4 hour average it was a pop worth 28 pips to me ,Id rather everybody here made that ,from that 5 min 200sma its been an 80 pip ride now today ,,,,,,,,,, from where it got above the 5 min 200 its been 226 pips since last Friday. Why fight it,,,, ride the biioocth till it fails somewhere. A five min chart and 2 averages proves smarter than 95 % of retail traders,, sorry edit ,,,,,Monday there was 2 good short trades from it which made the pattern that went to tgt and has bounced of tgt level once
  • #15,568
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:18am Mar 6, 2018 10:18am
Is it only me here that layers in positions? If you have a short play why not layer them in and widen stops..saves death of a thousand cuts which is what seems to be happening in here right now
  • #15,569
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:25am Mar 6, 2018 10:25am
  •  jmmn
  • | Joined Nov 2015 | Status: Learning while making money... | 647 Posts
Quoting Neil0163
ive said this before, smart money sells into buying pressure and smart money buys into selling pressure. Why would GS give out there trading idea for us all to jump on the train? They cant move there large positions without us retail traders and small hedge funds providing liquidity. Please read these comments ATA I'm tempted to shoot the messenger for this bit of information lol I wont be buying. SWAM-B Sell while advising muppets to buy SWAM-B lol Don't be a muppet. {image}
So, you are saying that we should be selling.... Right?
  • #15,570
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:31am Mar 6, 2018 10:31am
Quoting jmmn
{quote} So, you are saying that we should be selling.... Right?
Pretty much, obviously I could be completely wrong but that's what makes sense to me.
Why would investment banks need help from retail traders and hedge funds too boost there longs it make no sense. They have large orders ready to fill but they cant move or conduct those orders without someone willing to buy (if they want to sell) how would they do this simple tell people they are buying the retail trader thinks oh brill is GS is buying I'm buying that way I trade with Banks nope there just using you to trigger there sells.

There is tons of information about this on the net and youtube, ive been short before I had this article and ill continue to sell rallies my last chance before my bias changes is the the 78.6 fib at the 1.246 area if this is taken out then ill expect price to push higher and ill look for buys until then I'm bearish.
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  • #15,571
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:38am Mar 6, 2018 10:38am
Quoting jusstin911
{quote} and that is one useless post above.. even sad from an old member
Still useless post after 8 hours and +70 pips up?

I use this thread sometimes as counter indicator. People here (and globally on FF) are wrong most of the time which shouldn't surprise anyone as they trade what they think instead of trading what they see. Luckily, there are still some great traders around.
  • #15,572
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:40am Mar 6, 2018 10:40am
Quoting Neil0163
{quote} Pretty much, obviously I could be completely wrong but that's what makes sense to me. Why would investment banks need help from retail traders and hedge funds too boost there longs it make no sense. They have large orders ready to fill but they cant move or conduct those orders without someone willing to buy (if they want to sell) how would they do this simple tell people they are buying the retail trader thinks oh brill is GS is buying I'm buying that way I trade with Banks nope there just using you to trigger there sells. There is tons...
Blimey, another conspiracy theorist - nice to meet you. been saying pretty much the same thing since Sunday open myself.

Thing is you've got to know where, when and how to size your trades to survive this journey..I've been short EU since December, have made good returns on it yet its been trending up and here we are heading back towards the highs...Only ways of trading this way is with a very, very strong money management style.
  • #15,573
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:44am Mar 6, 2018 10:44am
Quoting FXClarity
{quote} Blimey, another conspiracy theorist - nice to meet you. been saying pretty much the same thing since Sunday open myself. Thing is you've got to know where, when and how to size your trades to survive this journey..I've been short EU since December, have made good returns on it yet its been trending up and here we are heading back towards the highs...Only ways of trading this way is with a very, very strong money management style.
Nice too meet you too!
I found a cracking image someone drew up on this like a cartoon picture it was brilliant I found it on here somewhere ill have to see if I can find it again it puts things into perspective.

This effects long term traders who trade daily and 4 hours like myself, I look for the big moves I'm cant be dealing with scalping in and out I cant do it lol, if you scalp in and out then market manipulation wont really effect you unless you get caught up at the reversal point.
  • #15,574
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:48am Mar 6, 2018 10:48am
Quoting FXClarity
Is it only me here that layers in positions? If you have a short play why not layer them in and widen stops..saves death of a thousand cuts which is what seems to be happening in here right now
I say better to get one cut then to lose the entire account if by any chance this gets to 1.2600 maybe even farther. I've never seen one trader that can keep his account trading without stop loss, if you are that one trader well then, i salute you! I knew there had to be an exception eventually!
  • #15,575
  • Mar 6, 2018 10:58am Mar 6, 2018 10:58am
Quoting Stillearnin
{quote} I say better to get one cut then to lose the entire account if by any chance this gets to 1.2600 maybe even farther. I've never seen one trader that can keep his account trading without stop loss, if you are that one trader well then, i salute you! I knew there had to be an exception eventually!
Here is something that may surprise you..I know only a few traders who do this year on year successfully and all of them trade with an account at risk% stop rather than a 'hard stop like 20 pips'.

And if EU hits 1.2600 and someone blew their account shorting it here at 1.2413 - they are using to much leverage.
  • #15,576
  • Mar 6, 2018 11:00am Mar 6, 2018 11:00am
Quoting Laditori
{quote} thanks!....got any other trust worthy sources you would like to share?
Of course.. my own charts.. even better than Goldman Sachs.. enjoy..

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  • #15,577
  • Mar 6, 2018 11:02am Mar 6, 2018 11:02am
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  • #15,578
  • Mar 6, 2018 11:02am Mar 6, 2018 11:02am
Quoting Neil0163
{quote} Nice too meet you too! I found a cracking image someone drew up on this like a cartoon picture it was brilliant I found it on here somewhere ill have to see if I can find it again it puts things into perspective. This effects long term traders who trade daily and 4 hours like myself, I look for the big moves I'm cant be dealing with scalping in and out I cant do it lol, if you scalp in and out then market manipulation wont really effect you unless you get caught up at the reversal point.
Yep. With you - Longer time frames lead the charge for me too and the realty is I've yet to meet a successful retail spot fx scalper who has survived long term..Truly successful scalpers reside in prop firms, trading arcades and banks..Not at home with a spotFX broker...

Okay, I'm signing off before the flames start flying at me from all directions.

Wish you all well
  • #15,579
  • Mar 6, 2018 11:11am Mar 6, 2018 11:11am
Quoting FXClarity
{quote} Yep. With you - Longer time frames lead the charge for me too and the realty is I've yet to meet a successful retail spot fx scalper who has survived long term..Truly successful scalpers reside in prop firms, trading arcades and banks..Not at home with a spotFX broker... Okay, I'm signing off before the flames start flying at me from all directions. Wish you all well
No flames, everyone is entitled to their view. I hope what i said doesn't happen to you, i truly do!
  • #15,580
  • Edited 11:59am Mar 6, 2018 11:48am | Edited 11:59am
Quoting Stillearnin
{quote} No flames, everyone is entitled to their view. I hope what i said doesn't happen to you, i truly do!
Like real estate is location location location ,trading is level level level ,,,,your 20 pip stop would still have you in ,and you would have had time to move stp to break even or a little profit ,,much better than a loss
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