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  • #13,001
  • Jan 29, 2018 6:30am Jan 29, 2018 6:30am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Ty - where is your H4 chart? Using the H4 as a reference you would had seen the entry.
I have previously attempted to use the H4 as reference, however, I stopped referencing it due to feeling more confused. If I remember correctly, I think it was about the horsemen being slow in the crossings causing me to never know if they would be broken or hold as s/r. Which in turn caused me to miss entries.

I guess that it is something that I should start referencing again. Now that I look at it, the trend down was strong with a hit off EMA after crossing ROMAR down.
However, the same issue always comes back to me with a ranging market. Sometimes, the horsemen is holding support/resistance and sometimes they don't. I guess I need to study the ranging more.
  • #13,002
  • Jan 29, 2018 6:36am Jan 29, 2018 6:36am
Quoting toil
Date/time/News:01/29/18, 06:30, no major RED news. Daily: Romar: S EMA: R PSAR: R Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing: DOWN Last EMA alert arrow: DOWN Last DB/SAR attachment: Bottom below the ROMAR , but last SAR attached at previous 2 candle before at bottom FIBO: Red for down Notes: market is just above fibo 38.2, purple had already crossed W,S & EMA, 4HM is in Ddown TREND WITH ROMAR & SAR HOLDING SUPPORT H-4: Romar: S EMA: R PSAR: R Check List: Last DB/SAR attachment: Bottom at fibo 0.0 with light sky bllue divergence& also touched BB so next DB...
To begin with - your H2 is your trading chart and also your posting chart for all entries. You do not trade the H1 as this trade was totally at risk going long. If everyone had paid attention with my posting Friday they would had known the trend is down and not up and ranging had ended.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,003
  • Jan 29, 2018 6:47am Jan 29, 2018 6:47am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Trader - you have a lot to learn. The H1 is NOT a trading chart. And that has been stipulated through out this thread. And the rule also stipulates your H2 chart is posted with all entries showing the entry.
The H2 chart is used for trend I know that but I thought the H1 chart had to sync I must have got confused somewhere so ill go back and re read that part also just to confirm on this H2 chart was the correct entries either a buy when the BB was pierced and then a sell entry at the retracement to the EMA to continue the trend down?
Really thankful of your time Dana and the feedback you give.
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  • #13,004
  • Jan 29, 2018 6:48am Jan 29, 2018 6:48am
Quoting TyD
{quote} I have previously attempted to use the H4 as reference, however, I stopped referencing it due to feeling more confused. If I remember correctly, I think it was about the horsemen being slow in the crossings causing me to never know if they would be broken or hold as s/r. Which in turn caused me to miss entries. I guess that it is something that I should start referencing again. Now that I look at it, the trend down was strong with a hit off EMA after crossing ROMAR down. However, the same issue always comes back to me with a ranging market....
What is confusing you is not recognizing the difference between trend and consolidation. As I have said many times - even in consolidation there is a trend. In ranging is totally about Daily highs and lows in using the SAR Swing with the Daily. Friday I had told everyone the market was going lower low because of what the Daily was saying. If you ask me that is pretty simple when you reference all charts in looking for the trend - especially the Daily. Your focus is on the 4 Horsemen and that is wrong. Your focus SHOULD be on the WHOLE PICTURE.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,005
  • Jan 29, 2018 7:01am Jan 29, 2018 7:01am
Quoting OliveBranch
Quoting OliveBranch
Date: EURJPY 29-1-18 0800 Sydney Time CHECK NEWS RELEASE BEFORE TRADING Yes - if No...... STOP .....do not proceed with Plan Daily: Open bar ROMAR - Support EMA - Resistance PSAR - Resistance ........ Evaluation: SL40. Market went up to meet with H4 EMA - SL hit. Entered too early for a Short & entry was also pretty much dead centre between Daily's EMA Resistance & SAR on Bottom. If a Short was on this session, waiting for a SAR on the H2 Parabolic for re-entry back into trend rather than the BB hit would had given more
...
You are the second trader that had mention the BB hit from last Friday and that hit moved the market up 80+ pips. So - my question is: Why does that have any relevant with the NEW DATA especially with EMA being the resistance?
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,006
  • Jan 29, 2018 7:03am Jan 29, 2018 7:03am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} What is confusing you is not recognizing the difference between trend and consolidation. As I have said many times - even in consolidation there is a trend. In ranging is totally about Daily highs and lows in using the SAR Swing with the Daily. Friday I had told everyone the market was going lower low because of what the Daily was saying. If you ask me that is pretty simple when you reference all charts in looking for the trend - especially the Daily. Your focus is on the 4 Horsemen and that is wrong. Your focus SHOULD be on the WHOLE PICTURE....
Alright. I think I have understood my mistakes. I will begin using the H4 chart for reference again. I failed in seeing the new trend down and thought the ranging was still in progress. I also disregarded your post last Friday which said that we would have a new lower high, a new lower low and that we should mark them down for reference. I missed the whole picture.

It is unbelievably astonishing seeing how you see the whole picture and I thank you for the reply. Have a good continued day!
  • #13,007
  • Jan 29, 2018 7:11am Jan 29, 2018 7:11am
  •  toil
  • | Joined Oct 2017 | Status: BUSY LIFE TAKES ME AWAY FROM MY CHA | 65 Posts
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} To begin with - your H2 is your trading chart and also your posting chart for all entries. You do not trade the H1 as this trade was totally at risk going long. If everyone had paid attention with my posting Friday they would had known the trend is down and not up and ranging had ended.
Many many thanks sir for your response. firstly sorry for posting the entry on H1 next time i will overcome this mistook, secondly after pulling the trigger i have self evaluated that was a totally risky shoot because the trend was down and also my support was very light with all holding resistance. I missed your Friday posting regarding ending of ranging. according to your lesson" ranging will end when SAR detached from the DB" , on 25 th January on H2 SAR detached from DB but H4 did dot detached. thats why i thought while planing the ranging was Not ended. Because of H2 is the trading chart & Ranging will end when SAR detached from DB on only H2 ? And another thing sir would you please mentioned how could i find out the beginning of RANGING except DB & SAR run as a single unit.
Thanks sir
Toil.
  • #13,008
  • Jan 29, 2018 7:31am Jan 29, 2018 7:31am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Lets begin with your trading plan is not a trading plan. Next - your charts are not correct by any means. First thing you need to do is get your charts correct.
Sir, i have tried to change to other monitor with 1600x900 resolutions, please tell me if these charts are correct
About trading plan, base on other traders's trading plans, i just want to make it more visual to me. What should i modify here?

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  • #13,009
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:03am Jan 29, 2018 8:03am
Quoting toil
{quote} Many many thanks sir for your response. firstly sorry for posting the entry on H1 next time i will overcome this mistook, secondly after pulling the trigger i have self evaluated that was a totally risky shoot because the trend was down and also my support was very light with all holding resistance. I missed your Friday posting regarding ending of ranging. according to your lesson" ranging will end when SAR detached from the DB" , on 25 th January on H2 SAR detached from DB but H4 did dot detached. thats why i thought while planing the ranging...
Ranging always begins with the Daily Fibo at the zero lines. Zero red from the top - zero green from the bottom. In this scenario we have a red Fibo with ROMAR as support. And when it hit support the SAR broke loose from the DB and began the ranging from the top. The H2 and H4 DB was following the Daily SAR in the ranging. The H2 SAR was giving you the entries when it hit the Low for the DB going up and the High when the DB was going down. This is consider long term ranging. If you back test you will see this happening. Short term ranging is with the DB/SAR on the H2 chart only and there are examples on this thread in how it works.

We now have the Daily 4 Horsemen in a downtrend with ROMAR still holding support. I can give you what will happen from here but it is up to you to study and know for yourself what will happen.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,010
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:07am Jan 29, 2018 8:07am
Quoting Miliano
{quote} Sir, i have tried to change to other monitor with 1600x900 resolutions, please tell me if these charts are correct About trading plan, base on other traders's trading plans, i just want to make it more visual to me. What should i modify here? {image} {image} {image} {image}
Go back to page 642 and learn how to adjust your charts.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,011
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:21am Jan 29, 2018 8:21am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Go back to page 642 and learn how to adjust your charts.
The charts i posted above are already adjusted according to your instruction on page 642.
Charts 40 spread with 39 showing, there's still something wrong, sir?
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  • #13,012
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:31am Jan 29, 2018 8:31am
Quoting Miliano
{quote} The charts i posted above are already adjusted according to your instruction on page 642. Charts 40 spread with 39 showing, there's still something wrong, sir? {image}
Is that monitor set at 1600x900?
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,013
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:36am Jan 29, 2018 8:36am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Is that monitor set at 1600x900?
Absolutely, but i got to admit this, if i open mt4 full screen, the charts will show more than 40 bars.
So what i've done here is resize mt4 window horizontally to let it hide few bars on the left. That's how i got 40 spread showing.
  • #13,014
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:38am Jan 29, 2018 8:38am
Quoting Miliano
{quote} Absolutely, but i got to admit this, if i open mt4 full screen, the charts will show more than 40 bars. So what i've done here is resize mt4 window horizontally to let it hide few bars on the left. That's how i got 40 spread showing.
My next question - is that a laptop computer? If it is not then you had adjusted it wrong. It has to be full screen
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,015
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:41am Jan 29, 2018 8:41am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} My next question - is that a laptop computer? If it is not then you had adjusted it wrong. It has to be full screen
It's actually laptop. It's so weird that my laptop has 1600x900 resolutions but my desktop doesn't support that resolutions.
  • #13,016
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:44am Jan 29, 2018 8:44am
Quoting Miliano
{quote} It's actually laptop. It's so weird that my laptop has 1600x900 resolutions but my desktop doesn't support that resolutions.
That is your problem - laptops are not designed for trading.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,017
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:48am Jan 29, 2018 8:48am
Quoting Miliano
{quote} It's actually laptop. It's so weird that my laptop has 1600x900 resolutions but my desktop doesn't support that resolutions.
It's not your desktop but your monitor that cannot handle the resolution.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #13,018
  • Jan 29, 2018 8:57am Jan 29, 2018 8:57am
Quoting Ronin303
Hi all! This is my first trading plan on this thread but not the first post. I am following this system for some months. Once again my thanks to Dove (Dana), the senior traders and all others on this thread. I was a back ground follower of this system. I do my trading plans on my book and maintain journals. But recently I feel like I cannot complete my training without posting trading plans. I will try to post my trading plans everyday until I get this system engraved in my heart. Regards, Ronin My Trading Plan: Date (Local): 29/01/2018 Time: Tokyo...
I could not made an entry today. My plan was to go short from H2 ROMAR or Parabolic. I watched that candle for 2 hours but it didn't hit H2 ROMAR or Parabolic for a few pips. Then the next candle opened below EMA which could be a good entry. But I wanted my SL to be above ROMAR. Later I understand Daily touch on Purple was a safe entry.
  • #13,019
  • Jan 29, 2018 9:01am Jan 29, 2018 9:01am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Ranging always begins with the Daily Fibo at the zero lines. Zero red from the top - zero green from the bottom. In this scenario we have a red Fibo with ROMAR as support. And when it hit support the SAR broke loose from the DB and began the ranging from the top. The H2 and H4 DB was following the Daily SAR in the ranging. The H2 SAR was giving you the entries when it hit the Low for the DB going up and the High when the DB was going down. This is consider long term ranging. If you back test you will see this happening. Short term ranging...
I'm so sorry but i don't understand this statement..can someone be so kindly to post a chart example? Thanks a lot..
  • #13,020
  • Jan 29, 2018 9:03am Jan 29, 2018 9:03am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} It's not your desktop but your monitor that cannot handle the resolution.
Thanks for your patience, sir. This is sort of sad, i really want to learn this system. I will comeback someday with new/upgraded monitor supporting required resolutions.
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