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Lost Sock Evolution - Automated
- #642
- Mar 2, 2018 5:02pm Mar 2, 2018 5:02pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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- #643
- Mar 2, 2018 5:09pm Mar 2, 2018 5:09pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Evolution...
In spite of the market Exodus, some bounces, some just fucking Slaughter Territory for an OBOS filter...still managed to keep pace...
Approx $50/day, gross gains.
As forecasted, by Tuesday of next week - this motherfucker should have doubled.
Definitely hit the fucking skids on DD this week, but...well...it's only a loss when you close the trades, right?
Closing the week, still not hitting the Max Trades in Hold Threshold of 200 - Evolution is only bagging 117 - Magic 7 pairs...still some room to move!
Run little motherfucker...RUN!
In spite of the market Exodus, some bounces, some just fucking Slaughter Territory for an OBOS filter...still managed to keep pace...
Approx $50/day, gross gains.
As forecasted, by Tuesday of next week - this motherfucker should have doubled.
Definitely hit the fucking skids on DD this week, but...well...it's only a loss when you close the trades, right?
Closing the week, still not hitting the Max Trades in Hold Threshold of 200 - Evolution is only bagging 117 - Magic 7 pairs...still some room to move!
Run little motherfucker...RUN!
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- #644
- Mar 2, 2018 6:40pm Mar 2, 2018 6:40pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Not a terrible week for My Martingale trader either!
This one I posted...
It never got any attention...
Can you find it now?
:|
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- #646
- Mar 2, 2018 8:58pm Mar 2, 2018 8:58pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
{quote} That one looks good bro.. which EA you are running on that account?
That's been my mainstay since September of last year.
Simple...effective...and the logic and Triggering from Evolution, with the increment add.
It's fucking killer, brother!
Different than what is current to Evolution, but if one was careful - much the same as I am selective in running this motherfucker - a good buck can be churned.
Now that I've got the NN idea - I actually think I can make it a little safer....there has been some testy times.
$2k min...
And Money in the bank!
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- #650
- Mar 6, 2018 12:12am Mar 6, 2018 12:12am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
{quote} Hi Magix How are you? Hope your live accounts are doing better than my demo... A little update on my same 8 pairs/lot..news aren't great... My DD is now in the abyss...from 826$ to 3400$...with 129 opened trade and gain stalling (Technical Margin used 5000$... at .01 lot...Total: 8400$ in use for 262$ net gain...) Ratio: 31/1...With those numbers, l know now l will never go live with évolution or any EA's yet...as long as a long trend could kill them all...So far, there is no exeption... My post here isn't citicizing just realistic on what...
Hey Ben,
I am okay with criticism...all good by me, dude.
I am obviously the longest tester, a week longer than any other, for Evolution and still have my Demo running. In 8 weeks, we are approaching 100% gross gains, but sadly have seen a Draw Down of Close to $2000 on an account that started with $2000...yep...I'd definitely be shitting bricks if this was my cash on the line, but there is some other information to consider with Evolution...
1. It was the First Adaptation from TDA - with a quicker close in profit trades...ultimately growing the account on the same 7 pairs almost 2x as fast as it's predecessor.
2. The Profit Factor of Evolution is 2.07, has an annualized return - Pace - of 697.4% per year and boasts an 83.1% win rate...Coming into 8 weeks of testing.
3. Grid Trading Must afford a little account flex, this is the nature of Grid-Based Trading.
Not sure what pairs you were testing on nor what circumstances you ran into to get that high of a DD on your account...certainly not what I've seen with anybody listed on post 1, using Default Settings.
Moving on...
There are a couple of testers working with Evolution and Revolution on Longer Timeframes, M5, M15...
Check out mrdfx - Revolution 1.3 - M5, 1 week in trading ->HERE
This actually looks pretty fecking decent...and if you've watched along with him since release, you can see that this has maintained a Fairly Reasonable Draw for the Number of Pairs in tow and for gains it has made...sure...it's holding some basket of Losers, but again, remember that this and it's Early Version, plus the Rev 1.3 still ticks at 83% positive closing. Will it do the same on an M5, or M15 Timeframe?? Definitely worth investigating...
I've noticed a couple of hiccups from analyzing trades in both Revolution, NN and Prophecy that I am working on correcting. Until these actually function in market, I can't tell if there are any logistical errors...so, have to correct and watch them run for a while.
Prophecy, HERE, just letting it run its course right now...still haven't had a chance to go back and make changes, but will throughout this week.
Prophecy NN, HERE, actually closed out ALL TRADES today and then...I realized that given its current pairs and the market...it probably wouldn't have traded for the rest of the week...Now, that's fine and all, but not much fun at all! Plus...there were a couple of issues in the original logic that needed sorting, so, I rewrote it to be a little more aggressive in some aspects and a lot more conservative in others. Will watch n see how it plays out, only got around to relaunching it after NY Close today.
What you test is completely up to you. Given the current corrections, I need to make, not going to release anything else right now.
Maybe follow a couple of others in their longer timeframes and pair selection....see if this helps out any.
or...
Go back and analyze some trades...where'd they go right? Where'd they go wrong?? And drop down an idea or 2...the current version Revolution NN - HERE - has seen $400 worth of Draw, but it is Trading 19 pairs on an M1 chart...the idea for this came from a Shit Poster...
Criticism is good!
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- #651
- Mar 6, 2018 8:46am Mar 6, 2018 8:46am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Welp...
Looking good!
As surmised, a little slower growth with the NN logic due to only looking to accumulate the immediate against the long, playing towards a homeostatic median.
Still a few tweaks on this, but if this is the worst I see, max DD - $400 trading 19 pairs gridded, and taking at current pace, looks to double the account every 3 months...that's pretty fecking decent.
Looking good!
As surmised, a little slower growth with the NN logic due to only looking to accumulate the immediate against the long, playing towards a homeostatic median.
Still a few tweaks on this, but if this is the worst I see, max DD - $400 trading 19 pairs gridded, and taking at current pace, looks to double the account every 3 months...that's pretty fecking decent.
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- #654
- Mar 6, 2018 9:14am Mar 6, 2018 9:14am
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Trader | 3,881 Posts
Things are moving steadily along with all the TE's. 
I will note a personal observation between Evo, Rev 1.1, and Rev 1.3. Evolution is still performing really well considering, and IMO its doing better than Rev 1.1, and Rev 1.3. Its holding down the DD better, and churning more pips for only trading half the amount of pairs.
Evolution is only trading 10 pairs, and both Revolution tests are running on 20, but if you look at the DD, and profit between the 3 them, Evolution is the winner winner chicken dinner. I'm not sure what exactly it is, but the changes you made are not making things a whole lot better from my observation. Not criticizing negatively, but that is what is happening with my tests.
Now one test I do want to mention is the Rev 1.3 on M5. This thing is doing really well! Trading on 10 charts it pulling in decent amount of profit, and it's keeping the DD in a healthy range. It opens fewer orders, but is still pulling in those pips! It is still early days so I will keep observing it and see after the first month, if it can maintain these stats then this will have potential on a live account I think.
Well that's my little update for now, I'll keep an eye out, and I look forward to the future developments Magix!
I will note a personal observation between Evo, Rev 1.1, and Rev 1.3. Evolution is still performing really well considering, and IMO its doing better than Rev 1.1, and Rev 1.3. Its holding down the DD better, and churning more pips for only trading half the amount of pairs.
Evolution is only trading 10 pairs, and both Revolution tests are running on 20, but if you look at the DD, and profit between the 3 them, Evolution is the winner winner chicken dinner. I'm not sure what exactly it is, but the changes you made are not making things a whole lot better from my observation. Not criticizing negatively, but that is what is happening with my tests.
Now one test I do want to mention is the Rev 1.3 on M5. This thing is doing really well! Trading on 10 charts it pulling in decent amount of profit, and it's keeping the DD in a healthy range. It opens fewer orders, but is still pulling in those pips! It is still early days so I will keep observing it and see after the first month, if it can maintain these stats then this will have potential on a live account I think.
Well that's my little update for now, I'll keep an eye out, and I look forward to the future developments Magix!
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- #655
- Mar 6, 2018 10:11am Mar 6, 2018 10:11am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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- #656
- Mar 6, 2018 10:25am Mar 6, 2018 10:25am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Evolution is only trading 10 pairs, and both Revolution tests are running on 20, but if you look at the DD, and profit between the 3 them, Evolution is the winner winner chicken dinner. I'm not sure what exactly it is, but the changes you made are not making things a whole lot better from my observation. Not criticizing negatively, but that is what is happening with my tests.
We have a couple of cases here of where More is Less and Less is More...
Evolution isn't as refined and is a lot more aggressive than Revolution...this is the More is Less part...
One of the concerns with Gridding is that more aggressive in trend can prove to cost average out more effectively and was one of the concerns I had with Revolution as a whole. If it doesn't take as many positions, will it be as effective? Had to be tested and I think that there is really nothing wrong with the logic with exception of time it takes to be in market...
Revolution trading on 2x the amount of pairs...this is the More is Less...
Given that the logic has worked well on my Magic 7, doesn't necessarily mean that it will be as effective on all pairs, metals or cryptos.
Each pair has its own independent personality and my Magic 7 seem to play best, as has been mentioned...but that doesn't mean we need to limit the pool to these players...checking them out over a longer course could prove that there are more and maybe even better players that can knock out one or more of my Magic 7.
Evolving the idea from Ev to Rev to NN...these are all ideas implemented to reduce draw on the account, possible allowing folk with more limited risk thresholds to still have a little fun...possibly to allow those with larger accounts to churn a lot faster than on dimes...
So far...NN is my favorite, but with P2NN in test now...it combines all of the best of Evolution, Revolution, No Nedge and even has a faster counter for quick market hits. Wrote this in wrong, so didn't see it in effect this morning, but should be good from here out. As it is still playing towards a homeostatic median, it may add some risk, but should still be effective for a couple of percent per month without being a HUGE drain on resources and funds.
Will see how it plays out.
Next idea...to keep the aggression of Evolution is to possibly add in the NN logic to keep it from amassing the draws we have seen on thread versions...might just do this...shits n giggles n all!
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- #658
- Mar 6, 2018 6:56pm Mar 6, 2018 6:56pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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- #659
- Mar 6, 2018 7:50pm Mar 6, 2018 7:50pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Welp...
Was off by a few hours and $12 of the Gross Gains on the Account were made up by swap fees, but here we are!
Evolution 100% over initial investment, less than 2 full months of trading...Gross Gains...floating a lot in the shitter, but 100% is 100%
lol
EURAUD...not been kind!
That being said...worth a wait for a Freebie EA...set at default, no?
Was off by a few hours and $12 of the Gross Gains on the Account were made up by swap fees, but here we are!
Evolution 100% over initial investment, less than 2 full months of trading...Gross Gains...floating a lot in the shitter, but 100% is 100%
lol
EURAUD...not been kind!
That being said...worth a wait for a Freebie EA...set at default, no?
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
Hey Magix.
Long time no talk
I'm testing rev13. but the test is not long enough to have a result to display.
Here's a snapshot of what is currently doing, http://prntscr.com/inzkoq
I will have the settings available for users once this bad boy moves a bit and starts showing some profits.
I do not use the base settings and have it running on the pairs below.
Thanks for another system and hope u doing well.
Matraguna.
Long time no talk
I'm testing rev13. but the test is not long enough to have a result to display.
Here's a snapshot of what is currently doing, http://prntscr.com/inzkoq
I will have the settings available for users once this bad boy moves a bit and starts showing some profits.
I do not use the base settings and have it running on the pairs below.
Thanks for another system and hope u doing well.
Matraguna.