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  • #2,061
  • Jan 18, 2018 1:41pm Jan 18, 2018 1:41pm
Hi, i would be very interested too, i´m working on the problem... when to sit on my hands..

edit:
oh funny, every post about this stuff is gone?? wtf?
  • #2,062
  • Jan 18, 2018 1:50pm Jan 18, 2018 1:50pm
The same you was talking about, MaxenshteinD`s question
  • #2,063
  • Jan 19, 2018 2:17am Jan 19, 2018 2:17am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} I have my own "Code of Conduct" that I live by. I have lines drawn and set in stone that I will never ever cross.
Do you know that stone is viscous? You may not cross lines set is stone, but lines may cross you and you might not even notice it, since it is such a slow process

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  • #2,064
  • Jan 19, 2018 2:17am Jan 19, 2018 2:17am
[double post]
  • #2,065
  • Jan 19, 2018 12:23pm Jan 19, 2018 12:23pm
Well I guess one could compare CP to a messiah.
He got believers, he got nonbelievers.
Perhaps he just wanted to bring knowledge. Light. Lux
He got his disciples, got his enemies.
Got his commandments. Was crucified and came back only to be burned to ashes but he just might be a phoenix.
This is kind of sad... you guys spliting in to different religions, hating each other even though you share the same believes.
Perhaps he might even share other names...

Don't want to offend anyone by bringing religion in to it..
As a matter of fact I can't even call myself a follower of some religion. I doubt everything and believe everything. I smile at the flowers rising through the concrete.

I'll dedicate my life in to trying to understand the candle stick.
Why was it created. By who.
The truth is hidden from you
  • #2,066
  • Jan 19, 2018 12:42pm Jan 19, 2018 12:42pm
Quoting MaxenshteinD
Well I guess one could compare CP to a messiah. He got believers, he got nonbelievers. Perhaps he just wanted to bring knowledge. Light. Lux He got his disciples, got his enemies. Got his commandments. Was crucified and came back only to be burned to ashes but he just might be a phoenix. This is kind of sad... you guys spliting in to different religions, hating each other even though you share the same believes. Perhaps he might even share other names... Don't want to offend anyone by bringing religion in to it.. As a matter of fact I can't even...
Well, I think we can agree that there are really some CP haters and CP lovers at FF. Although I attacked him from time to time, I'm not one of these guys.

The reason for my attack is that
a) I either disagree and get pissed off by him or his believers.
b) I see that he's not honest with us believers and haters - see my post directed to Rapidscalper, a reply to that post is still pending ...

Without any doubts, CP surely understands the markets and thus he can be an idole. But on the other hand he is quite often rude to others and attacking them without any reason (for instance, see this and the subsequent posts where he attacked zznbrm without any reason).
  • #2,067
  • Jan 19, 2018 1:29pm Jan 19, 2018 1:29pm
As long as some of you up and coming ( and not so up and coming) traders Think and pursue the secret potion of trading from CP or any other self proclaimed forex guru --- well you are doomed. You must learn that there is no secret and there are no gurus, so called.

Its up to you completely --- You must be able to comprehend what works and what does not and be able to incorporate that into your understanding and build up from that. You must remain flexible to changes.

CP gave you the so called ingredients and the secrets == they are == start with the basics --- only trade with the trend. -- learn to identify the pull backs and enter with the trend --- counter trend trading only for the experienced..... sounds pretty simple to me -- but most will never adhere to the basics in a consistent manner. Look in the mirror for if you fallow the basic guide lines for some time you will learn a lot about yourself that you never knew existed. And with persistence things will start to appear that you never could see in the past. At this point you will realize what CP was trying to convey. At this point you will not care how CP is trading and you will have something to call your own. In some years you will be the new CP and you will say to yourself How in the fuck can I teach anybody how to trade profitlely and consistently.... minus all the physiological bull sh1t. It cant be done. But the CPs -- will draw the moths to the flame.

Regards
Live today like theres no tomorrow-- Prioritize like you will die today
  • #2,068
  • Jan 19, 2018 3:09pm Jan 19, 2018 3:09pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} I am pretty sure of "Once a Fool, Always a Fool" syndrome of returning back to FF. This Factory has to churn more Fools in order to maintain the business model and Red Flag Fools seem to be on their mission statement. {quote} And just to say it.... I recall turning RED FLAG member in a month or two posting crap. RED means just that... a warning sign that there are glorified idiots out here appearing as "Experienced FX Experts"... by design to churn page hit and Ad revenue.
am glad I don't have the red diamond yet!
  • #2,069
  • Edited Jan 20, 2018 5:31am Jan 19, 2018 4:06pm | Edited Jan 20, 2018 5:31am
Quoting rapidscalper
{quote} look at these people, they are desperate trying all kind of tricks to make CP posts..haha {quote} you are lying ? CP and I didnt see you on the last meeting. Let's meet again this weekend. Here is my info, so you can find me. My name's Daniel Luttrell, I have a fatty gf, i am a poor little kid, i made no money from trading, all the time i have is browsing forum to attack and to hate other people. I dislike a guy name CP meanwhile i am trying learn all shit from that guy and I am so jealous with the guy RS, he discovered the secret source...
Oh boy. You show the same habit as CP. It is not that I attacked him. I don't hate anybody. I just want that everybody can trust the knowledge he shared. And if CP isn't honest, why should one believe in his good nature? I just asked a simple question. If you had contact with CP then it's fine for me. If you are CP, it's fine, too. Then CP can reply and find an excuse why he broke his own rule.

Well, in regards to the picture. I don't know who that is and I think it's absolutely not fair to insult people on a photo that can't defend themselves ...

BTW: I don't need more of CP's posts. I'm already on the right track ...

Checkmate!
  • #2,070
  • Jan 19, 2018 5:40pm Jan 19, 2018 5:40pm
Quoting AntiCre
{quote} Well, I think we can agree that there are really some CP haters and CP lovers at FF.
Quoting MaxenshteinD
Well I guess one could compare CP to a messiah. He got believers, he got nonbelievers.
Or perhaps we can agree it is all in you mind

Lets face the facts. If you want to solve puzzles, there are 1000 better one out there. If you want to think about life, there are 1000 better ways to do it out there. If you want to talk about human psyche, there are 1000 more knowledgeable people out there. If you want to talk about trading, there are 1000 people out there with more experience, verifiable results and real profits.

CP is just one guy, in an insignificant thread, on insignificant forum, at an insignificant subject.

You come here, read this stuff because either you are lost or you are bored. It is all in your mind
  • #2,071
  • Jan 19, 2018 5:41pm Jan 19, 2018 5:41pm
Children... children. I don't know what is going on here nore do I care. But I can tell you with certainty that neither of you are getting any closer with those mindsets. You either get it or you don't.

I honestly think it's counterproductive for you to be trying to figure out CP's method. Develop your own and then come see if CP's method is a little clearer to you.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #2,072
  • Jan 20, 2018 4:31am Jan 20, 2018 4:31am
Quoting jdieieh
You come here, read this stuff because either you are lost or you are bored.
Just like you, I guess. Otherwise you wouldn't be here
  • #2,073
  • Jan 20, 2018 5:49am Jan 20, 2018 5:49am
Quoting AntiCre
{quote} Just like you, I guess. Otherwise you wouldn't be here
there is my guy

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  • #2,074
  • Jan 20, 2018 10:35pm Jan 20, 2018 10:35pm
Quoting Redeflect
Children... children. I don't know what is going on here nore do I care. But I can tell you with certainty that neither of you are getting any closer with those mindsets. You either get it or you don't. I honestly think it's counterproductive for you to be trying to figure out CP's method. Develop your own and then come see if CP's method is a little clearer to you.

You my friend are 100% correct. If CrucialPoint picked 20 traders & trained them to use his method at the end of 6
months there would be 2 left trading as he taught them & the other 18 would give up because they would have just had to add
indicators & anything else that came to mind to completely change what CrucialPoint had taught the. Time wasted on trying to
figure out CP's method would be better spent doing just what you suggested "Develop your own & then come see if CP's method is a
little clearer to YOU." Great advice.

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  • #2,075
  • Jan 21, 2018 3:16am Jan 21, 2018 3:16am
It is very interesting. How do you capture some of the range?

The DNA of the Market - Social Community
  • #2,076
  • Jan 21, 2018 7:01am Jan 21, 2018 7:01am
Hi, dimensional Guys.
Is there any dimension, which has two directions, one direction goes 58% and the other 42%?
Or Am I in error dimension?
  • #2,077
  • Jan 21, 2018 9:38am Jan 21, 2018 9:38am
Quoting !iii!
..., but HE is NOT the edge.
Wonderful, now that the social unrest has dissipated after CP's false flag alarm (well played, indeed, CP...) and the circle is closed with everybody re-affirming each other, that each one of us wonderful individuals IS the edge as long as we try hard enough, we can hopefully re-focus on substantiating the magic of or at least demystifying CP's tools.

Some disclaimers: CP and I are not associated. I'm completely neutral as to who CP is and to his theories. I do not pretend knowing his approach, nor will I ever. I'm trying to decipher his posted charts in conjunction with his hints, which he obviously feels compelled to drop into the FF public domain over the years. Whilst I am interested to discuss the fabric of his tools, I have no interest to sell or otherwise make my findings available for commercial purposes. I hope there are other like minded people.

Some analogy: I doubt there are many reliable airlines out there letting their pilots fly in discretionary mode nor to configure the cockpits and gauges according to subjective likes. There are hard protocols that ensure the reaching of the target destination (>95%...) for most thermodynamic situations and no matter the sensitivities, instincts or daily form of the pilot. The pilot is a super user, but NOT the edge to reach the destination (with the exception of some very rare fat tail events) -... and there are probably few pilots nowadays who invented flying or the airplane, either.
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  • #2,078
  • Jan 22, 2018 2:06am Jan 22, 2018 2:06am
I'm building a raw prototype - i.e. no saving of ticks and offline charts, just indicators streaming ticks and visualizing stuff on the go.

Comparing a 2 point range with a 1 second bar chart. The 3 simple MA are equivalent to 1min, 5min and 30min periods on the time bar chart.

Unless the edge is somewhere between comparing time based averages (or its derivatives) with tick streams, I prefer range bars.
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  • #2,079
  • Edited 3:53am Jan 22, 2018 3:41am | Edited 3:53am
Quoting IenDzi
Hi, dimensional Guys. Is there any dimension, which has two directions, one direction goes 58% and the other 42%? Or Am I in error dimension?
Yes... and I can only imagine how confused you'd be if we were discussing temporal coordinates.

Oh, wait.. we basically are.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #2,080
  • Jan 22, 2018 8:06am Jan 22, 2018 8:06am
Finally I got, why I need those dimensions. I needed much time to think how to get that, that 6D scared me out, when I watched a video about dimensions, how to visualize them, after 4D I didn't understand anything, whats happening there. So I was overcomplicated it from the start. I didn't know how to code it, and my code was overcomplicated, and now I can simplify it. And when you simplify it, it seems nothing so complicate at all.
And I think I got that Joker dimension, which CP was told about. And what I understand now, that I was there so many times.
How to trade this, I don't know yet, need to do more testing and think about it.
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