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  • #281
  • Feb 18, 2018 11:05am Feb 18, 2018 11:05am
Quoting Magix
I know... You're thinking...Commercial!! And, who'd fucking blame you??? Not me! So... To dispell this rumor or myth... For the first 5 people to show me a NEW ACCOUNT with a link to their Forex Factory Trade Explorer(on the account you will be launching this with), that can run an EA with their current resources...I will email you a copy! No limitations. No Cost. No Expiry Date... Your ideas on trade pairs, market range, time frame and you must keep the link live for viewing! Demo Accounts ONLY! $200 deposit/pair! The more pairs we launch, the...

PMs are closed again...testers have been selected off contact and I've reached out to a few other of the regulars.

Looking forward to a Great Week!!

Bring on the Revolution!
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  • #282
  • Feb 18, 2018 11:33am Feb 18, 2018 11:33am
Sadly i didnt get the chance
  • #283
  • Feb 18, 2018 11:36am Feb 18, 2018 11:36am
Quoting Magix
{quote} PMs are closed again...testers have been selected off contact and I've reached out to a few other of the regulars. Looking forward to a Great Week!! Bring on the Revolution!
Damn saw your post too late about new testers for Revolution.

I'll be watching and following a long!
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  • #284
  • Feb 18, 2018 11:55am Feb 18, 2018 11:55am
Quoting abusaad412
Sadly i didnt get the chance
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Damn saw your post too late about new testers for Revolution. I'll be watching and following a long!
Check your PMs.

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  • #285
  • Feb 18, 2018 12:21pm Feb 18, 2018 12:21pm
One point - for Revolution Testers...

You will still need to have the TMA + CG indicator to run this version.

Make sure it's in your indicators folder or you will see zero trades.
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  • #286
  • Feb 18, 2018 2:27pm Feb 18, 2018 2:27pm
Killing off TMA - After half a year.

It did well - until the New Year Trend...still closing down with almost 50% on gains with the current DD.

The New Triggering logic from Revolution may work well with this Core, but will see how the Revolution works with current.
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  • #287
  • Feb 18, 2018 2:30pm Feb 18, 2018 2:30pm
Quoting energetic
I am going to test 10 pairs with default fixed lot at TF 1 min. Here is my trade explorer energetic's Profile @ Forex Factory
Added your Revolution trader to the thread...for whatever reason, I cannot select 2 of my own accounts...

Thanks for the post, dude!

\m/
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  • #288
  • Feb 18, 2018 2:43pm Feb 18, 2018 2:43pm
Okay...

So, why $200 per pair, you may be asking??

Why not just $200 and run one pair??

It's like this...working with Evolution, I've seen a DD of around $1100, running on 7 pairs - Giving a Max Requirement of $150 ish - so far!!

Because Revolution shows a little more restraint in logic, $200 should more than keep the accounts afloat in almost any market condition...Almost!
But...with showing more restraint, there may be a lot larger gaps between trades that need to be cost averaged out...meaning...though we shouldn't wake up to an account run overnight and a market trend change, there could still be a lot of trades in play due to being a little less aggressive.

Triggering seems to be correct in the Strat Tester, but shit can change FAST when comes time to live trading.

Now...part of the success in Evolution is because it can be a little more aggressive in cost averaging, meaning that it will increase the profitability...but in this, it also increases the risk.

I know...simple, right...

Add more money to your live account and just bank the gains...

And...yeah, this can definitely be done...can already be done with Evolution, but the idea is to possibly have a larger lot size in trade on smaller accounts...

Again...looking at what is available for up and running grid traders, some of them will be profitable with $5k in...but having worked with Martingale or increased lot Cost Averaging, I can tell you that a single day can turn your account into Dust...and your broker won't even send you a Thank You Email.

Safety First!
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  • #289
  • Feb 18, 2018 2:49pm Feb 18, 2018 2:49pm
Aggressive Cost Averaging!

For those that were around the Falling Knives thread, you know that I had at one point, added in a Hyper Aggressive Triggering logic that would work to cost average out - directionally.

Well...this worked sometimes, but over the long run...ended up with accounts in ashes and a lot too easy to overload single pairs in trade locking the account at typically 200 trades, that are now running FAST against you, with no ability to be in on a hedge...

With previous logic, the Sum of All trades needed to be above a minimum profit point to close out...this was part of the issue...

What if we have a separate - Make or Break Bot - that can stand in place to hammer fucking trades on a per pair basis to help get shit cleaned up??

Given that the Current Core will require sums of trades above a minimum balance to close out the worst positions, getting aggressive with this, might actually make a lot more sense...

Going to fuck around with this idea over the next short period of time and if I can get triggering set properly and develop an idea that works...may look to add this to the thread tools.

Really...as long as the Magic Number from the hyper-close EA is the same as current and active trades...logic should continue to rapid fire to save any grid or single trade EA.

Risk?

FUCK YEAH!

But...effectively calculated, may be the difference between having an account or slowly watching it die a horrible death.
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  • #290
  • Feb 18, 2018 3:00pm Feb 18, 2018 3:00pm
Ya see...it could be as EASY as just using position and directionally triggering to hyper flood until trades get closed...and then, it stops working!

Check it...

2 Areas where we have potential to cost average out...and you can see where some of the higher positions have closed out the trades...but there's still a fist full of these motherfuckers open...
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  • #291
  • Feb 18, 2018 3:05pm Feb 18, 2018 3:05pm
So...
Earlier on in the thread, we looked at coding and one particular case...applied directionally.

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if((b==0
if((s==0

These are the primary triggers...

By eliminating these, we could just work with the...

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if(b>0
if (s>0

Meaning, that there must be open trades in order to engage the hyper triggering...if all of these motherfuckers are closed...the logic will not know to take a primary trigger and you may be able to just sit back...wipe the sweat off your brow and you not only live to fight another day...but have a couple of extra shekels in the account...

It's a neat idea...to be sure, but will have to have criteria set and with enough grid space to not continuously trigger more waves of trades...by leaving rogue positions behind!

That could be dangerous!

Will definitely need some ponder time on this idea and will see what can be done...but I think this idea has potential and well...why not giver a whirl, right?
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  • #292
  • Feb 18, 2018 3:06pm Feb 18, 2018 3:06pm
Pretty Kewl??

er Whut??
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  • #293
  • Feb 18, 2018 3:39pm Feb 18, 2018 3:39pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Hey dude, Looks like you got lost in the shuffle...given your new status, I cannot send you a PM... Give the current version a whirl to get acclimated..get some posts under your belt and we will get you in on one of the next rounds. If all works out with the Testers that will be running revolution...we're only a couple weeks away from full public release. Thanks for the interest and Welcome to FF!

Yep seems so! I have been a "Lurker" for probably around a year, but never bothered to set up an account, guess that'll teach me! I will give the current version a go.
  • #294
  • Feb 18, 2018 4:01pm Feb 18, 2018 4:01pm
Quoting 1qaz2wsx33
{quote} Yep seems so! I have been a "Lurker" for probably around a year, but never bothered to set up an account, guess that'll teach me! I will give the current version a go.

lol...

1. With this kind of patience, you will be better off in market...
2. If it sounds too good to be true...it probably is...

There'll be lots of ops to get in...and really, because you did step up, I could email you if you posted an addy...but must caution you on this.

I did this about 8 years ago and have been getting nothing but ads for Russian Girls and Penis Enlargement products...which brings me to my next point...

Anybody interested in a group buy on any of this shit??

lol



Cheers dude...hope to keep seeing you around!
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  • #295
  • Feb 18, 2018 5:21pm Feb 18, 2018 5:21pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Added your Revolution trader to the thread...for whatever reason, I cannot select 2 of my own accounts... Thanks for the post, dude! \m/
Changed shit up a bit...

Since energetic has been running Evolution since a public release and running it on the same pairs...it shows a good confirmation of trading.

Because my Revolution trader has a lot more pair data, might be more prudent to have this as a showcase.

Win...lose...or draw...

Important for all to understand risk:reward.
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  • #296
  • Feb 18, 2018 5:29pm Feb 18, 2018 5:29pm
One more ticket for the show!

Could always use a little more data...

If you work with Renko or Range bars and are interested in testing Revolution...drop down a reply here.

Would love to get a looksie to confirm that these ideas will translate!
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  • #297
  • Feb 18, 2018 5:35pm Feb 18, 2018 5:35pm
Fat like me?

A good watch...click on the author link, a lot of great info!

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  • #298
  • Feb 18, 2018 5:45pm Feb 18, 2018 5:45pm
Loaded up a new $5000 demo account running 20 pairs with Revolution.

The TE can be found in my profile.

Let the fun begin!
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  • #299
  • Feb 18, 2018 5:46pm Feb 18, 2018 5:46pm
The one issue that has crossed my mind with trading 17 and 19 pairs on this...

If shit starts to get deep, across the board, and a broker max trades is restricted at 200 trades...that's really only 10-12 trades per pair.

Fingers crossed for the time being...hate to see the accounts get caught in a fucking deadlock!
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  • #300
  • Feb 18, 2018 5:47pm Feb 18, 2018 5:47pm
Quoting mrdfx
Loaded up a new $5000 demo account running 20 pairs with Revolution. The TE can be found in my profile. Let the fun begin!
\m/

Rock On!

Will take some time and load the revolution traders in Post one...in a bit...or tomorrow...

Sitting back with some cold beer and motivation level is lower than my level of pondering...

:|
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