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  • #3,961
  • Jan 17, 2018 10:18am Jan 17, 2018 10:18am
Quoting Hcde
Hi everyone. I saw several posts here from RTM detractors claiming that RTM team had faked some trade tracker records. Can anyone provide any serious proof of that? It leads me to an other question. How is it possible to post ten times an accusation of faking Something, without adding the proof to the message, and not being moderated? Thanks
You have the right to like one thing or to not.I'm not saying now that you just registered in FF just to support that rtm thing as it doesnt matter at all.but as you ask some to show proof that is fake as they claim,can you show your proof that is not as you claim?
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #3,962
  • Jan 17, 2018 10:49am Jan 17, 2018 10:49am
For the record, I've personally never claimed that "IF" is a fake, a scam, or a legend.

And to be honest, I'm pretty disgusted at the hate, bullying & vitriol that has been spouted by both sides of this argument. And yes, I have to put my own hand up to some of that, and for that I apologize.

The facts of the matter are:

1) IF's postings on FF are in complete contradiction to the ideologies in his "manifesto".....
2) Not least of which is that education should be free (but is most pertinent to this discussion)
3) He does not trade the markets but...
4) Will teach you, for 15,000 Euro / year how to do what he can't and...
5) Will create an army of students who will...
6) Be so amazingly successful at doing what he can't do himself that they will....
7) Be able to manipulate a multi trillion dollar market so that they can....
8) Create a New World Order

If you're happy with all of the above, then feel free to hand over your hard earned dollars and good luck on your journey.

But I challenge anyone to dispute the above facts.
  • #3,963
  • Edited 3:12pm Jan 17, 2018 10:52am | Edited 3:12pm
Quoting Hcde
Hi everyone. I saw several posts here from RTM detractors claiming that RTM team had faked some trade tracker records. Can anyone provide any serious proof of that? It leads me to an other question. How is it possible to post ten times an accusation of faking Something, without adding the proof to the message, and not being moderated? Thanks
take a look to the statements.

as a member of this rtm you are already teached the basics?
so learning how to read statements, knowing basics in tading, knowing how someone can detect fakes,..... all this is already teached you, or what did you do all the time in rtm?
if you cant see this for your own, then ask to each what you cant understand.

but really, then dont defend anything you learned there until they did you not let you trade anything until now. because when you dont know the basics trading is extrem risky. i hope you can understand what i want to say you with this.
  • #3,964
  • Jan 17, 2018 3:08pm Jan 17, 2018 3:08pm
Quoting redoktober
about scammer Ifmyante "
You guys are doing a great job hunting scammers..... thank you all!
  • #3,965
  • Edited 5:39pm Jan 17, 2018 5:12pm | Edited 5:39pm
Hi Hcde and anyone else tempted to 'invest' in 'FX education'

As I mentioned in a previous post, you can't and shouldn't be asked to prove a negative. You shouldn't have to prove that someone can't trade or that their teachings are of no value. It is up to those who want your money to prove that the value is really there by being prepared to demonstrate verifiable results. As a rule of thumb no one should even contemplate FX Education from any provider without them being happy and willing to show their bona fides.

It is a very unpleasant experience to be duped but the reality is it exists in all walks of life. If you've been had by a scammer it is extremely unlikely that any amount of berating will get your money back. Entitlement seems to go with dishonesty. Scammers believe they are entitled to your money. So if it is possible, I would suggest that you put your loss down to one of life's lessons. You will survive the experience and will be the wiser for it.

This site is very important because dishonesty is a major element of this industry. Outing those who would exploit the vulnerable is a noble and giving act. But let's be vigilant and sober in our response to it.
With wisdom comes humility. With humility comes wisdom!
  • #3,966
  • Jan 18, 2018 2:57am Jan 18, 2018 2:57am
Quoting HudithePfupf
{quote} You guys are doing a great job hunting scammers..... thank you all!
Thank you Hudi ,
yes , now the this Forum is a cleaner place.
  • #3,967
  • Edited 11:07am Jan 18, 2018 2:58am | Edited 11:07am
The wiseacre Ifmyante seems to have disappeared from this Forum, finally:
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Perhaps he is offended, perhaps we simple FF members are not worthy of him...
Ok, he will continue to sell smoke on his RTM site.
Good luck to his eventual members, they will need it.
  • #3,968
  • Jan 18, 2018 6:34am Jan 18, 2018 6:34am
Quoting redoktober
The wiseacre Ifmyante seems to have disappeared from this Forum, finally: {image} Perhaps he is offended, perhaps we simple FF members are not worthy of him... Ok, he will continue to sell smoke on his RTM site. Good luck to his eventual members, they will need it.
i think he will start to create new accounts with different names to start to look here what happens and to write positive about RTM here and there.
  • #3,969
  • Jan 18, 2018 8:34am Jan 18, 2018 8:34am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i think he will start to create new accounts with different names to start to look here what happens and to write positive about RTM here and there.
Good !And we'll be here waiting for him.
  • #3,970
  • Jan 18, 2018 8:40am Jan 18, 2018 8:40am
Well , this is the photo that Ifmyante has put on Investing.com :
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And this is the age he declared on his FF profile:
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Since this hairy guy can not be 44 years old, there are 2 cases:
either Ifmyante put a fake photo, or he is not 44 years old.
In any case, he is a liar.
  • #3,971
  • Jan 18, 2018 9:55am Jan 18, 2018 9:55am
Quoting redoktober
Well , this is the photo that Ifmyante has put on Investing.com : {image} And this is the age he declared on his FF profile: {image} Since this hairy guy can not be 44 years old, there are 2 cases: either Ifmyante put a fake photo, or he is not 44 years old. In any case, he is a liar.
i dont think he is putting in a real picture, but it could be and people can look extrem older and younger then they are, so this is not saying anything about true or false.
you look how you care about you, how you eat, make sport, are satisfied with yourself, genetic, stress, family,....... many things will decide about this.
  • #3,972
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:02am Jan 18, 2018 10:02am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i dont think he is putting in a real picture, but it could be and people can look extrem older and younger then they are, so this is not saying anything about true or false. you look how you care about you, how you eat, make sport, are satisfied with yourself, genetic, stress, family,....... many things will decide about this.
Ok Dukas . Sport , genetic , family , all that you want... BUT the above boy can not be 44 years old.
PS : to me, he seems DiCaprio...
  • #3,973
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:09am Jan 18, 2018 10:09am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Ok Dukas . Sport , genetic , family , all that you want... BUT the above boy can not be 44 years old. PS : to me, he seems DiCaprio...
hmm, i would guess him about 33-40 from the picture. but its really difficult, with long hair even more. why you think he cant?
  • #3,974
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:28am Jan 18, 2018 10:28am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Ok Dukas . Sport , genetic , family , all that you want... BUT the above boy can not be 44 years old. PS : to me, he seems DiCaprio...
I have 41 and I look younger
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #3,975
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:36am Jan 18, 2018 10:36am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} I have 41 and I look younger
lucky you !
  • #3,976
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:37am Jan 18, 2018 10:37am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} hmm, i would guess him about 33-40 from the picture. but its really difficult, with long hair even more. why you think he cant?
I think so, you not, no problem.
Every FF member will can judge with his eyes. Anyway , these my last posts were almost a joke, a provocation to demonstrate that even in these small things Ifmyante is not sincere.
  • #3,977
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:39am Jan 18, 2018 10:39am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} I think so, you not, no problem. Every FF member will can judge with his eyes. Anyway , these my last posts were almost a joke, a provocation to demonstrate that even in these small things Ifmyante is not sincere.
ok. but age is really extrem difficult to guess. i had never someone guessing me correct. so about this topic i would not say he is a liar, because its not possible to say with a very high chance.
  • #3,978
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:48am Jan 18, 2018 10:48am
Well , now let's talk about more serious things .

From FPA , here are some reviews about RTM , the Ifmyante's academy :

" Not good.
They built up a free site using other peoples knowledge and encouraging everyone to help each other and built a community. Once the numbers were big enough they shut us out and asked for a fee.
Very poor way of doing things and there's nothing new there.
Aus1way,
Manchester, United Kingdom.

I read such positive reviews and just now (2-13-2017) I visited the readthemarket.com - the free stuff is not available at all.
Links to site sections REAL EDUCATION and TRADING COMMUNITY are dead.
I try to register – exceedingly complicated registration process, indicative:
“Please download the Non Disclosure Agreement NDA, sign and send it back to the NDA upload section. Name , Full Address, and Signature required.”
and at end mast to pay $875. No free stuff at all.
Seems to follow the pathway of many known “gurus”, “educators” usual scams.
Indicative to this conclusion is such radical change of site philosophy - is the same person steel in charge?
Disappointing behavior. Hope in future some improvements will take place to justify such positive reviews.
Vadis,
Athens, Greece.

RTM- not worth the money.
Not worth the money they are asking now. If you break it down, it is all supply and demand. They act like they have a special way of doing it. The info is not organized either. Just like all the other supposed gurus, charging now.
Feb 14, 2017 - 1 Star Rip off. Now charge a fortune. Not worth what they charge.
It is all supply and demand. You can find this stuff for free.
EdBeg,
NY, USA.

Stay away, not worth!
Keep following the guru and the masters who know everything about the market.
Only they have the truth and found the secret key to explain every turn in price.
It was fun when at the beginning but now it is clearly a scam operation to take your money.
Manuel Rogge,
Berlin, Germany. "

Of course there are also positive reviews , but guess who wrote them ?
  • #3,979
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:53am Jan 18, 2018 10:53am
Quoting redoktober
Well , now let's talk about more serious things . From FPA , here are some reviews about RTM , the Ifmyante's academy : " Not good. They built up a free site using other peoples knowledge and encouraging everyone to help each other and built a community. Once the numbers were big enough they shut us out and asked for a fee. Very poor way of doing things and there's nothing new there. Aus1way, Manchester, United Kingdom. I read such positive reviews and just now (2-13-2017) I visited the readthemarket.com - the free stuff is not available at all....
LOL this start to look like an MLM ponzi scheme.
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #3,980
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:53am Jan 18, 2018 10:53am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Ok Dukas . Sport , genetic , family , all that you want... BUT the above boy can not be 44 years old. PS : to me, he seems DiCaprio...
To me he seems like naively looking with starry eyes to the distance with the hope to make the world a better place This is his picture, but an old one I guess.
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