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  • #12,421
  • Jan 29, 2018 1:11pm Jan 29, 2018 1:11pm
https://youtu.be/6wmyil9AByc

https://youtu.be/8Ohixt25ebQ
  • #12,422
  • Jan 29, 2018 2:05pm Jan 29, 2018 2:05pm
Quoting DrManhatten
Healthcare on the other hand is not something that is entitled to be free, at least that is my belief. How was it or who decided that health care was a human right? It isn't a human right so not sure why you are arguing that everyone should have health care. Every one should have access to adequate healthcare, and it should be affordable, that much I agree with but lets get real here, its a difference between the approaches methods in how Government implements their solutions, and my broader point is that Government is terrible at solving those...
I've had two emergency caesarians, the first one with complications. The NHS saved my life and it cost me nothing. I wonder how much that would have cost me in America? What if I couldn't afford it? Die or go bankrupt? That's only me and I'm otherwise in very good health. I am so glad my children are healthy too. What if things were different? Not something you have to worry about.

Ah, I get it now. You're single, male, in a good job with no dependents. You don't want to be paying for people like me. I'm a burden to you. You take nothing out of the system. I'm not sure the rest of America shares your sentiment though.

For all the money America spends interfering with other countries, you could have a first class healthcare system and there will be no one suffering or dying needlessly. You could put your people first with all that money.
  • #12,423
  • Jan 30, 2018 2:47am Jan 30, 2018 2:47am
Do you believe high cholesterol puts you at high risk of heart disease and strokes?
https://youtu.be/zjqQKwArBtc
Do you believe you should take statins to lower your cholesterol levels?
https://youtu.be/Ry1Z8buyd8I
https://youtu.be/6xXJUX02rto
  • #12,424
  • Jan 30, 2018 9:03am Jan 30, 2018 9:03am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I've had two emergency caesarians, the first one with complications. The NHS saved my life and it cost me nothing. I wonder how much that would have cost me in America? What if I couldn't afford it? Die or go bankrupt? That's only me and I'm otherwise in very good health. I am so glad my children are healthy too. What if things were different? Not something you have to worry about. Ah, I get it now. You're single, male, in a good job with no dependents. You don't want to be paying for people like me. I'm a burden to you. You take nothing...
It's like you completely ignored anything I said. So if what you say is so good why ask for my opinion?

Also, I don't have a job, I am self employed, and I have earned everything that I have and pay taxes, but to people like you who make such arguments it is never enough. When is it enough? When you can claim 80, 90% of my earnings? How total control over my civil liberties? Also I don't understand the whole nonsense of you being a burden to me, I pay taxes, and you make it sound as if I contribute nothing. You are way off base with this!

As far as America interfering with other countries, yep you got me there, but lets call a spade a spade shall we? Our system wasn't broken before, and we had safety nets in place to address the very same issue you go on about with out really knowing or considering anything I said on the contrary. We simply don't agree, I believe in a free market system, while you believe in one that Government takes care of you (socialist nanny state). So be it, but you fail to answer the question in how you equate that to being more free, which I don't and that really was the crux on why I responded to your original post that cited a discredited article in the first place. I wonder in your musings how you like to put America down and always talk about how Great Britain is so much better, does that reenforce your patriotism for your country in how you are so much better than we? I seem to recall Britain once being an imperial ruling nation that laid ruin to many countries in the name of King and Queen! Moral equivalency has no shame, its just evolution as in humans always love to have and adversary, yesterday it was Britain, today it is America, and Tomorrow it will probably be China, and so it continues!
  • #12,425
  • Jan 30, 2018 9:05am Jan 30, 2018 9:05am
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  • #12,426
  • Jan 30, 2018 9:05am Jan 30, 2018 9:05am
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  • #12,427
  • Edited 5:32pm Jan 30, 2018 9:22am | Edited 5:32pm
Quoting DrManhatten
So if what you say is so good why ask for my opinion?
I didn't.

Quoting DrManhatten
I am self employed, and I have earned everything that I have and pay taxes, but to people like you who make such arguments it is never enough. When is it enough? When you can claim 80, 90% of my earnings?
Who's like me? Him?

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Who said anything about 80, 90% of your earnings?

Quoting DrManhatten
I wonder in your musings how you like to put America down and always talk about how Great Britain is so much better, does that reenforce your patriotism for your country in how you are so much better than we?
Do I? I think you have a very short and selective memory. I slag everyone off, but you only notice it when it's your turn. I suggest you are over sensitive. Did I hit a nerve? I don't think the UK is great. I think you've had an irony bypass.
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10714520#post10714520

https://youtu.be/STIvNjWobzA
  • #12,428
  • Jan 30, 2018 10:51am Jan 30, 2018 10:51am
Canned Heat - Let's Work Together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhjXekFdsis
  • #12,429
  • Jan 31, 2018 4:05am Jan 31, 2018 4:05am
Quoting EfYou
https://youtu.be/6wmyil9AByc https://youtu.be/8Ohixt25ebQ

Sweden is reaching the end game ? Uk need to take notice tic toc

https://youtu.be/4kpQ_id6NhM
  • #12,430
  • Jan 31, 2018 4:24am Jan 31, 2018 4:24am
The NHS is something both the left and right have agreement on in terms of it's function in UK. The problems arise from the issues on how to maintain it. It is something that can work for all, we know this because historically it has. The left believe it can be a feeding of the 5000 type story with a fish and loaf. That only works if a high percentage of the 5000 each contribute 1 loaf and 1 fish. The right know the issue but won't do anything about it. They know that the percentage of the 5000 that contribute a loaf and a fish is decreasing rapidly. So in some ways the right are worse as recognise the problem, are in power and yet refuse to address the real issue. FF has a policy of no Nationalism type posts now too, it has been lumped together with the racism tab just so you understand that they don't see any distinction between the two.
  • #12,431
  • Jan 31, 2018 4:36am Jan 31, 2018 4:36am
https://youtu.be/lcoDJB2kP7w

I'll say farewell now while I can
  • #12,432
  • Jan 31, 2018 4:43am Jan 31, 2018 4:43am
Quoting EfYou
The NHS is something both the left and right have agreement on in terms of it's function in UK. The problems arise from the issues on how to maintain it. It is something that can work for all, we know this because historically it has. The left believe it can be a feeding of the 5000 type story with a fish and loaf. That only works if a high percentage of the 5000 each contribute 1 loaf and 1 fish. The right know the issue but won't do anything about it. They know that the percentage of the 5000 that contribute a loaf and a fish is decreasing rapidly....
I support the founding principle of the NHS. Today it has grown into a gross monster abused by many, not just our own, which I can almost tolerate, but from others around the world who have contributed nothing to the UK and have no intention of ever doing so.

Nationalism = racism now at FF? Ok. Flags deleted from post 1. British bulldog and Union Jack = racist. Stars and stripes = racist. We can't upset anyone. Ah, EU flag must be racist too!
  • #12,433
  • Edited 4:56am Jan 31, 2018 4:44am | Edited 4:56am
Quoting EfYou
https://youtu.be/lcoDJB2kP7w I'll say farewell now while I can
Ha, I saw that in the DM.

I was wondering, if the army are lowering their standards to accommodate women, what about the fire service? Is it no longer a requirement to be able to carry someone out of a burning house?

Quote Tommy Robinson, "The British Army, we're the best in the world." Oops that's nationalism! (truth counts for nothing.)
  • #12,434
  • Jan 31, 2018 4:52am Jan 31, 2018 4:52am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I support the founding principle of the NHS. Today it has grown into a gross monster abused by many, not just our own, which I can almost tolerate, but from others around the world who have contributed nothing to the UK and have no intention of ever doing so. Nationalism = racism now at FF? Ok. Flags deleted from post 1. British bulldog and Union Jack = racist. Stars and stripes = racist. We can't upset anyone. Ah, EU flag must be racist too!
Wow, it's been so long since I looked at post one that I did not notice. Did you ask about this, this makes no sense.

Quoting EfYou
https://youtu.be/lcoDJB2kP7w I'll say farewell now while I can
I think you are safe with that one. You know well by now what will get your alias smoked.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #12,435
  • Jan 31, 2018 4:59am Jan 31, 2018 4:59am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I support the founding principle of the NHS. Today it has grown into a gross monster abused by many, not just our own, which I can almost tolerate, but from others around the world who have contributed nothing to the UK and have no intention of ever doing so. Nationalism = racism now at FF? Ok. Flags deleted from post 1. British bulldog and Union Jack = racist. Stars and stripes = racist. We can't upset anyone. Ah, EU flag must be racist too!
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  • #12,436
  • Jan 31, 2018 5:01am Jan 31, 2018 5:01am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Ha, I saw that in the DM. I was wondering, if the army are lowering their standards to accommodate women, what about the fire service? Is it no longer a requirement to be able to carry someone out of a burning house? Quote Tommy Robinson, "The British Army, we're the best in the world." Oops that's nationalism! (truth counts for nothing.)

And of course let's halt all radio communication and the battle while our comrade prays. Watch all My time running out.
  • #12,437
  • Jan 31, 2018 5:03am Jan 31, 2018 5:03am
Quoting EfYou
{quote} {image}
I'm guilty of the first 5.

Quoting EfYou
{quote} And of course let's halt all radio communication and the battle while our comrade prays. Watch all My time running out.
I don't think so. They have over culled and now it's a bit too quiet here for their advertisers.
  • #12,438
  • Jan 31, 2018 5:07am Jan 31, 2018 5:07am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Wow, it's been so long since I looked at post one that I did not notice. Did you ask about this, this makes no sense. {quote} I think you are safe with that one. You know well by now what will get your alias smoked.
J don't give a shit to be quite honest and your caring side does not wash with me, while you subtly refer to my "Alias", load the bullets and someone will pull the trigger for you.
  • #12,439
  • Jan 31, 2018 5:10am Jan 31, 2018 5:10am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I'm guilty of the first 5. {quote} I don't think so. They have over culled and now it's a bit too quiet here for their advertisers.
Controversy is good. It brings eyeballs.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #12,440
  • Jan 31, 2018 5:12am Jan 31, 2018 5:12am
Quoting EfYou
{quote} J don't give a shit to be quite honest and your caring side does not wash with me, while you subtly refer to my "Alias", load the bullets and someone will pull the trigger for you.
I saw your shout
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