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  • #601
  • Feb 27, 2018 10:41am Feb 27, 2018 10:41am
Hi all,

Things seem to go well. Rev 1.1 is over water now and still earning Money every day.
Check the TE running since 19.02.2018. Everything Default and on M1 TF.

To collect some more and "easytocompare" data I set up three new TE today.

First on is running LSR 1.1 - You find it HERE
Second one is running LSR 1.3 - You find it HERE
and the third one is running LSR NN- You find it HERE

All of them started with 3.000 € and use the same 13 pairs on TF M1.
They are running on the same Broker and VPS. Hope this helps to compare the versions.

I tried to start them in the same time, maybe I lost some seconds.

As Long as I have the space on my VPS I will leave the "old" one running.
  • #602
  • Feb 27, 2018 10:52am Feb 27, 2018 10:52am
Quoting Bullilulli
Hi all, Things seem to go well. Rev 1.1 is over water now and still earning Money every day. Check the TE running since 19.02.2018. Everything Default and on M1 TF. To collect some more and "easytocompare" data I set up three new TE today. First on is running LSR 1.1 - You find it HERE Second one is running LSR 1.3 - You find it HERE and the third one is running LSR...
All accounts now listed on Post 1.

Thanks, dude!!
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  • #603
  • Feb 27, 2018 1:07pm Feb 27, 2018 1:07pm
I've been taking a deeper look at the 3 TE I have running, Evolution, Rev 1.1, and Rev 1.3.

What I find interesting is that Evolution is still kicking ass. It's just over 2 weeks in, and already 50% growth on the account, and with relatively normal DD for running 6 pairs. It's taken more trades than Revolution 1.1 and v1.3, but its been holding down the DD pretty well considering.

Rev 1.1 and Rev 1.3 have been also been doing really well. The DD has been quite a bit higher on v1.1, but its recovered some of it, and is looking good. It's much less aggressive in opening orders than Evolution, and is still doing well for running 20 pairs. v1.3 is too early to say too much, but its also kicking some ass in the short amount of time.

It will be good to see the final results of the 3 versions after 1 month of 24/5 trading and then compare.
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  • #604
  • Feb 27, 2018 1:24pm Feb 27, 2018 1:24pm
Quoting mrdfx
I've been taking a deeper look at the 3 TE I have running, Evolution, Rev 1.1, and Rev 1.3. What I find interesting is that Evolution is still kicking ass. It's just over 2 weeks in, and already 50% growth on the account, and with relatively normal DD for running 6 pairs. It's taken more trades than Revolution 1.1 and v1.3, but its been holding down the DD pretty well considering. Rev 1.1 and Rev 1.3 have been also been doing really well. The DD has been quite a bit higher on v1.1, but its recovered some of it, and is looking good. It's...
Revolution was written to be a little more conservative in both the primary and subsequent triggering and even when it detects the Market Weakness...

The reason for more trades with your Revolution accounts over Evolution...more pairs...more risk...more DD...but the DATA is KEY!

I've always stated that Each Currency Set has their own independent personality...the 7 that I trade are definitely the ones that have the closest in personality, much the reason that these play a little better by the rules.

There are a couple of others that may still fit in nicely, but given that I've only mostly studied my Magic 7...I can't really say which.

Then comes to things like spread and pip profit, market movement...all factors in a Dynamic Grid.

With ya on the reflection of a Month worth of trading though.

Just looking at my Evolution Demo and a couple of the others that were early runners is impressive.

I think NN will begin to shine a little brighter, but still need to assess how Trigger 3 will play into this.

On a personal account, I've written in a version without the 3rd trigger, so, should be more of a TRUE No-Nedge version of Revolution. With this, there will be some loss in overall profitability, but the idea is still to reduce the risk meaning a smaller account size and increase the profit based on percentage.

I like to have a few personal accounts on the run, keep em small...if they can continue to churn some profit, all good...move profit to another account and keep em growing. If they blow up...fuck em...move on!

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  • #605
  • Feb 27, 2018 1:31pm Feb 27, 2018 1:31pm
Quoting mrdfx
It will be good to see the final results of the 3 versions after 1 month of 24/5 trading and then compare.
Consolidated all of your accounts on post 1 for easier viewing.
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  • #606
  • Feb 27, 2018 1:36pm Feb 27, 2018 1:36pm
I don't like to get into the politics... especially in a trade thread, but saw this and open mouth guffawed!
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  • #607
  • Feb 27, 2018 1:42pm Feb 27, 2018 1:42pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Hey Dude, Everything I test is M1, unless otherwise specified and these are ALL DEFAULT settings. No adjustments needed, but do feel free to play around with them.
Thanks Magix. Itching to try revolution. Will set it up soon and keep you updated on the TE.
Thx
  • #608
  • Feb 27, 2018 2:44pm Feb 27, 2018 2:44pm
What is under the hood for NN?

Here's an idea...

Looking at the trades of Evolution, we can see that we are stuck with Buys at the Top and Sells at the bottom and a Median Line that we move back to.

No Nedge looks to observe this homeostatic line and trend towards it, when the immediate trend shifts to it.

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No...Not counter trend...though it may get caught in some of the whippy action...it assumes that price will gravitate towards a profitable median, when the daily chart is turning on the M1 Chart by trend definitions.

No sells below the median - wait for buys.
No buys above the median - wait for sells.

When the market is against it, we are still accumulating trades under the same logic of Revolution - with the REV NN version - (Not released yet).

The idea...let's look at the best chances of not accumulating massive amounts of trades...

Both Prophecy and Revolution versions of NN are accumulating positions now...will be interesting to see how these play out!

Just thought I'd lend an idea of what I was looking at when working on the logic.
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  • #609
  • Feb 27, 2018 7:17pm Feb 27, 2018 7:17pm
Trigger 3, Baby!
&
Out of Trend Exit Logic 2!!

Enough of a retrace to scrap the shit off the shoe!

Booyeah!
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  • #610
  • Feb 27, 2018 8:28pm Feb 27, 2018 8:28pm
Hi Magix

How are you?

Just to let you know l am still testing evolution on 8 pairs, ,01Lot... since 2.5 weeks same as l am not in your list...

Actually l have the biggest DD ever... 826$ with 83 trades opened so far…

As you know a Demo account doesn’t acurately calculate margin cost involves on live account…

Then l do it manually on regular base on excel sheet to give me an idea on how much money l would need if one day l decided to go live with evolution…

At that moment 4K live would be needed to survive with 8 pairs, ,01L...For a net gain of approx 100$/weekly...if that pace subsist…

Do you think evolution is able to handle a really long trend...as we know majority of grid ea’s failed when the trend is to heavy…

l think the chalenge is really there…

Anyway my demo won’t die soon then l will continue testing…
Hope my feedback was helpful…
Continue your good work...it is fun to be part of a nice team like this...
Have a good night guys
  • #611
  • Feb 27, 2018 8:30pm Feb 27, 2018 8:30pm
True Test of Trigger 3.

My Live Private Version - No Trigger 3
vs
Test Account - with Trigger 3...
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  • #612
  • Feb 27, 2018 8:40pm Feb 27, 2018 8:40pm
Quoting ben.deschain
Hi Magix How are you? Just to let you know l am still testing evolution on 8 pairs, ,01Lot... since 2.5 weeks same as l am not in your list... Actually l have the biggest DD ever... 826$ with 83 trades opened so far… As you know a Demo account doesn’t acurately calculate margin cost involves on live account… Then l do it manually on regular base on excel sheet to give me an idea on how much money l would need if one day l decided to go live with evolution… At that moment 4K live would be needed to survive with 8 pairs, ,01L...For a net gain of approx...

Hey Ben,

The Triggering logic for Evolution was tested on a Previous EA - TDA - Stats are posted somewhere in the thread...

It ran for 6 full months with an account start of $3000 and eventually doubled the account before hitting 2 Stop Losses for $1000 ea on EURUSD and GBPUSD.

If there was no Stoploss in place, they would have actually recovered.

The difference between Evolution and TDA is that Evolution will work to close out the worst trades, where as TDA logic was to only CLOSE ALL when the sum of all trades was either greater than profit, or hit stop loss.

In 6 months, 7 pairs, $3000 - it ran smoooooth...
By that, I mean that it never got to a 200 Trade Max Threshold by Tickmill and never hit a point in margin where couldn't take any more trades.

Now...we did see some pretty serious trends in December through January, where the EA finally tapped out, which is much the reason that I am working with the current core.

By closing some trades down periodically, instead of trying to carry all to profit, the theory is, we may not have hit that Stop Loss value.

It's a theory...

Best Guess...really...

But in all seriousness...anything can happen.

If you look at my previous post and albeit a little different logic than just Evolution or Revolution, I am gambling about $1100 on 14 pairs!

Pure fucking insanity!

Just going off of what I have seen in these and with a little bit of a safety net, I think that I will be able to make up my mind if and when I ever want to close all trades and cash in my chips.

What you do with your personal account, it's all you.
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  • #613
  • Feb 27, 2018 8:42pm Feb 27, 2018 8:42pm
Just in case anybody is wondering...

14 pairs because the other 5 I was going to add...didn't have enough history for them to function properly...

My pairs in trade - Live Account:
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  • #614
  • Feb 27, 2018 8:55pm Feb 27, 2018 8:55pm
One more thing I'd like to add...

Since mentioning the Charity Thread...I've had a couple of inquiries as to where or how people can donate to me.

So...to help clear the air on this...

1. I don't now, nor have I ever taken any of the donations from the charity thread. The user was to select a charity of their choice.
2. I have mentioned a crowdfund on this...(New Test Server) but in all honesty, I just don't think it's worth the time...
3. I do appreciate the offers...seriously, it's not that I don't like free money, but these are Hobby Bots for me...I've got a few accounts that churn and I honestly, don't need the money. The wife let me get a Mercedes Last year, 8 months after buying another car...she's understandably (and not looking over my shoulder as I am typing this) keeping my hobby extras to what they can provide.
4. I am not selling anything! If you want to be a part of the test group, start providing some stats...this shit is FREE!

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  • #615
  • Feb 27, 2018 9:00pm Feb 27, 2018 9:00pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Hey Ben, The Triggering logic for Evolution was tested on a Previous EA - TDA - Stats are posted somewhere in the thread... It ran for 6 full months with an account start of $3000 and eventually doubled the account before hitting 2 Stop Losses for $1000 ea on EURUSD and GBPUSD. If there was no Stoploss in place, they would have actually recovered. The difference between Evolution and TDA is that Evolution will work to close out the worst trades, where as TDA logic was to only CLOSE ALL when the sum of all trades was either greater than profit,...
Thanks... That was interesting...will continue to follow closely...
On another topic, has your wife fully recovered now?
  • #616
  • Feb 27, 2018 9:02pm Feb 27, 2018 9:02pm
Quoting ben.deschain
{quote} Thanks... That was interesting...will continue to follow closely... On another topic, has your wife fully recovered now?
She's all good...has the yips about the Rental we got her today...

And a little edgy...

(but she has to put up with my shit...who wouldn't be?)
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  • #617
  • Feb 27, 2018 9:45pm Feb 27, 2018 9:45pm
So...what if you wanted your own No Nedge version...

Well...until it's tested, good n proper, no release, so you either wait it out Oooooooooooooor!

You can work with the current tools, interjecting a little Manual Workings...

Example.

This is a USDCAD chart, fairly strong uptrend and moving at a decent clip...so, let's say you plotted out an area, like the one on the chart - Weekly Resistance. That seems a decent place to sell if price gets there...
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Here's whatcha do...

Set the EA to Only Sell, once it starts looking toppy...

Oh dear gawd...what if you are wrong??

Don't panic...this EA will not Start to SELL immediately once it's set...the Trend Still has to change, to a short immediate, based on the logic programmed in. Meaning, if price crushes through this zone, there's a very good likelihood that you won't see a Sell taking place until the trend starts to weaken and eventually change.

Be the same on any other chart you look at...H4 or Daily...weekly if you have that great of sense...and will also work on Buying...if there's a chart bottoming...in your opinion, set the EA to Only Long and when the trend starts to shift...it will start looking for Long positions.

TADA!
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  • #618
  • Feb 27, 2018 11:29pm Feb 27, 2018 11:29pm
Welp...so far, my private version doing better than the 3rd trigger on Dragon...

Just not losing as much!

lol

Time to get tucked into my footie jammies n watch Tucker.
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  • #619
  • Feb 28, 2018 12:40am Feb 28, 2018 12:40am
Hay Magix,

NN up and running https://www.forexfactory.com/telac#acct.74
  • #620
  • Feb 28, 2018 6:28am Feb 28, 2018 6:28am
Am in love with this version R NN

19 PAIRS lot size 5 LOT per pair loool running for the past 31 hours

my TE :

https://www.forexfactory.com/abusaad412#acct.28
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