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  • #421
  • Feb 21, 2018 11:25am Feb 21, 2018 11:25am
Hi .

this is nice results for one day
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  • #422
  • Feb 21, 2018 11:47am Feb 21, 2018 11:47am
Quoting Gregv
Trade explorer is set : I run 6 pairs with 2 pips brik renko. Regards, GregV


FUCKING AWESOME!

All of my previous grid testers - that had trade strategy, seemingly did a lot better with Renko...so, really excited to see how yours play out!!!

What renko software are you using??

Thanks!

Added to the first post...
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  • #423
  • Feb 21, 2018 11:47am Feb 21, 2018 11:47am
Quoting admir
Hi . this is nice results for one day {image}


Rock on, dude!

Rock!

On!
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  • #424
  • Feb 21, 2018 11:48am Feb 21, 2018 11:48am
Quoting admir
Hi . this is nice results for one day {image}
Hello Admir, really impressive result: Really you have more than 4.000 trades?
  • #425
  • Feb 21, 2018 11:54am Feb 21, 2018 11:54am
Quoting renkotop
{quote} Hello Admir, really impressive result: Really you have more than 4.000 trades?

Good eye!

Does seem a lot for a day...would like to have him on a referral account!

lol
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  • #426
  • Feb 21, 2018 12:00pm Feb 21, 2018 12:00pm
Magix I've been looking at all active trades on Evolution and the DD seem to be coming from 2 pairs only. There are some orders in DD which I've noticed that are still floating for a while now, even though there are orders being opened, and closed on those same 2 pairs, it's like the EA has forgotten about them or not taking them into its' calculations. Take a look at the TE so you can see what I'm talking about.

I'm wondering if I should leave the EA to do its thing or perhaps just close them manually. I do know that its only a loss once you close it lol. I don't want to interfere with the EA if those trades are still part of the EA's plan.
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  • #427
  • Feb 21, 2018 12:08pm Feb 21, 2018 12:08pm
Quoting mrdfx
Magix I've been looking at all active trades on Evolution and the DD seem to be coming from 2 pairs only. There are some orders in DD which I've noticed that are still floating for a while now, even though there are orders being opened, and closed on those same 2 pairs, it's like the EA has forgotten about them or not taking them into its' calculations. Take a look at the TE so you can see what I'm talking about. I'm wondering if I should leave the EA to do its thing or perhaps just close them manually. I do know that its only a loss once you close...

Evolution and Revolution are not Static - they are Dynamic!

These trades have only been forgotten about because the market isn't showing directional weakness, in their favor.

Once a weakness is present, the EA counter logic will kick in...or, I guess I should say "Should Kick In".

It's kind of like the market gap that we seen on GBPCAD yesterday...
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See where the bottom side trade is...and the LARGE green square around, what could have been Long Trades...but at the top, is a Market Short.

The EA read the Daily Trend...realized that we are currently Overbought...
Looked at the trend throughout the day, and couldn't sell because there was no market weakness...
When the market Flattened...weakness detected and a subsequent short was taken.
This creates the Dynamic Ranges for trading...

Make Sense?
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  • #428
  • Feb 21, 2018 12:18pm Feb 21, 2018 12:18pm
Now...

All that being said...
And
Has been mentioned...

If you are like me and don't want to carry open trades into the weekend...shut them down...take your weekly profit/loss and start fresh again at opening bells.

By not having a Static Grid...the Market can move FOREVER against the original trades...and sure it will carry some DD...

BUT!!

The Demise of ALL Grids and especially MARTINGALES is that they continue to add in trades against current trend based on a User Defined Static Number.
and then...

KABOOM!!

Now...admittedly...it can be fun to open a 100k account with a Martingale and Watch it make hundreds of percents per week/month (whatever)...but when you realize that:
1. No broker on the planet will open you a 100k account, with leverage, to have trade a ten cent lot...
2. Risking this is unbelievably crazy if you could...
3. THEY ALL EVENTUALLY BLOW UP ANYWAYS...

It becomes a lot more fun to see a couple hunny added to a smaller account, while you can still strap on your footy jammies and sleep comfy knowing that if this EA blows up...there are a lot bigger problems in the world for you to focus on!
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  • #429
  • Feb 21, 2018 12:33pm Feb 21, 2018 12:33pm
Demo versus Live.
Demo was placed on the chart the day before yesterday, started trading during the night.
Live was placed on the chart today around noon and started trading since then.

Seems like the Time/Date/Market Behavior is also key here.
Both had around 10$ DD, Demo closed the Lone Trade during the spike up and the Live closed the shorts when it retraced back down.
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  • #430
  • Feb 21, 2018 12:41pm Feb 21, 2018 12:41pm
Quoting Reamasesa
Seems like the Time/Date/Market Behavior is also key here.

Kinda...



You see...it's more like this...

The EA reads trend...
Meaning...if there wasn't a long on one account for it to try and cost average out...and the EA read the market as short...it wouldn't have taken any longs to begin with.
1. Read market - Are we overbought/oversold?
2. Read Trend - is the market in trend or is it showing market weakness?
3. Look for an appropriate trigger.
4. Rinse and repeat as necessary.

Now...

There is one thing that can have an impact on this...and along with, a set of basic instructions for our Newest Renko Tester - Greg.

Your terminal does need some history for it to be effective...and I know what your saying...last week I told you to delete all of your history to keep your shit running better...

This still rings true...

The amount of history that you need to have in place is only about a day!

So...

If you are launching a NEW Terminal - with no history, or working with Offline Charts...you will need to get them set up...let them run for a 24hour period
And Then

Launch!

Does this help explain what you've seen in your trade comparison??
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  • #431
  • Feb 21, 2018 12:58pm Feb 21, 2018 12:58pm
Sorry for not quoting, I'm on my cell and it's messing up with my keyboard.

No, it's not. You see, those shorts? They are kinda identical on both charts so aside from that lone trade, everything is about the same more or less.
So I'm not worried, the Raver is doing its thing pretty much the same on both accounts.

So to amend my previous post, there are differences but is to be expected and they are not off by miles.

As for the history for Renko, one can always fire up a 1M chart and leave the "home" key pressed till so the history gets loaded, faster than waiting for a day.
  • #432
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:05pm Feb 21, 2018 1:05pm
Quoting Reamasesa
As for the history for Renko, one can always fire up a 1M chart and leave the "home" key pressed till so the history gets loaded, faster than waiting for a day.
Great Tip...Thanks!

Quoting Reamasesa
Sorry for not quoting, I'm on my cell and it's messing up with my keyboard. No, it's not. You see, those shorts? They are kinda identical on both charts so aside from that lone trade, everything is about the same more or less. So I'm not worried, the Raver is doing its thing pretty much the same on both accounts. So to amend my previous post, there are differences but is to be expected and they are not off by miles.
One more thing...I guess worth mentioning...

Though Demo and Live do trade relatively similar...they are not EXACT...

There can be differences in the individual candles - mostly only an issue when trading M1-M5 charts - M1 being the Most Sensitive
&
Spread.

During the whipsaws...there can be minute differences in spread from demo to live...giving them similar results...but again...not EXACT.
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  • #433
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:07pm Feb 21, 2018 1:07pm
Quoting renkotop
{quote} Hello Admir, really impressive result: Really you have more than 4.000 trades?

Hei you can find my trade explorer in first post.

Admir- 4 Pair
  • #434
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:08pm Feb 21, 2018 1:08pm
A little history...

Along these very same lines...

I worked with one of the EAs during development and it did, still actually does...fairly well.

Testing on a Demo account...

Running live...lead to a VERY ugly Draw Down situation...

It happens...

Soooooooooooooooo....

Wanting to take live to mimic demo...I used the Trade Copier from fxblue to clone trades from demo to live...

Still didn't get exact results...

But did get a lot closer.
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  • #435
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:08pm Feb 21, 2018 1:08pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Good eye! Does seem a lot for a day...would like to have him on a referral account! lol


Wath you will referr?
  • #436
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:11pm Feb 21, 2018 1:11pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} FUCKING AWESOME! All of my previous grid testers - that had trade strategy, seemingly did a lot better with Renko...so, really excited to see how yours play out!!! What renko software are you using?? Thanks! Added to the first post...
I use a standard renko created by my own programmer. It's a classic renko.

For the moment, Revolution have take 4 trades.

Regards,
GregV
  • #437
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:17pm Feb 21, 2018 1:17pm
Quoting admir
{quote} Wath you will referr?
Looking at your current open trades...you are well in excess of 100 trades - thus the remainder omitted comment at the bottom of your TE - to the public.

Annnnnnnnnd...have closed over 4000 trades.

I've been running Evolution for over a month now...though only on 7 pairs...and it hasn't closed 4000 trades...
And...altough Revolution is a lot more refined...it's trading 19 pairs and I've barely seen above 50 open trades.

There's something going on with your terminal...

And with EURUSD...no open trades...you've got a page worth...
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  • #438
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:18pm Feb 21, 2018 1:18pm
Quoting Gregv
{quote} I use a standard renko created by my own programmer. It's a classic renko. For the moment, Revolution have take 4 trades. Regards, GregV
Nice!

Even more Exciting Now!!

I love the OVO Renko package...great stuffs!
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  • #439
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:22pm Feb 21, 2018 1:22pm
Quoting admir
{quote} Hei you can find my trade explorer in first post. Admir- 4 Pair
lol
  • #440
  • Feb 21, 2018 1:25pm Feb 21, 2018 1:25pm
Looks like a Minimum Time Before Next Trade will need to be implemented prior to another release...Time Delay...

This would save both the Double Taps and Daily Roll and MASSIVE loading on pairs.

Logic is written in to read the candle - bid and ask price - but this doesn't seem to solve all issues...
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