OrderFlowTrading.com - The truth behind Darkstars latest offer

Funnily enough I am not on his mailing list anymore :-)

Redbaron,

Thank you for your response. Don't worry - you're not missing anything

Anyway, I got another one today. Apparently we've called him out! He's actually using his real name! Here's what I got today:



Hey friend! It's me again.
Listen, the U.S. Treasury needs an additional 3B bid in next months auction.
Terms from 4-week out to 30-yr.
You raised your hand in the call for traders so I figured I'd ask how much interest there is on your side.
Reply email if you want to discuss further.

Will Carmen
D.S. Goldsmith, Llc

I don't recall "raising my hand" for Carmen's latest scam, but whatever...

Redbaron1981 or others in this thread, I have skimmed over this post, looking for an alternative education program for trading, I have been reading indicators and price actions ebooks, but there seems to be missing some elements. I am new at this and can see indicators and price action doesn't explain random spikes or surges of price movement (I can only guess there are big money banks/hedges working in the background). I haven't seen any other suggestions for training in this thread (other than Jarratt), what do you suggest or what trading materials do you suggest for trading education? Price action books and indicator books all have the same more or less explanation. I am looking for an all around education, something that not just price action or indicators, but can include such.. Trading as I understand it is a journey, but it doesn't have to be too painful Kind regards.

I like 'A Three Dimensional Approach To Forex Trading' - it has a beginner friendly overview of fundamental + intermarket analysis. It also has some stuff on technicals via volume spread analysis, but I didn't pay attention to that (not to say that it doesn't work).

You can try "Bird Watching in Lion's Country" and "Foreign Exchange Matrix". These books are not really for beginner, but are useful in helping you understand themes/conditions in the market. If you find the content too advance, come back to them after a few years.

I found the books more useful in improving your trading, once you can trade, or that something that acts as a tipping point in your own trading. My personal insight is a question: Out of so many themes/conditions that seems to be driving the market right now, how do you determine the actual themes/conditions that the market is really interested in and in which timeframe? Knowing the answer to this makes price action/technical analysis so much easier to use.

Oh and Chapter 8 of "Reminiscences of a Stock Operator" is an interesting read as well.

I'm still on the OFT mailing list as I was one of the ones to get the book when it was first launched and join the first forum/trading room. Anyway I left trading all together a few years ago so I've simply been reading the emails I get sent with amusement just to see what the latest thing is.

But there was one from the beginning of January from a "Will Carmen", declared to be one of the many "program graduates" who trades for "D.S. Goldsmith". Of course, Will Carmen is "Daemon Goldsmith" aka Darkstar, which is something I've known since before he ever started mentoring and was still the most revered member here on FF. I don't know whether he tries to keep his real name secret or not, I mean he uses the pseudonym "Daemon Goldsmith" which is fair enough, but then to use his real name (and images in the emails) to pretend to be someone different who graduated the course and is living the high life? Seems very deceitful.

But he posts pics of himself, and anyone who knows what DS looks like knows that's him (hell, he has a pic of himself on his profile here), so in a way it's like he's not trying to pretend it's anyone other than him, but then does exactly that by pretending to be a program graduate? I don't get it.


------------------------------Another Order Flow Success Story---------------------------------------

I wanted to forward this over to you. It's written by one of our many program graduates and while every trader is unique, I think you'll find his results interesting...

A brief history of my Order Flow Trading

Hello Trader,
My name is Will Carmen, I trade for D.S. Goldsmith, and I began the study of markets for fun and profit .
Over the years I’ve uncovered several repeating anomalies that can be exploited for both, and have done my best to share the insights uncovered with those most interested.

In terms of a quantifiable widget, order flow is essentially a collection of completed actions representing the purchase/sale of products.
Public markets are useful as a data analysis platform because the structured product characteristics allows one to focus on the motivations behind the execution decision.

Let me be clear: There is a great deal of insight in that data.

Success in markets and in life has a surprisingly high correlation with the development of self, and for the last several years I’ve applied the principles of Order Flow Trading to a wide range of disciplines and saw enormous success.
Over and over again.
Real money.

Now my best friend and I have embarked on a new adventure…
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Which all began with the Great Solar Conjunction of 2017:
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One of the best things about being a trader is the freedom it affords to go off and do fun things.
After training at the Order Flow Trading Academy, I used the principles discussed to generate the profits needed for TraderMiyu and I to travel all across America, which landed us in St Louis, Missouri in late August for the Total Solar Eclipse.
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See my furry friend and I love cosmic events and how it gets you thinking about the vastness of our universe and how tiny we all are in retrospect.
To think that this event only occurs because of the seemingly random yet not fact that the sun is both 400 times larger than and 400 times farther away from us than the moon, and that Similar solar and lunar eclipses recur every 6,585.3 days (18 years, 11 days, 8 hours), but only for a few hundred more years (because the moon is moving away from us all the time).

Let's just say it's a fantastic and beautiful reminder of the magic occurring around us right here and right now; every second of our lives ticking away...

Learning how to trade via the Order Flow Trading Academy allowed my friend and I to experience this incredibly rare phenomena in the most perfect way!

The best place to experience the event is a small town in De Soto, MO where totality lasts for a full 2:40.
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The town is beautiful, the people are great, and it was a truly awe inspiring experience:
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The best part? THIS IS WORK!
My current role calls for the trading of Reg S/144a securities with qualified institutional buyers like banks and insurance companies. It's very rewarding and I'm actually required to travel to amazing places to meet with truly interesting people, which is exactly what I always wanted!
And it would never have been possible without my experience at the Order Flow Trading Academy.

Now look, I believe you want me to tell you the truth and I need to mention that it’s not easy to get started as a trader. You’ll make many mistakes and some of them will be costly. The Order Flow Trading Academy offers a package of resources that I know will make it easier for you and I would encourage you to take full advantage of that opportunity here: https://cart.orderflowtrading.com
But even if you don’t just let me say…

Mastering the art of order flow trading is definitely worth what it cost me.

I know you’ll feel the same.

Trade well.
Will Carmen

PS: 77xI. 3
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Yeah, I also got his book and went through his first OF training program.

Still getting his emails. I think my account on his site was wiped, and I couldn't be bothered to make a new one.

It's kinda sad really.
You know something isn't right when they start selling the lifestyle thing.

Hi Red, maybe you have a table of contents of Darkstar's course, please?

I am curious what is inside.

Thank you.