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  • #961
  • Dec 13, 2017 8:17pm Dec 13, 2017 8:17pm
Quoting jenbols
this pin was a bit unusual it don't open trades for some times and then suddenly explodes ... {image}
I see you talk about profit locker pin or take profit pin or whatever in some of your post, but the button line that I am talking about is an independent indicator (PIN) that can secure one's $$$$, cause often times, the Eas lock profit do fail

So, which profit lock are you using?

Sam2x suggestion or that of the community are all welcome, please.
  • #962
  • Dec 13, 2017 10:30pm Dec 13, 2017 10:30pm
Quoting tillionaire
{quote} Very nice, congrats! Could you please post its set file for me to also test it. Thank you
in the screenshot, all the settings of the pin, what else is needed?
  • #963
  • Dec 14, 2017 4:47am Dec 14, 2017 4:47am
Quoting Ican2020
{quote} I see you talk about profit locker pin or take profit pin or whatever in some of your post, but the button line that I am talking about is an independent indicator (PIN) that can secure one's $$$$, cause often times, the Eas lock profit do fail So, which profit lock are you using? Sam2x suggestion or that of the community are all welcome, please.
this is the only trailing pin that was made on FF, iam not sure how useful can be
but anyway here it is _ Post 4,673
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  • #964
  • Dec 14, 2017 4:52am Dec 14, 2017 4:52am
Hello Sam. Can you make a pin for the price movement prediction indicator?
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  • #965
  • Dec 14, 2017 5:27am Dec 14, 2017 5:27am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} As the most convenient way is solve the problem using your tools maybe you have play with % change tool and MA. But you must be imaginative and not make the typical mix of both. But really we wrong about flat market make the losses after I tried solve issues in my systems. Really flat markets are the best moment for place the trade. The issue is about direction probabilities...
I Was looking at ranges yesterday and reminded me of your post
what is needed is detection of when a Range is about to start and about to end
this could be based on a system not opening trades when there are dead time with low volume transactions
and the system or pin should not allow or place any trade during that time
Another variable should be adding something similar to the bollinger bands
which can detect when major changes are happening and guess the probability direction as you mentioned
trying to make pips during ranges I find it very hard and the only way would be on 15 minutes charts or less
but i think not worthy the effort as i see low volume is for me low enthusiasm in looking at charts
Another way should be put off system by 6/7pm Gmt
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  • #966
  • Dec 14, 2017 5:41am Dec 14, 2017 5:41am
Quoting jenbols
{quote} I Was looking at ranges yesterday and reminded me of your post what is needed is detection of when a Range is about to start and about to end this could be based on a system not opening trades when there are dead time with low volume transactions and the system or pin should not allow or place any trade during that time Another variable should be adding something similar to the bollinger bands which can detect when major changes are happening and guess the probability direction as you mentioned trying to make pips during ranges I find it...
Really I talked about place entry in flat market enough near next trend movement ( breakout ) will happen. Any trade after flat market end can fall in a fake movement. Normally all systems fall in that first movement trap thinking is real movement. This is more common in continuation trend movements. Every"small pullback" is enough strong for lie to systems. Then you cant use a lag tool. You need system align itself in natural way...

If you have a good mix alignment in system it will take the right trade if you can delay entry enough to be closer to breakout. At least is I'm having. As closer to consolidation area begin is trade placed more bad will be trade in the future...
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  • #967
  • Dec 14, 2017 6:30am Dec 14, 2017 6:30am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote}.Normally all systems fall in that first movement trap thinking is real movement. This is more common in continuation trend movements. Every"small pullback" is enough strong for lie to systems..
I like this word lie to system_
What is needed then is like a Buffer, a Zone an Area after Range market which will determine first
how the first candles (After the End of Range) will behave.. but that too should be Mtf and I can only
think of Css in that case_ but it needs be adjusted to those conditions_ I know Css it is not repainting Mtf
but mt4 is not very friendly for you, so hopefully on mt5 we will have more surprises .
.. when mt5 will be fully used of course,,,, in a few years .. or months ?
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  • #968
  • Dec 14, 2017 6:37am Dec 14, 2017 6:37am
Quoting jenbols
{quote} I like this word lie to system_ What is needed then is like a Buffer, a Zone an Area after Range market which will determine first how the first candles (After the End of Range) will behave.. but that too should be Mtf and I can only think of Css in that case_ but it needs be adjusted to those conditions_ I know Css it is not repainting Mtf but mt4 is not very friendly for you, so hopefully on mt5 we will have more surprises . .. when mt5 will be fully used of course,,,, in a few years .. or months ?
you know thats impossible right?
and this is why ,because everything comes into the right side is BLACK.even so called non repaint indicators cant tell you or prepare you for whats coming.only MM will save you in the end.
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  • #969
  • Edited 7:43am Dec 14, 2017 6:54am | Edited 7:43am
Quoting jenbols
{quote} I like this word lie to system_ What is needed then is like a Buffer, a Zone an Area after Range market which will determine first how the first candles (After the End of Range) will behave.. but that too should be Mtf and I can only think of Css in that case_ but it needs be adjusted to those conditions_ I know Css it is not repainting Mtf but mt4 is not very friendly for you, so hopefully on mt5 we will have more surprises . .. when mt5 will be fully used of course,,,, in a few years .. or months ?
No. Im not talking about add more tools. You have a good example in one of your laptops. But looks you are spending so much time in do tests without sense. You check your TEs, get a very bad trade and very good trade ( last week better ) and check it in chart. You will see the difference in how tools are aligned when trade was taken and when real movement happend. Its something about how "curves" were drawed...

Quoting Husky77
{quote} you know thats impossible right? and this is why ,because everything comes into the right side is BLACK.even so called non repaint indicators cant tell you or prepare you for whats coming.only MM will save you in the end. {image}
MM is nothing. If system place bad trades in average you will get losses. The only magic rule is place trades in the right place. Auto systems have a win ratio around 50%/60%. And average loss by trade is normally bigger. Then that are a lot of bad trades and losses...

Then if you can take all good movements at least try dont catch all wrong. That can be done reducing number of trades per week

PD: You remember we are talking about auto systems. They dont know what means MM...
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  • #970
  • Dec 14, 2017 7:45am Dec 14, 2017 7:45am
Quoting jenbols
{quote} this is the only trailing pin that was made on FF, iam not sure how useful can be but anyway here it is _ Post 4,673 {image}
Wow, one of my old PINS back to haunt us! I think the last one on FF was 1.00 which was had some bugs on trailing certain pairs. Here was the last version i made, which addresses the know issues.

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  • #971
  • Dec 14, 2017 7:51am Dec 14, 2017 7:51am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote}MM is nothing. If system place bad trades in average you will get losses. The only magic rule is place trades in the right place. Auto systems have a win ratio around 50%/60%. And average loss by trade is normally bigger. Then that are a lot of bad trades and losses... Then if you can take all good movements at least try dont catch all wrong. That can be done reducing number of trades per week PD: You remember we are talking about auto systems. They dont know what means MM...
i was saying refering to the fact on how we can predict a range or anything may come based on past and present candle behaviour.is impossible to predict anything.all we do is trying to guess and market may do or not what we guess.simple.my auto knows very well my MM rule cos is there.
example here about the ''black'' side of the market who will ALWAYS be black.
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  • #972
  • Dec 14, 2017 7:57am Dec 14, 2017 7:57am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} i was saying refering to the fact on how we can predict a range or anything may come based on past and present candle behaviour.is impossible to predict anything.all we do is trying to guess and market may do or not what we guess.simple.my auto knows very well my MM rule cos is there. example here about the ''black'' side of the market who will ALWAYS be black. {image} {image}
A range market is always about past. Never about future. Then you can't predict when will happens the breakout but you always will know when you are in a consolidation area. And that exact word its enough for 'predict" the future...
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  • #973
  • Edited 9:35am Dec 14, 2017 8:01am | Edited 9:35am
today was a bad day for pin bidratio D1
from 7 am gmt 1 at now 3 pm
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  • #974
  • Dec 14, 2017 8:38am Dec 14, 2017 8:38am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} A range market is always about past. Never about future. Then you can't predict when will happens the breakout but you always will know when you are in a consolidation area. And that exact word its enough for 'predict" the future...
In Auto is hard yes and I don't have tools for it or maybe there are tools and i don't know about it yet,
The Not-Auto "Chart Watching with levels" as i remind before, it is more relaxing and there is more time to see what happens_
Simple indicators that signal when breakout of range happens are there, but of course is never sure 101%_
The Non-Auto system i use is simply made with Ma's, Pivots, DWM Supp Res, that's all_
Your SnR and the BD-Bid Ratio have also helped if we talk about Auto i showed you how it recovered my Live Account from last year_
and if we talk about the Not-Auto then it is better than the Auto if used how i feel_

Pins are a way for me to learn many things, and slowly i reduce the amount of pins tested after i know
which one is good for me. Trough application of Pins i learn a lot and it is not about results, but the way the Pin it is managed
and the way I want to use it according to what i like _
The Thing is i don't live of Forex and i spend some time more with Non-Auto/Charts
The Eax Auto Run Pins, only takes some time to sort them out , they run alone and i stop them after a certain time
I have 7 basic concepts i like to see in a Pin and i try to see where this concept display and in which Pin ....
i know i am a different level from you BtB, and for a master like you seeing what i do, you must feel like
i am going in wrong direction, but i need to go trough stages of risking to go wrong and right, and wrong again and wasting time
until one day most things will be clear. Stages and Steps are needed to know where we go and what to improve and what to delete
from our way of thinking. and i cannot overcome stages, i need to go slow_
But was good to see with you new things
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  • #975
  • Dec 14, 2017 8:42am Dec 14, 2017 8:42am
Quoting jagzuk
{quote} Wow, one of my old PINS back to haunt us! I think the last one on FF was 1.00 which was had some bugs on trailing certain pairs. Here was the last version i made, which addresses the know issues. {file}
Nice t see you on here
wonder where you had been , thanx for this_
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  • #976
  • Dec 14, 2017 8:44am Dec 14, 2017 8:44am
Hi , ive been testing From yestarday at 11m London time a few indicators and mix , just like to report in case does help some one ,
Target to not reach open the market like japan or ny or london , any time to entry , meaning just setup on any time if the pin is good they will work in any time

pins to entry 1 - 2- 3
3 level zz 15-30-60 m
tdi to match the entry
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pins to entry 4 -5 -6
Harmonic 15-30-60

pins for close or reverse

3 level zz on 15-30-60 m

Sam still have some faith the FQ-tbs indicator can become a pin , i will put on my cristhmas list

balance 190 yestarday closing time at 14:35 10:40

i do have only one close position from eur cad with proffit of 2,46 or the rest is been closed from autmoatic

i reach high as 75 plus and blow up as 180 (demo )
ive been using between 0.10 0.05

almost every point is get on 75% proffit then reverse as ( - ) i will continue the test with different one , maybe some one can inform a good pin to use to get out from the trade or tell when the reverse is be happen

100 % automatic
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  • #977
  • Dec 14, 2017 8:54am Dec 14, 2017 8:54am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} i was saying refering to the fact on how we can predict a range or anything may come based on past and present candle behaviour.is impossible to predict anything.all we do is trying to guess and market may do or not what we guess.simple.my auto knows very well my MM rule cos is there. example here about the ''black'' side of the market who will ALWAYS be black. {image} {image}
MM is important yes and i am sure anyone will find a way to manage the available funds into the broker's account
My MM changes all the time cos I am moody
where is Jack Btw ?
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  • #978
  • Dec 14, 2017 9:31am Dec 14, 2017 9:31am
Quoting jenbols
{quote} MM is important yes and i am sure anyone will find a way to manage the available funds into the broker's account My MM changes all the time cos I am moody where is Jack Btw ?
Jack is fine ,in the back is drunk.will show up later i guess

Quoting braintheboss
{quote} A range market is always about past. Never about future. Then you can't predict when will happens the breakout but you always will know when you are in a consolidation area. And that exact word its enough for 'predict" the future...
bro i know what you mean and this in regard of the tools you develop.but my point was mostly for newbies to GET IT ,cos yes we DONT know what market will do next step and any clown around here who is claim he know ''market behaviour'' lol just to atract newbies in his losing trades he dont even know at least to read past candles,not to mention anything about future and all this ''market behaviour'' subject.
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  • #979
  • Dec 14, 2017 10:06am Dec 14, 2017 10:06am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} Jack is fine ,in the back is drunk.will show up later i guess {quote} bro i know what you mean and this in regard of the tools you develop.but my point was mostly for newbies to GET IT ,cos yes we DONT know what market will do next step and any clown around here who is claim he know ''market behaviour'' lol just to atract newbies in his losing trades he dont even know at least to read past candles,not to mention anything about future and all this ''market behaviour'' subject.
Really my tools havent relevance in my last comment because im talking about a natural market behavior ( SR ). All tools try adapt one/various market behavior.

But this is a many times repeated topic and I didnt see any thread were coders share tools somebody expose a explanation why their mix failed. The most common "analysis" is ”this only worked from X session to X session". I hope somebody can see its impossible for any coder improve tools if traders with some experience trading cant show coder where is the problem from strategy perspective. As systems this forum have 2 pieces. Coders and traders. Coders accomplish their part but traders is other history...
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  • #980
  • Dec 14, 2017 10:31am Dec 14, 2017 10:31am
Quoting jagzuk
{quote} Here was the last version i made, which addresses the know issues. {file}
Jagz, as always, thank you very much for your work on this PIN.

From the original post in EAX:

Quoting jagzuk
EAX_PIN_TRAILING_STOP is an indicator server PIN for use with the EAX Dashboard. This indicator will trail the average profit of each pair using the selected Trailing Mode. Example: You have 3 buy trades open on EURUSD, and you set a Trail mode of Points and an Offset of 100 (points), using pin 6 to signal the close. The Indicator will calculate the breakeven of the 3 trades and store this value in the Global Variable EURUSDpin6_Buy_BreakEven. Now, when the bid_price exceeds the BreakEven by the specified trail amount (100 points in this...
Looking at the Global Variables generated, I presume it follows the same protocol as the original? I.e. lets say I'm not using the points trail, but the low of the last H1 candle. Let's also assume that the move in the last H1 candle was 55 pips bullish. Am I right in understanding that the bid price will have to move at least 55 pips before the first Buy_StopLoss will register in the GV's? Also, if the pair turns against the trade immediately, I've noticed that the BreakEven doesn't come into play and therefor neither does the trailing stop (because of the above highlighted) and there is then effectively no stop or trailing stop in the GV's. I've also noticed that the pair will close on a slight pull-back because of the BreakEven shortly after a trade is opened.

Jagz, would it be possible to add an option NOT to use the BreakEven, but that the Pin simply registers a Buy_StopLoss or Sell_StopLoss in the GV's from the word get-go based on the Trailing Mode selected. I.e, the preferred trailing mode becomes the immediate stop-loss and is being trailed as the bid price moves, without the BreakEven option.

Please consider.

Thnx.
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