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  • Edited 11:01am Oct 29, 2017 10:15am | Edited 11:01am
  •  jenbols
  • Joined Nov 2016 | Status: Getting there, but not just yet | 2,430 Posts
After having done all those analysis in post 40 which on average takes about
30 mins overall just to get an idea and take notes for the records
it is time to analyze another secret system on the FF- TExp,
after that i will allow the cup of coffee and re-check the set up
to allow Eax taking the non duplicate pairs ... below is a more detailed explanation ///
Will take a break and coffe time and i will be a few hours off forex
which helps the brain to generate better clear mind _
then i will be back with it, before market opens and will be playing the Gaps as usual
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  •  jenbols
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...and of course from Monday i need to try to overcome this issue that the EA wkly monitor
had at the moment_
It works very well with option "Allow Duplicate Pairs"
but it does not work if we set "Allow Duplicate Pairs" /FALSE
So i have found a solution in to do this with EAX

At the moment
-Ea Ccfp wkly Monitor takes only the same currency with same direction that displays on 3 lists_
-It does not take the same currency with same direction that displays in 4 lists _
-and it does not take the same currency with same direction that displays in 2 lists
what this means is ....
If we have "allow duplicate trades to FALSE" and I see 2/3/4 same pair EurGbp i don't want to take all those trades of EurGbp
3, 4 or 5 times, and i want to take only 1 EurGbp
Example if we have a 4 Ccfp-diff lists with these pairs

EurGbp / EurGbp / EurGbp /EurGbp
UdJpy / Usdjpy / Usdjpy / Usdjpy
GbpNzd / GbpNzd /GbpNzd /GbpNzd ,,,,
........ no pairs will be taken

Another Example:
If we have a 3 Lists of Ccfp
EurGbp / EurGbp / EurGbp
UdJpy / Usdjpy / Usdjpy
GbpNzd / GbpNzd /GbpNzd
they will be taken

Another Example:
If we have a 3 Lists of Ccfp
EurGbp / EurGbp
UdJpy / Usdjpy
GbpNzd / GbpNzd
........ no pairs will be taken

Another Example:
if you see on Two Lists of Ccfp-diff
EurGbp / EurUsd
UdJpy / Usdjpy
GbpNzd / GbpNzd
-----only EurGbp + EurUsd will be taken

If this is not clear Plz dont forget what i said before and you can test it for yourself
Place a list of 2 Ccfp for example
W/3/TF AND W/2/FF
set the Ea to Allow duplicate to: False
SEE WHAT PAIRS YOU GET ON LISTS
and notice all the double pairs, and if you see two EURUSD, OR 2 USDCAD Etc.. ,,,, they will not be taken
making in this case the basket meaningless and weak

This was just to explain that unless the Ea will be made more logical no trades are possible
with all conditions chosen by the user.

Solution for this ><
I found 3 solution for this which might work:
1- is using Eax with the "Any Entry" option which by default does no Allow Opposites and Does not Allow Duplicates....
I mean it does allow duplicates only if we choose to do so , and to add the same pair if the previous pair was profitable ..
and this is really cool news
2- Is by using the Fxm and clocking on exclude pairs the "Not" options can you see that ?
3- (Minus one List) Is that whenever there are 4 Lists of ccfp diff no double pairs will be taken cos the Ea does not take pairs
on even list number ... not sure who was the genius who made this sure, but it was not xmess, was someone else_
so the solution will be if you have 4 lists and if you see that almost same pairs are there it would be better to delete one list
and the Ea will take the pairs finely because it works on 3 lists
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  • Oct 30, 2017 2:42am Oct 30, 2017 2:42am
  •  orims
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Hi Jenbols,..
Good to see your thread.

Following closely.

Cheers
 
 
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  •  orims
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After having done all those analysis in post 40 which on average takes about 30 mins overall just to get an idea and take notes for the records it is time to analyze another secret system on the FF- TExp, after that i will allow the cup of coffee and re-check the set up to allow Eax taking the non duplicate pairs ... below is a more detailed explanation /// Will take a break and coffe time and i will be a few hours off forex which helps the brain to generate better clear mind _ then i will be back with it, before market...
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What method is this Jens,..?
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2017 9:12am Oct 30, 2017 9:12am
  •  jenbols
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{quote} What method is this Jens,..?
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HI Orims this is more like a journal thread in response to inquiries about Ccfp, Eax etc ...
Also it is showing how I use Eax, what kind of method, with Ccfp or any other Pin
i might post some days, some good method that i found _ some days
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  • Oct 30, 2017 2:30pm Oct 30, 2017 2:30pm
  •  orims
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{quote} HI Orims this is more like a journal thread in response to inquiries about Ccfp, Eax etc ... Also it is showing how I use Eax, what kind of method, with Ccfp or any other Pin i might post some days, some good method that i found _ some days
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Nice, waiting for that day when you post it buddy..
 
 
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  • Nov 11, 2017 1:10am Nov 11, 2017 1:10am
  •  jaisis21
  • Joined Jan 2017 | Status: MT4 indicator &amp; EA programming | 314 Posts
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We have also a new Toy in town which is the Ccfp-diff Multi PIn from Jaisis https://www.forexfactory.com/jaisis21 and it allows 12 ccfp's to be connected to one Multi-Pin and then one PIn on Eax will be used to Read its signal and display it on the Dashbd On Eax you can easily see the signals placed as they stand side by side and will be easy to see if a TF will have the same color or a TT and vice versa for otehr Tf's and sets too _ {image} {image}
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Hi Jen,

Thank you very much for this share. I am busy with setting up my ecommerce websites. It is almost two months now since I started this online business. I am now in the process of marketing. As soon as my ecommerce websites are stable, I am going back to trade again in forex. I am hoping that you have always a profitable trade. Take care always!
Be patient, stay disciplined! Love FOREX trading.
 
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  • Nov 26, 2017 11:58am Nov 26, 2017 11:58am
  •  pipsy7
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sub'd =
da n0o0b + $hit_Disturber
 
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  • Dec 1, 2017 8:44am Dec 1, 2017 8:44am
  •  rammer13
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Hi Jenbols thank you for this thread and I have to say I really like the EAX dashboard. Cheers !!!
 
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  • Dec 2, 2017 7:26am Dec 2, 2017 7:26am
  •  jenbols
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Hi Jenbols thank you for this thread and I have to say I really like the EAX dashboard. Cheers !!!
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Thank you, I am sorry for not posting guys
I have been so, so busy with other Ea's and Pins but i should post some time next week
to highlights more findings about possibilities of Eax in combinations with other Pins.
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  • Edited 9:39am Jan 21, 2018 9:16am | Edited 9:39am
  •  jenbols
  • Joined Nov 2016 | Status: Getting there, but not just yet | 2,430 Posts
POST_1
3Sets_with Xmess wkly monitor [V38]

Not posted for some times but i had promised to post some sets and of course about the ccfp-diff with Ea xmess on this occasion.

I have been practising with Mt5 and currently learning some more platforms other than the usual mt4, because
i want better charts Tf friendly, just as the one similar to the FF website... so i have been learning a couple
of platforms and got more into Semi-Naked Chart Action, where i don't need to use Ea's or fancy indicators_
Today I feel like sharing these setups, and also I cannot use much these systems on other platforms not to clutter
my Pc's as well_ , until a good soul will convert them of course_

I had previously said that i was not playing anymore ccfp-diff with the Ea due to wrong trades being taken by the EA when i was choosing
certain settings for the Ea and so i began to use them on Eax only and they were successful there too_
However xmess made a new [v38] EA version which for me is the best and acts the way it should when deciding to take
pairs not doubled and not opposites_

Here were some of the posts to clarify how trades and pairs should be taken by the Ea:
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...6#post10609726
Tests made to check if conditions in the Ea where changed, and some messages sent to xmess
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...2#post10561522
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...5#post10560555
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post10385401
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...9#post10382429
Xmess gives us a better and more reliable version the [v38]
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...3#post10609703

Thanx to hard work and custom candles i have had a better understanding of the various Ccfp Time frames
considering of course if the Bar is used or the Current or the Ma's percentages of Ccfp_
There are 3 systems posting today and each uses some type of TF's for ccfp-diff

These 3 setups i have used them on Live after so many changes on Demo and many trials and errors
Are they magic ?,, eh-eh not of course as the market can destroy any perfect Ea and combination
but by understanding a bit the dynamic of markets and the moment of the markets they can profitably being used_
I had placed them initially one by one, set 1 only, or set 3 only .... and then all together on the same platform
(Having all 3 of 'em, it will slow Mt4 down by the way, however reduce bars to 1000 get rid of useless Indis you got in folder
clean up a bit Mt4 and all should be fine)

What i wanted really was to create a system made of Ccfp's and xmess Ea that when brought togetehr would give me an hedge
and even if one of the setups was losing, i wanted the other two making profit so when checking at the end of the day
i would see some equilibrium .. when i talk about Equilibrium i do not mean the consistency that is the difference between
winning and losing trades or the fact that .. 'Well the setups did well this week on Monday-Wed-Fri (30 trades positive) lots 0.01
and last week did well on Wed-Thu (25 trades positive) so overall is going well,,,
and what about the losses ? which even if they are less than the wins in numbers of trades, they could be bigger than the positive ones
if that makes sense_

So i dont mean equilibrium in that sense _ that is the math for the children,,,
understanding the type of market and what Ccfp is reading according to what is really happening is what interests me and i am sure
with time many will realise that too_

These Setups have been used with 3 other Instruments
-The Eax with the [Multiccfp made by jaisis] not too bad, but also losses which turned into win !? (more about this later)
-The Eax with the [MixplugIn made by Sam] much better results_
-The [Xmess wkly Monitor]_ discrete results if looking to place the Ea by watching the market what it did the day before_
These sets, is Not magic of course just a different kind of lottery for those who like it to call it that way
but for those who follow simple rules of understanding should be fine_

I have used these settings with Xmess Ea weekly Monitor on few Betas versions ...
remember the old 37.7.7 ? i was having more profits than losses too with these Sets and tried again with the new versions that Jess made later
the 37.8 (Betas 1-13) same stuff..
the v37.9 (Betas 1-5) same stuff.._
and tried only a couple of Betas for each version only to see that the Ea had still the same behavior so i left Ccfp for couple of months....
...until one day Xjess made my most loved version the [v38] which finally allowed to take pairs the proper way
and without having them doubled in order to use certain set up of the Ea

Next Post i will attach all the necessary for you to get started_
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  • Edited 9:39am Jan 21, 2018 9:24am | Edited 9:39am
  •  jenbols
  • Joined Nov 2016 | Status: Getting there, but not just yet | 2,430 Posts
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3Sets_with Xmess wkly monitor [V38]


Okay here we are __
Pls read attentively follow instructions and all will be working fine 101% about the installation process_
In each of the Folders Posted / 1_Cfp30H1_H42Mtf / 2_4H4Based_1Mtf / 3_2DH4H12Mtf.tpl
there are 6 files

Example for folder (1) 1_Cfp30H1_H42Mtf
-xm7_Ccfp_Wkly_TradeMonitor_v38 (goes in Expert folder)
-EAX_PIN_FF_CCFp-Diff (goes in Pin Folder in Indicator Folder) read more below what this means
-EAX_PIN_FF_Mtf_CCFp-Diff (goes in Pin Folder in Indicator Folder) read more below what this means ...
-Xm_v38_Wkly ( Preset Folder ) this is the set for the Ea only
-1_Cfp30H1_H42Mtf ( Template folder) This is Tpl for the <Ea and the Ccfp's> on the same chart
-1_CfpsOnly_Cfp30H1_H42Mtf (Template folder ) This is an optional tpl for the Ccfp's only (no Ea) in case someone needs _

<<< 2 Notes about putting files in the right folders or the Tpl will not work_ >>
These 2 indis :
-EAX_PIN_FF_CCFp-Diff
-EAX_PIN_FF_Mtf_CCFp-Diff
are the same as the CCFp-Diff_[v2.0] and the CCFp-Diff_[v2.0-MTF],made by Ferrux_ they give exactly the same signal..
it's just that they are Pin version and freely made by Sam and i had used them already_
If you do not want to use them you can still use the CCFp-Diff_[v2.0] / CCFp-Diff_[v2.0-MTF] and you need to copy the sets on them
if not leave everything the way it is and all works ok_

About the Pin Folder
These two Indicators as they are Pin version (which means they have been adapted to work also on Eax Dashboard to read its signal
i keep them into a Pin folder placed into indicator folder_
Therefore you can go to Indicator folder create a New folder and name it [Pin] and throw those two inside the Pin Folder_
If you do this way the Tpl will work, and if you put them by mistake in indicator folder then when you load my Tpl
you will get an error message ... so pls remember they go into Pin Folder that you create inside the Indicator folder_

Apology but i don't have winzip so perhaps someone could convert them from rar to winzip
Any probs let me know ok _
Take care
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  • Jan 21, 2018 9:30am Jan 21, 2018 9:30am
  •  jenbols
  • Joined Nov 2016 | Status: Getting there, but not just yet | 2,430 Posts
POST_3
3Sets_with Xmess wkly monitor [V38]


I didn't use it for couple of months and before posting i did some trials on Friday
to see if all was working nicely,, got these screenshots here ..
just luck or else ? worth a try and pls using the condition i mentioned before
check the market type, do not repeatedly place the Ea and setups just to get greens at all cost
stubbornness can cost money, understanding and get to know the setup how they work comes first _
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  • Jan 21, 2018 9:33am Jan 21, 2018 9:33am
  •  jenbols
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3Sets_with Xmess wkly monitor [V38]


Where else these setups can be used

-With The Eax with the [Multiccfp made by jaisis] not too bad, but also losses which turned into win ? (more about this later)
-With The Eax with the [MixplugIn made by Sam] much better results_
-The [Xmess wkly Monitor]_ discrete results if looking to place the Ea by watching the market what it did the day before_
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  • Jan 21, 2018 9:37am Jan 21, 2018 9:37am
  •  jenbols
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3Sets_with Xmess wkly monitor [V38]


How watching charts and levels where the Market pairs are at, can get
if not better results , at least avoid a big DD
Understanding comes first..
Randomness will always be there but we can avoid it by having the eyes to see _
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  • Jan 21, 2018 10:01am Jan 21, 2018 10:01am
  •  jenbols
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3Sets_with Xmess wkly monitor [V38]

Some more Details for a better understanding, based on what i had experienced _

Following rules of common sense and understanding of the market type can certainly make a better day..

**Simple rules of common sense could be for example if you place the Ea on Mon at 7.15am or 11am whatever makes you feel
comfortable ... and you see so many reds... (on Demo of course) then chances are that when placed on chart again on Tuesday
the situation likely to be the opposite ... and greens will appear .. try and you'll tell me better_

**After Big News for example do not use the daily and H4 and use the hourly-mix only because signals will be read
by the Ea and flipped in case of reversed signal... xmess Ea has that option too, but not the [v38], not yet_

**If your intention is to play them on live, then have them on a demo account too and watch them just like
a Virtual basket to detect early sign or changes_

** Also having answered to tons of messages i realised how people play this setups on demo with one broker and then when they go on live
they use their broker which is different from the demo broker, and that is not so right,, best to use the same broker on demo
which is the same for the live_
If you happen not to want to have the same demo broker the same as the live one, then try to find those smilar ones who have the same feed
by comparing_ For example if the live account is broker X then check the feed and similar signals with Mt4 broker x-w-y .. and compare
so you know that when demoing a system that particular broker will have the same feed as your live broker_

**Also after the Ea has taken all trades based on the signal of your chosen ccfp pairs one should really see pair by pair
what the levels of retracement are and look for possible End swings on the H4 and the D1 charts to get an idea
It should be done before placing the Ea and exclude those pairs that you have a negative feeling with, and it is also
possible doing it by creating a list in the ccfp-diff but dont know how many will have the patience to do so_

** There are quite a few more rules that one can follow to avoid pitfalls and i am sure with time practising
they will be easy identifiable_ The basic is to get a feel for the market situation getting to know your set up
understanding the basic of ccfp candle formation Bar/false/true Ma etc ...

** For those undecided playing it on daily weekly H4.. there is not of course better setting and if playing the weekly the
results might be immediate if one is lucky enough that the market is going the same direction of the signaled ccfp-diff candles
calculations and if not, then weekly player need to wait a bit more_

But can we play this way ? with this kind of Randomness and just hope and hope that all will be fine ? I dont think so !
YOu need to ask yourself one question? How do you feel when placing the Ea on a chart? Do you feel confident
that it is gonna make some profits or do you feel to pray and maybe, just maybe all will go well ..?

<A word on Consistency>
For those who have been long time here and practised hard, and for those who have understood the Real meaning of Consistency
you will know that this word is just an illusion, (if in Auto) simply because a daily or a weekly sets, whetever sets, cannot
give any consistency unless the market and the signal of Ccfp happen to be the same as the previous winning trade and the losing trades
will be less than the winning trades of course_/ The winning Ratio in Auto, is not so friendly_

Consistency when playing in Automatic cannot exists with Ccfp-diff and with any other Ea, unless one is able to control
what is happening in the system by looking at charts,
It is called a Set and Forget System , but one should Remember and Not to Forget
that the Market it is still there with its levels and Supp Res ...

So for example thats how people lose money,, they have a win and they they decide to kinda double the lots on the next occasion
without understanding what type of market it was_
Were all the pairs or almost all pairs signalled by ccfp-diff going
in the same direction of the market ?
and until what point?

ON the day and the time of placing the Ea, Was the market at a major turning point for most pairs
example turning from South to North and N-to-S and the candles of the ccfp-diff
were giving signals of opposite direction ? therefore having a big DD, and making you closing the trades
only to find out that moments after the market turned back again_?

This can happen .. in all my trials i have done, i used other's posted sets and of course my sets that i thought were my best settings
and saw them winning in certain days ,, many wins in a row
and in some weeks i had almost losses every day all reds...
I call this Randomness, unless by consistency one means having Ex: 15 wins - 14 loss = 1 win,, still at profit but not taking into account that next week
there will be more tension when setting again the Ea on the same chart as you never know if even that small profit
(difference of win-losses) will be eaten by more losses_

There is a way to make things better, and it is Vital to understand the ccfp-diff candles on TF's
and i found to better understand them by using Custom Candles MTF
which for example help me better to see what is going of when i play a Daily-TF-Lev2 and a Weekly-TF-Lev2
basically is visually seeing a Daily Candle how it is behaving into the Weekly Candle_
What Ferrux did is amazing, he often said that he was wondering how after 10 years ccfp-diff had so much success
but Ferrux if you see this, i bet your creation will be alive for many years to come_ ;-)

Good luck
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  •  braintheboss
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POST_5 3Sets_with Xmess wkly monitor [V38] How watching charts and levels where the Market pairs are at, can get if not better results , at least avoid a big DD Understanding comes first.. Randomness will always be there but we can avoid it by having the eyes to see _ {image} {image} {image}
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Your last capture can be explained easily. When lagged tools shows swing the current price is almost closer to finish retrace then you will have 2 losses. The buy at swing edge and the sell at pullback edge...
Try don't lose pants never...
 
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  •  jenbols
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{quote} Your last capture can be explained easily. When lagged tools shows swing the current price is almost closer to finish retrace then you will have 2 losses. The buy at swing edge and the sell at pullback edge...
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Indeed so Brain, sharp eye ..
this just a sample
That capture shows how the Ccfp gave me still a lagging signal of Buy
when instead was going down from a major key point_
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POST_4 3Sets_with Xmess wkly monitor [V38] Where else these setups can be used -With The Eax with the [Multiccfp made by jaisis] not too bad, but also losses which turned into win ? (more about this later) -With The Eax with the [MixplugIn made by Sam] much better results_ -The [Xmess wkly Monitor]_ discrete results if looking to place the Ea by watching the market what it did the day before_ {image} {image}
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Where can I download Eax Mixplug?
Thanks
 
 
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