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Trading Institutional Order Flow

#5,381
Dec 18, 2017 5:09am Dec 18, 2017 5:09am

CarlosNL
| Joined Dec 2017 | Status: Trader | 46 Posts

Quoting Blasterh22

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{quote} https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...11#post9739911

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Thanks!

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#5,382
Dec 18, 2017 8:52am Dec 18, 2017 8:52am

Gerardo96
| Joined Dec 2017 | Status: Trader | 6 Posts

Hello I find my self really struggling with trend so I have USDJPY on a daily and have drew out what I think I still don't know if its correct because according to your Back to Basics video it cant be considered a dow trend unless it breaks that low so can you please help am I close?

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#5,383
Dec 18, 2017 9:26am Dec 18, 2017 9:26am

Gerardo96
| Joined Dec 2017 | Status: Trader | 6 Posts

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Hello everyone, A trade on EURJPY...before and after best wishes {image}{image}

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for this chart you picked that supply zone because it was high on the curve and also the supply zone was only considered a strong zone because it removed a demand zone correct?

#5,384
Dec 18, 2017 9:31am Dec 18, 2017 9:31am

Gerardo96
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Hello everyone EURAUD....before and after best wishes{image}{image}

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can you please explaindont get this trade at all. I Get your weekly for curve but your daily for trend how is that a downtrend? and then the zone in your low time frame completely confused here can you help? I was introduced to SAD from OTA and they teach that if high on the curve and the trend is up then you go to your big picture supply on your trading timeframe and look for a zone and if the trend is down and high on the curve then follow trend in your trades are you following the same criteria?

#5,385
Dec 18, 2017 12:22pm Dec 18, 2017 12:22pm

BogdanM.ua
| Joined Jun 2017 | Status: Trader | 95 Posts

[Цитата=Gerardo96;10601257]Привіт я вважаю себе дійсно бореться з тенденцією, тому у мене є пара usdjpy на денному і вийняв те, що я досі не знаю, якщо його правильно, тому що по спині до основ відео-це не може вважатися ДОУ тренд, якщо він рветься, що низький, так що ви можете, будь ласка, допомогти мені закрити? {зображення}[/Цитата]

Привіт Gerardo96. Моя думка по лінії тренда

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#5,386
Dec 18, 2017 1:50pm Dec 18, 2017 1:50pm

foxtrader16
| Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Be brave, be courageous, be prudent | 492 Posts

Quoting BogdanM.ua

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[Цитата=Gerardo96;10601257]Привіт я вважаю себе дійсно бореться з тенденцією, тому у мене є пара usdjpy на денному і вийняв...

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I concur Bogdan.

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#5,387
Dec 18, 2017 8:31pm Dec 18, 2017 8:31pm

Akt
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Hi Michael or Akt? :-) first of all thank you for your time last night and giving us insights of supply and demand. Here is my analysis for EURCAD. So I would wait until price reaches the 4hour supply zone thats in a daily supply zone to go short. is my analysis correct so far? Daily {image} 4 hr {image} cheers Cervantes

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Hello Cervantes.
You are very welcome. Glad you found the information useful.

Regarding your question, that is one way of trading that level for sure but as you know, there will be other things to assess before deciding on taking the trade, for example the quality of the zones up there.

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

#5,388
Dec 18, 2017 8:43pm Dec 18, 2017 8:43pm

Akt
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Hey Michael, Regarding my question during the yesterday's webinar about correlations, 1. I understood from your explanation that when trading the majors I can look at the DXY because they include the dollar. However, when trading the minors, say EURGBP, I care only about the pair and nothing else. Is my understanding correct? 2. Say I look at TATA Motors and NIFTY. The same rules will apply as if it was EURUSD and DXY because I want one to be stronger and the other to be weak, correct? E.g.: EURUSD (TATA M.) at supply and DXY (NIFTY) at demand =...

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Hello Papabless

1. Yes. If one is trading the economy of the euro area versus the british economy it may complicate things looking at what the economy of the US is doing. That information may be a "nice to know" but in my own trading it is not a "must know". Others i am sure will be different

2. If my understanding is correct, the Nifty is the indian index and TATA motors is a stock within that index. If that premise is correct then No, is the answer to your question. With stocks one may be better off looking for a stock that is in line with the broader market rather than against it.

3. I don't trade indian stocks but yes, it is possible i used it as an example at some point. There are several resources on the internet regarding intermarket relationships. Not every market has an index though. You do have markets that are often correlated but correlations are not 100%, as you know, noting is. So there are correlations for example between oil and the USDCAD or the CADJPY; between gold and the commodity currencies AUDUSD and NZDUSD etc

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

#5,389
Dec 18, 2017 8:47pm Dec 18, 2017 8:47pm

Akt
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{quote} And your initial TP is around 1.523 where WK demand is?

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Hello isaacpeh
One can take profit targets as the market reaches set prices which has already happened in this trade.
No, the final profit target is not that far down.

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

#5,390
Dec 18, 2017 8:53pm Dec 18, 2017 8:53pm

live4x
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Oh this thread is a goldmine.... will take time to go through fully....

Thanks.

#5,391
Dec 18, 2017 8:59pm Dec 18, 2017 8:59pm

Akt
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Hello I find my self really struggling with trend so I have USDJPY on a daily and have drew out what I think I still don't know if its correct because according to your Back to Basics video it cant be considered a dow trend unless it breaks that low so can you please help am I close? {image}

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Hello Gerardo96
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you.

I don;t recall going over the trend of this market in a back to basics video.
If i did i would have probably said something along the lines of "we do not use momentum lines to define trend".

Trend within the way i apply the S.A.D methodology is defined by the inter-relationship between the supply and demand levels
So when supply zones are being created and respected and demand zones are being removed we have a downtrend and opposite for an uptrend, demand zones are the ones being created and respected in that instance.

best wishes

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#5,392
Dec 18, 2017 9:02pm Dec 18, 2017 9:02pm

Akt
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Quoting Gerardo96

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{quote} for this chart you picked that supply zone because it was high on the curve and also the supply zone was only considered a strong zone because it removed a demand zone correct?

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Hello Gerardo96
The zone was used because it met the minimum set of quality requirements i look at, including but not only the factors you speak of.

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

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Dec 18, 2017 9:12pm Dec 18, 2017 9:12pm

Akt
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Quoting Gerardo96

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{quote} can you please explaindont get this trade at all. I Get your weekly for curve but your daily for trend how is that a downtrend? and then the zone in your low time frame completely confused here can you help? I was introduced to SAD from OTA and they teach that if high on the curve and the trend is up then you go to your big picture supply on your trading timeframe and look for a zone and if the trend is down and high on the curve then follow trend in your trades are you following the same criteria?

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Hello Gerardo96
I just took a look at the chart i posted. I don't see anywhere on there where the daily trend was identified as down.
The annotation reads "daily chart entry". If i recall, one of the entries was taken off the new daily supply that was created at the time, as shown on the daily chart. However, there were other entries within that level on the 4hr chart which was not posted on this platform
Going from the explanation given above about trend using the USDJPY, the trend was sideways at the time because supply was being created and we had not fulfilled the criteria for a downtrend.

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

#5,394
Dec 18, 2017 9:14pm Dec 18, 2017 9:14pm

Gerardo96
| Joined Dec 2017 | Status: Trader | 6 Posts

Quoting Akt

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{quote} Hello Gerardo96 Welcome to T.I.O.F Good to meet you. I don;t recall going over the trend of this market in a back to basics video. If i did i would have probably said something along the lines of "we do not use momentum lines to define trend". Trend within the way i apply the S.A.D methodology is defined by the inter-relationship between the supply and demand levels So when supply zones are being created and respected and demand zones are being removed we have a downtrend and opposite for an uptrend, demand zones are the ones being created...

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Hello thank you for replying and your explanation it is making since but would you mind showing me examples of both trends if possible please?

#5,395
Dec 18, 2017 9:15pm Dec 18, 2017 9:15pm

Akt
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Oh this thread is a goldmine.... will take time to go through fully.... Thanks.

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Hello live4x
Good to meet you and welcome to T.I.O.F
Pleased you find the information on the thread useful.
We look forward to your contributions

Welcome

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon