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  • #161
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:24am Nov 28, 2017 9:24am
Quoting goose4
{quote} Since your from the uk have you ever heard of winning dow signals? They have great reviews and amazing results http://winningdowsignals.co.uk/

Ow god I have just found this post by someone who used these signals. Its scary all the reviews were good until I found this.

4 Weeks Ended
29/01/2012 = 99 points loss (WDS = 140 points loss)
26/02/2012 = 320 points loss (WDS = 270 points loss)
25/03/2012 = 71 points profit (WDS = 295 points profit)
22/04/2012 = 196 points profit (WDS = 440 points profit)
20/05/2012 = 312 points loss (WDS = 70 points loss)
YTD = 464 points loss (WDS 255 points profit)
The trend of being unable to match WDS reported results has continued.
Since 20th May, I have lost a further 272 points.
My experience of using these signals since 6th January is as follows:
Losing trades 119 (average 28 points loss)
Winning trades 68 (average 36 points profit)
Win ratio = 36%
Overall result = 736 points loss.
Since I started using the WDS Forex Set & Forget signals my trading bank has fallen by 90% and given that I don’t any confidence in matching their reported results, I have decided to call it day.
I hope my experience will serve as a warning to others that whatever results any service claims to have achieved you should not assume that you can achieve the same, even if you follow their trade instructions to the letter!
  • #162
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:29am Nov 28, 2017 9:29am
Quoting goose4
{quote} Ow god I have just found this post by someone who used these signals. Its scary all the reviews were good until I found this. 4 Weeks Ended 29/01/2012 = 99 points loss (WDS = 140 points loss) 26/02/2012 = 320 points loss (WDS = 270 points loss) 25/03/2012 = 71 points profit (WDS = 295 points profit) 22/04/2012 = 196 points profit (WDS = 440 points profit) 20/05/2012 = 312 points loss (WDS = 70 points loss) YTD = 464 points loss (WDS 255 points profit) The trend of being unable to match WDS reported results has continued. Since 20th May,...
all good reviews are often from beginners or promoters. its scary that people like other lose, but often this are the owners and cheat and fake wins where they can.
signal providers can fake what they want on their website, all reviews, all results .... and then they go to forums and catch people from time to time.

its so simple, there are not really good signal providers or lets you show their live account before you start get cheated by this people. and dont hear to any perosn telling wins with such signal providers, you cant trust anyone because of money, so easy to do, but money forget all basic rules when the get greedy.
  • #163
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:31am Nov 28, 2017 9:31am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} all good reviews are often from beginners or promoters. its scary that people like other lose, but often this are the owners and cheat and fake wins where they can.


Yeah it's like crime. But they get away with it.

I will try the service that was recommended by Big
  • #164
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:32am Nov 28, 2017 9:32am
Quoting goose4
{quote} Yeah it's like crime. But they get away with it. I will try the service that was recommended by Big
will end in same shit, very bad reviews.
but his argument, the good dont write, they dont want that many know good results :-) :-) :-). funny statement. total opposite is true.
  • #165
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:35am Nov 28, 2017 9:35am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} will end in same shit, very bad reviews. but his argument, the good dont write, they dont want that many know good results :-) :-) :-). funny statement. total opposite is true.

Thanks for the advise. I will just demo it


How do you know this ? and signals services are all scams ?
  • #166
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:38am Nov 28, 2017 9:38am
Quoting goose4
{quote} Thanks for the advise. I will just demo it How do you know this ? and signals services are all scams ?
there are bad reviews in forexpeace army by this!

but in general. this are all very bad signal providers. all, if they dont have live account and be with mq5 market and so on, there they would sell many signals when they are good, noone would not do this. think easy about all and think realistic. they cant fake and cheat so easy there, thatswhy they dont do. people would see the results with in and out and see the spread cost (no middel price calculations).... and no website fake results postings.
  • #167
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:40am Nov 28, 2017 9:40am
Quoting goose4
{quote} Ow god I have just found this post by someone who used these signals. Its scary all the reviews were good until I found this
Don't believe any of the reviews, positive or negative.

Try it yourself.

It is probably rubbish...but it might be the way the reviewer executed the signals.

My point is you don't know until you've done your own research.
  • #168
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:41am Nov 28, 2017 9:41am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i told you already in last days, you cant remember?
I can't remember any of your arguments that made sense, no.
  • #169
  • Edited 9:58am Nov 28, 2017 9:47am | Edited 9:58am
Quoting BigOldFella
{quote} Don't believe any of the reviews, positive or negative. Try it yourself. It is probably rubbish...but it might be the way the reviewer executed the signals. My point is you don't know until you've done your own research.
thats the cheaters points, test us. you pay for it, test it. the signal must be extrem bad , when the reviewer has dont it wrong executed. in all reviews you can read how it was executed by the way, so no test neccessary. you simple hope, you get lucky strike some month in your signals and tester will not see true results, and thatswhy you say, test it. if something cant be true (and arguemnts why its not true i did bring you many) it is not true, so simple. your only chnace to get a good signal provider, the signal provider needs to be extrem stupid and dont know how to sell correct, but hoping finding this stupid person who can trade same time, i dont know, you bet to much in this only fact that you can have :-).

thats what smarketing people tell all the time. 50% of all your sentences look like from promotion of the owneers or a affiliate, its not so easy to trust you.

bad reviews are so not to trust? good reviews are not there :-). sorry but you dont know what you speak about, its same like this topic of the thread,looks like you only looking for marketing the signals and dont want come in commercial section. really, all your arguments are wrong, not one was correct. present only one!
  • #170
  • Nov 28, 2017 9:49am Nov 28, 2017 9:49am
Quoting BigOldFella
{quote} I can't remember any of your arguments that made sense, no.
thats the problem with you.

you dont have arguments.

all arguments i say , that are very objective, you cant understand. thats crazy.

you bring arguments, i show you how wrong they are, bring you correct arguments, and all you can say " i cant remember ". sorry , so its useless to talk to you, then go back and reread your wrong arguments and how you was corrected.

you really sound now like 100% owner or affiliate of this signal providers and cheat/fake at maximum.
  • #171
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:04am Nov 28, 2017 10:04am
Dukas ...


Have you found ANY signal service to be good ?

It seems you have had experience in this field. with reviews of Peacearmy
  • #172
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:04am Nov 28, 2017 10:04am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} thats the problem with you. you dont have arguments. all arguments i say , that are very objective, you cant understand. thats crazy. you bring arguments, i show you how wrong they are, bring you correct arguments, and all you can say " i cant remember ". sorry , so its useless to talk to you, then go back and reread your wrong arguments and how you was corrected. you really sound now like 100% owner or affiliate of this signal providers and cheat/fake at maximum.
It's like talking to a 9 year old.

No, it's worse than a 9 year old, it's like arguing with someone that believes in god - "it's true because I said so".
  • #173
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:12am Nov 28, 2017 10:12am
Quoting goose4
Dukas ... Have you found ANY signal service to be good ? It seems you have had experience in this field. with reviews of Peacearmy
I don't think he has...that's the problem.

He's just assuming that all signal providers are the same without any evidence other than reviews on the internet.

I prefer a more scientific approach. I've subscribed to about 15 paid for signal services.

Most are unprofitable at best and scams at worst.

But there are some that are profitable.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I've got 2 years verified performance. Something Dukas keeps ignoring.
  • #174
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:13am Nov 28, 2017 10:13am
Quoting BigOldFella
{quote} It's like talking to a 9 year old. No, it's worse than a 9 year old, it's like arguing with someone that believes in god - "it's true because I said so".
i bring aruments, you always speak like affiliate, who are catched by being a liar and faker.
sorry, but you switch now to 100% as faker and now start writing without any content because you lost any argument and cant broing any new.

you fight a battle you cant win, you are on the cheater site, anything you say will be completly detroyed if you dont have any argument, you cant see this or?

at least try to fake less and bring little arguments.
  • #175
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:18am Nov 28, 2017 10:18am
Quoting goose4
Dukas ... Have you found ANY signal service to be good ? It seems you have had experience in this field. with reviews of Peacearmy
there are no good, or they switched to manage accounts or fund. such easy!
always let you show real account of this signal providers, always. when they dont have or only demo or only with scam broker or own whitelabel broker, then take them as 100% cheater/scammer.
look that this signal provider are inside mq5 market, if not it shows easy they dont know their business or are fakers, always.
dont let you cheat by unhonest people like bIgOldFella,....

peace army reviews for brokers and some services are quit good, because many use this site. but also some fake reviews from bokers and services there ofcourse, positive reviews are most of the times fakes if done in short time many reviews,...... but thats own topic.... and not only problem with trading, same in amazon....and all review websites, that positive are often not all correct.
  • #176
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:18am Nov 28, 2017 10:18am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i bring aruments, you always speak like affiliate, who are catched by being a liar and faker. sorry, but you switch now to 100% as faker and now start writing without any content because you lost any argument and cant broing any new. you fight a battle you cant win, you are on the cheater site, anything you say will be completly detroyed if you dont have any argument, you cant see this or? at least try to fake less and bring little arguments.
Yet another argument that doesn't make sense.

Let's try and make it really easy. 3 simple questions: -

1. Surely if I was an affiliate I would have to mention the signal provider's name?

2. Have I mentioned the name of the signal provider I'm using?

3. Do you see where I'm going with this?
  • #177
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:22am Nov 28, 2017 10:22am
Quoting BigOldFella
{quote} Yet another argument that doesn't make sense. Let's try and make it really easy. 3 simple questions: - 1. Surely if I was an affiliate I would have to mention the signal provider's name? 2. Have I mentioned the name of the signal provider I'm using? 3. Do you see where I'm going with this?
oh man, you are not very smart or try to look not to smart.

i did say you make passive marketing, so you dont come to commercial section, many do exactly your style.
you write all things, mention some signal providers (by the way one of this is big scam, the other useless too), then you write information in the kind: i got rich because of the signal providers, all i have is because of this, i will get so big i need to go over broker limit for trading amount,..... all that people think, you are with big money and get many wins.
and then you hope many will write you pm and you can cheat them by bringing to signal services. thats passive marketing.

i really need to describe you all things in details, its so useless with you, you know nothing, you cheat all, you try to hide youself behind a beginner mimage and not affiliate to signal services..... crazy.

start learning reading, all i write here i told you with the name "passive marketing" already!

all you write here, your style, your content, your total unexperience.... all looks like you are a big fake and want only cheat and scam some people.
  • #178
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:40am Nov 28, 2017 10:40am
Quoting BigOldFella
I expected the naysayers ... you haven't got that much in your account ... signal providers don't work ... if they were any good they'd be trading not selling signals ... should only be risking 2% of your account. But doubting that the signals come in via email and that I should be checking my code every day is just bizarre. I'm not sure where this maximum risk of 2% comes from but if you've got an edge and you can quantify it from historical trades why stick at 2%. If I'd use 2% per trad I'd be up about £21k. And then to top it all, dukas_trader...
Just another typical day at the forex factory forums ;-)
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  • #179
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:41am Nov 28, 2017 10:41am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} oh man, you are not very smart or try to look not to smart. i did say you make passive marketing, so you dont come to commercial section, many do exactly your style. you write all things, mention some signal providers (by the way one of this is big scam, the other useless too), then you write information in the kind: i got rich because of the signal providers, all i have is because of this, i will get so big i need to go over broker limit for trading amount,..... all that people think, you are with big money and get many wins. and then you...
I can appear to be not very smart without even trying.

It doesn't matter what arguments I mention, you either ignore them, say you've already answered them or call me a fake or a cheater.

It's impossible to win an argument if the other person doesn't respond to the first person's points of view.
  • #180
  • Nov 28, 2017 10:42am Nov 28, 2017 10:42am
Quoting newbegger
{quote} Just another typical day at the forex factory forums ;-)
I might take up idiot bating on FF as a hobby.
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